Our place pays £20 for a night out and a fiver a day meal allowance
,which we get at the start of the week as afloat .
Nights out if we are loaded with something valuble then it has to be a secure place and the money is in the float to cover it, other wise its industrial estates and the like if I’m up in scotland in wilds then its a laybys as theres sod all else
This is my original post… I can’t see how you get where I pay for the parking!
My gaffer expects us to park at truckstops and will pay £10.00 towards the cost of parking.
If the load is of a particularly high value and a MSA is the only option he’ll pay for that - providing you notify him first.
Present firm i work for its a big fat NO!! Over the last 2 yrs i’ve had permission and been reimbursed twice. Once was a changeover at Heston and the other i refused to make headway that afternoon for a silly O’clock the next day unless he paid up.
A week next monday i start with a new firm and guess what NO Parking paid there either but thats fine by me if they want a hole punched in there fuel tanks thats their lookout as for curtain slashing in 7 yrs ive never had one done yet and i cant see that being a problem with this new firm either as they run fridges 
But if you want to help me lobby my boss to allow me the privalidge of parking up in the ■■■■ stenched, thief magnet, foreign haven that we call MSA’s then lets do it, just dont moan when my fridge fires up all through the night 
my lot insist we park at msa, (great) due too theft of load/diesel, etc.
we have a list of a few independents we can use too.
its all on account, which is good, and then we get 23 quid on top, night out money.
pulltopark:
This is my original post… I can’t see how you get where I pay for the parking!
Really? The bit below…
My gaffer expects us to park at truckstops and will pay £10.00 towards the cost of parking.
… and now above says he will pay £10 towards the cost of parking. Now to me that says he will pay a maximum of £10, leaving it up to the driver to pay the difference in circumstances where a high value load isn’t involved. I think most English speakerss would agree that saying someone will pay a sum toward the cost doesn’t mean they are paying the total cost. Anyway we have established, finally, that you do not pay to park the company vehicle but there are many drivers who do pay out of their pocket for this ‘pleasure’.
pulltopark:
animal:
pulltopark:
Am I for real? Are you for real? Have you ever worked in transport? Have you ever spent nights away from home?amazon.com/Coffee-Go-Neil-Ho … 133&sr=1-6
Maybe a look at that then he may question Coffeeholic
And…? Obviously, cynicism (sin-e-siz-em) is lost on you…! Coffeeholic has, for whatever reason, a problem with someone paying for parking, out of their own pocket, despite the expense being reimbursed later that week. It is a standard practice throughout the industry and I have come across it at several firms I have worked for. I fail to see what his problem is.
I failed to add that I carry a float and I presume Coffeholic has remained silent as it falls in with his line of reasoning. Nevertheless, I’m sure Coffeeholic is big enough and ugly enough
Furthermore, using your reasoning, I can bypass 2-3 years of business school if I purchase this book and add the letters MBA to my name? I don’t think so…!
As Coffeeholic wrote this book on his own experience you have been a member of this forum for 5 min sorry but I dont know you or your experience maybe you should read some of coffeehoilic post first
In your first post it seemed that you are willing to pay for your parkin over £10 not bothered if you have a float from company or not or if claimed back at end of week / month sorry if I misunderstood you if this is correct then more fool you
Coffeeholic:
Now to me that says he will pay a maximum of £10, leaving it up to the driver to pay the difference in circumstances where a high value load isn’t involved.
This is how it is… He will only pay a maximum of £10.00, leaving it up to the driver to pay the difference. As a businessman I’m sure you’re aware of the need to reduce costs to the business, particularly variable costs. The company employs approximately 100 drivers from 7.5t to LGV C+E.
Using an extreme example:
100 drivers nighting out at Clackett Lane - 100 x £27.00 = £2700;
or, 100 drivers paying the maximum £10.00 - 100 x £10.00 = £1000.
The company has to draw the line at how much a driver pays for parking, it can’t have several drivers deciding they’re going to spend their nights out in expensive MSAs every night. It is therefore up to the driver’s discretion to find somewhere suitable within the maximum £10.00. It’s a fair and just system that makes sound business sense particularly in the current economic climate!
animal:
As Coffeeholic wrote this book on his own experience you have been a member of this forum for 5 min sorry but I dont know you or your experience maybe you should read some of coffeehoilic post firstIn your first post it seemed that you are willing to pay for your parkin over £10 not bothered if you have a float from company or not or if claimed back at end of week / month sorry if I misunderstood you if this is correct then more fool you
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Personal attack removed. L.
How the hell am I supposed to argu… I mean debate with you
You’re not, we’re all bored by your ‘know it all’ ways. 
Just let some of the new ones to the board have a chance to put an opinion forward without trying to belittle them for once. 
No wonder they never bother coming back again
Pat
I have been working for my boss for over 9 years. He hasn’t paid parking since I’ve been there.
I have had my curtains slashed and once had goods stolen out of the trailer while parked on an industrial estate. He still won’t pay!!!
I mainly park on industrial estates but most of the time it is anywhere I can. Alot of my friends say they admire me for bedding down where I do.
I park in services and truck stops when I want to or when I need to.
It does anger me sometimes because I have to pull up short or pay out of my own pocket.
There is no use crying over spilt milk. IF HE WON’T PAY HE WON’T PAY, SIMPLE AS THAT!!
I have just learned to deal with it.
pulltopark:
Coffeeholic:
Now to me that says he will pay a maximum of £10, leaving it up to the driver to pay the difference in circumstances where a high value load isn’t involved.This is how it is… He will only pay a maximum of £10.00, leaving it up to the driver to pay the difference.
So it changes again and is back to how most of us first read it
pulltopark:
As a businessman I’m sure you’re aware of the need to reduce costs to the business, particularly variable costs. The company employs approximately 100 drivers from 7.5t to LGV C+E.
All too aware, but I wouldn’t expect those 100 plus drivers to reduce my costs by paying part of my business expenses from their own pocket. That is not, and can never be right. If all those 100 drivers are happy to assist with the company’s costs from their own pocket the company must be laughing all the way to the bank.
pulltopark:
The company has to draw the line at how much a driver pays for parking
No, the company can express a preference for where drivers park but in the event a driver parks in an MSA for whatever reason then the company have to pay that charge, all of that charge and not just part of it while expecting the driver to pay the rest from his own pocket.
pulltopark:
it can’t have several drivers deciding they’re going to spend their nights out in expensive MSAs every night. It is therefore up to the driver’s discretion to find somewhere suitable within the maximum £10.00. It’s a fair and just system that makes sound business sense particularly in the current economic climate!
Don’t think you will find any economist will argue against the fact that getting your staff to pay part of your expenses, without giving them a share of the profits in return, makes stunningly good business sense in any economic climate.
bloodoodle:
How the hell am I supposed to argu… I mean debate with you
You’re not, we’re all bored by your ‘know it all’ ways.
Just let some of the new ones to the board have a chance to put an opinion forward without trying to belittle them for once.
So you are not supposed to debate or question someone’s point of view because they are new? When did that rule come in?
Coffeeholic? Do you regularly practice being stupid or does it just come naturally?
I can’t be bothered with this anymore, no wonder the public have a very poor view of lorry drivers…
pulltopark:
Coffeeholic? Do you regularly practice being stupid or does it just come naturally?
Oh, I practice. But then again I’m not the one who at any time would pay to park my employers truck from my own pocket. People in glass houses and all that. 
I pay to park,
A) If it’s a theft sensitive load
B) If i’m unsure of the area
C)If it suits ME!
Although i think the likes of MSA’s are crooks, given the choice of £22 to park or £200 worth of fuel i’ll pay the £22. I have my little stops in certain areas, stops that i know are reasonably safe.
When i employed a driver i told him under no circumstances was he to park in laybys, pay if you have too. He still took the layby option?
Debate is intelligent, bullying isn’t
Pat
i wont park at the side of the road unless i really have too, i always try to park in an MSA, truckstop or at our cannock yard and they pay for ANY parking charges plus you get £20 night out money.
The guys in our office dont like you parking in laybys or on industrial estates if you are loaded.
Cost me 10 Euros to park up the other night.
After having a hot shower in an impeccably clean wash room, I repaired to the restaurant for a slap up feed and a couple of beers, served by a smiling local beauty.
I then presented my parking ticket and 10 Euros was deducted from my bill.
And not a diesel thieving ■■■■■, curtain slasher or clamper in sight.
Just yer average German Autohof. Light years ahead of the UK.
We get all parking paid. I find it usually averages around a tenner, not twenty quid.
We can get a float if we want upto £200, If not you just pay out and get it in next weeks wages.
No limit on how much parking costs so long as we get a valid ticket, MSA’S or truckstops.
If anything happens to truck or load then its no probs if wev’e got a ticket,
Insurance wont pay out without one.
Pay for parking and get your meal thrown in. 