Does the examiner know how many times you have sat the test previously before you go out on the road?. I’ve my fifth test next Wednesday and was just wondering if they knew.
As for consistencies with examiners I’ve had three different ones and the one I had twice nearly passed me last time I had him (1 serious 5 minors). The miserable git I had the last time gave me 3 serious and 12 minors and my drive was a 100 times better than my near pass.
Does the examiner know how many times you have sat the test previously before you go out on the road?.
Generally - NO
But if you had the same examiner for the other tests then it is possible
Yup, thats a point I’m getting to know them all on first name terms! lol 
allanwhyte77:
Does the examiner know how many times you have sat the test previously before you go out on the road?
I wouldn’t have thought so,as they may have better things to do than talk about individual candidates. Or if so,I suspect Examiners would only mark you on what you are doing on the day.
I had the same Examiner,he marked me with different minors on my retest,as appose to the 1st test.
allanwhyte77:
I’ve my fifth test
wow! I bet that’s costing a bit
Yup a fortune! over £2100 so far for class 2 but I’ve invested to much to give up now.
allanwhyte77:
Yup a fortune! over £2100 so far for class 2 but I’ve invested to much to give up now.
I had one trainee who came from another training company to where I was working and he had already spent £2,500 on trying to get C 
allanwhyte77:
Yup a fortune! over £2100 so far for class 2 but I’ve invested to much to give up now.
True. I take it that you are training from a Category B licence? When I trained from my Cat B licence to Cat D,I did find it a struggle to take in so much information when having to concentrate alot.
K27:
allanwhyte77:
Yup a fortune! over £2100 so far for class 2 but I’ve invested to much to give up now.True. I take it that you are training from a Category B licence? When I trained from my Cat B licence to Cat D,I did find it a struggle to take in so much information when having to concentrate alot.
This is why a lot of instructors recommend 2 to 1 all day training 
ROG:
K27:
allanwhyte77:
Yup a fortune! over £2100 so far for class 2 but I’ve invested to much to give up now.True. I take it that you are training from a Category B licence? When I trained from my Cat B licence to Cat D,I did find it a struggle to take in so much information when having to concentrate alot.
This is why a lot of instructors recommend 2 to 1 all day training
I see. Well,when one comes from an experienced driving status,what I call Cat B licence holders,to a professional licence holder ie D ( a matter of opnion 
) driving for long periods becomes 2nd nature,still nackering though.
‘Driving whilst learning’ is totally different to just ‘driving’ as many have found out
It’s been a twenty year gap between being in learning mode driving a car to learning mode driving trucks. A lot of the mistakes I’ve made have been procedure, I can handle the truck ok I’ve just had problems with other things. Silly things line lane discipline and judgement down to nerves.
allanwhyte77:
Does the examiner know how many times you have sat the test previously before you go out on the road?. I’ve my fifth test next Wednesday and was just wondering if they knew.
As for consistencies with examiners I’ve had three different ones and the one I had twice nearly passed me last time I had him (1 serious 5 minors). The miserable git I had the last time gave me 3 serious and 12 minors and my drive was a 100 times better than my near pass.
The only time an examiner will know how many goes you have had at a particular test is for ADI Part II tests, where you are only allowed a maximum of 3 attempts to pass the test. Only in these circumstances will the driving examiner’s paperwork inform them what ‘attempt’ this is.
Do the LGV Register tests carry a 3 test maximum limit as well as ADI Part II?
Richard
The Lyonator asked:-
Do the LGV Register tests carry a 3 test maximum limit as well as ADI Part II?
Yes you are only permitted 3 attempts at each of the qualifying tests, If you do not pass within the 1 year period you have to wait until the expiry of that period before you can apply to re-start the qualification process, starting with the theory test.
Good luck for your test really hope you do it this time.
GOOD LUCK FOR THE NEXT TEST allanwhyte77
You’ll do it this time around!
I am in the same boat as you,20 odd years since I learnt to drive a car and now facing my third retest for class C
I have had three tests and have spent only 23 hours behind the wheel,oh and 4 different instructors from the same school but thankfully I think I have found one who can actually adapt himself to the pupil rather than some of these ex army types who are like a stuck record,“Mirror,mirror , mirror”.
Where I have wasted my money is after 15 hours training,3 long days I took a test and needless to say I failed and this is where I begin to feel aggrieved by my driving school because I don’t believe that 1 weeks concentrated training followed by a test on the last day is the right thing to do.After all everyone is different and we all learn in different ways.When I had done the training my instructor ought to have assessed me as to whether I was ready for test or not and in my case advised more tuition rather than sticking to a time table.Of course there are some gifted drivers out there who will pass first time but I bet that a greater proportion are put to test far too early and that money spent on a test to early is money wasted and better spent on more training.
To make matters worse they quite happily let me book 2 retests which I failed.
It’s not all doom and gloom though because now I have got an instructor who shows a bit of interest and has come up with a strategy which makes sense to me which is I have a 2 hour lesson and see if I have improved and if I haven’t I have another lesson and another until I am good enough.So from my experience I would say do not take your test until you are ready,it might cost more in the short term,but lots of retests are expensive and damage confidence.
I think these driving schools know full well that you are making an investment here and that you are unlikely to walk away wasting all your money,it’s hardly in their interest to have you pass first time is it ?
xrayday:
I am in the same boat as you,20 odd years since I learnt to drive a car and now facing my third retest for class C
Did you opt for 2 to 1 all day training 
xrayday:
I have had three tests and have spent only 23 hours behind the wheel,oh and 4 different instructors from the same school but thankfully I think I have found one who can actually adapt himself to the pupil rather than some of these ex army types who are like a stuck record,“Mirror,mirror , mirror”.
Only one instructor out of 4 who was prepared to adapt to you - not good at all.
xrayday:
Where I have wasted my money is after 15 hours training,3 long days I took a test and needless to say I failed and this is where I begin to feel aggrieved by my driving school because I don’t believe that 1 weeks concentrated training followed by a test on the last day is the right thing to do.After all everyone is different and we all learn in different ways.
Unforunately, most schools plan the courses this way BUT it can be done differently. There was one member on here who, quite recently, did one lesson a week but had to ‘fit in’ when the school had a slot.
The test was only booked when he was ready.
xrayday:
When I had done the training my instructor ought to have assessed me as to whether I was ready for test or not and in my case advised more tuition rather than sticking to a time table.Of course there are some gifted drivers out there who will pass first time but I bet that a greater proportion are put to test far too early and that money spent on a test to early is money wasted and better spent on more training.
The test is booked and named usually on the first day of a one week course and cannot be cancelled with a refund unless it is done at least 3 clear days prior to the test - DSA rules
xrayday:
To make matters worse they quite happily let me book 2 retests which I failed.
Seems like they did not assess you very well.
xrayday:
It’s not all doom and gloom though because now I have got an instructor who shows a bit of interest and has come up with a strategy which makes sense to me which is I have a 2 hour lesson and see if I have improved and if I haven’t I have another lesson and another until I am good enough.
Now starting to sound like the above trainee I mentioned.
xrayday:
So from my experience I would say do not take your test until you are ready,it might cost more in the short term,but lots of retests are expensive and damage confidence.
I would like to see more schools offer this option - it is more like when you did the B (car) training & test
xrayday:
I think these driving schools know full well that you are making an investment here and that you are unlikely to walk away wasting all your money,it’s hardly in their interest to have you pass first time is it ?
There may be some around who have that view especially now that times are hard but IMO, it would not be the view of most instructors who like to see a trainee pass first time - those with a passion for the job get real satisfaction from seeing that and feel disapointed if the trainee does not pass.
(but we try not to let it show too much as the trainee is already on a ‘downer’)
hi xrayday sorry to hear of your troubles with the training company,but its good news that you found a instructor you have connected with.i did my training with gatewen in wrexham recently and managed to build a good rapour with the instructor.i was lucky and managed to pass c,and c+e and adr first time within the last 5 weeks.im not bragging however i did my research on all the training companys localy to me,these had a good pass rate and a good reputation and when i went down there to visit them they were very proffesionall compared to others in the area,with regards to your quote “it’s hardly in their interest to have you pass first time is it ?” i would tend to disagree, there pass rate and reputation should mean every thing to them.i wish you good luck with your next test,you ve put alot of effort in and deserve that pass.
One worrying point I would make is .
Why have 3 or 4 different trainers for the same student?
This seems like bad practice. Would it not be better to stay with one trainer therefore building a relationship with the trainer, who knowing your strengths and can tailor training to the students needs.
It may be okay for a different trainer to take a mock test, but swapping from one trainer to another doesn’t make sense.
Perhaps Rog could tell us why this sort of practice happens? 
There is no use shouting about mirrors. What needs sorting is why we need to use them and when, then with coaching rather than telling the outcome may be achieved. What LGV trainers may fail to understand is that their customers can drive already, so telling is not the way, asking is much better.
Having spent many years involved in the fleet sector coaching experienced drivers, telling drivers will not build a good spring board for further development.
The army types as in the ex plod class 1 drivers tend to go overboard with the average company driver, leading to some dangerous practices amonst car drivers who suddenly think they are advanced drivers after 3 hours coaching.
I spent more money on extra training after my third fail thinking the extra training would be money well spent. I’m not planning on spending anymore on lessons.
I think it’s now down to luck on the day, not letting anxiety get the better of me, a test route that’s at least partly familiar, I don’t come across too many idiots on the road and the examiner hasn’t met his quota of passes for the month.