Does the examiner know how many times you've sat the test?

chippy:
One worrying point I would make is .

Why have 3 or 4 different trainers for the same student?

This seems like bad practice. Would it not be better to stay with one trainer therefore building a relationship with the trainer, who knowing your strengths and can tailor training to the students needs.

It may be okay for a different trainer to take a mock test, but swapping from one trainer to another doesn’t make sense.

Perhaps Rog could tell us why this sort of practice happens? :wink:

You are correct, it is not a good thing to happen.
There could be a number of reasons.
Sickness
Trainee asking for a different one
Personality conflicts
Instructor not capable of being flexible enough to cater for the trainee

chippy:
There is no use shouting about mirrors. What needs sorting is why we need to use them and when, then with coaching rather than telling the outcome may be achieved. What LGV trainers may fail to understand is that their customers can drive already, so telling is not the way, asking is much better.

Having spent many years involved in the fleet sector coaching experienced drivers, telling drivers will not build a good spring board for further development.
The army types as in the ex plod class 1 drivers tend to go overboard with the average company driver, leading to some dangerous practices amonst car drivers who suddenly think they are advanced drivers after 3 hours coaching.

Clearly given Information and positive encouragement are certainly a better way to do it, along with praise for doing it well and discussion when not doing it quite so well.

Thanks Rog.

Another point I would raise,going back to all day training.

Would it be the case that the trainer is , infact doing the students no favours by trying to teach/coach for 7 or 8 or more hours a day.

After so long the trainer is bound to be tired and instruction/ coaching would suffer.

I know he/she has to get out and watch reversing etc, but it’s still training.

As I know ,training drivers can be a difficult and frustrating task.

chippy:
Thanks Rog.

Another point I would raise,going back to all day training.

Would it be the case that the trainer is , infact doing the students no favours by trying to teach/coach for 7 or 8 or more hours a day.

After so long the trainer is bound to be tired and instruction/ coaching would suffer.

I know he/she has to get out and watch reversing etc, but it’s still training.

As I know ,training drivers can be a difficult and frustrating task.

I’ve never had a problem with it.

A lot do 2 X half days with different trainees or all day with 2 trainees.

When swapping the trainees over on 2 to 1 there is usually a little out of cab relaxed discussion time which allows for a leg stretch and a smoke, pee etc.

I do prefer 2 to 1 as it allows for the trainees to learn from each other even if they are at different standards and they can have a discussion between themselves at lunchtime etc where they can gang up on the instructor and pull him to bits :unamused: :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
It tends to make for a much more relaxed and pleasant training day IMO.

I would agree to your planned out training day.

Pretty much the schedule on a company car driving session.7 to 8 hours if that, and the clients buy me lunch on their business account. :wink:

I suppose the major difference being, I don’t have to train them for a test.

chippy:
I suppose the major difference being, I don’t have to train them for a test.

Same for me on the Advanced - There is a test if they wish to take it but my remit is to improve their driving and introduce them to a different system of driving and if they reach test ‘standard’ (most do) then I recommend they take the test.

allanwhyte77:
I spent more money on extra training after my third fail thinking the extra training would be money well spent. I’m not planning on spending anymore on lessons.
I think it’s now down to luck on the day, not letting anxiety get the better of me, a test route that’s at least partly familiar, I don’t come across too many idiots on the road and the examiner hasn’t met his quota of passes for the month.

they don’t have a quota. he would rather you pass
if you pass he fills in your pass certificate and gives you your copy, job done.
if you fail he has to go back and fill in a load of forms on why you failed.
his job is a lot easier if you pass

This is how I did mine not the same instructor although they do try

trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. … t+foa+lucy

I did have an assessment before I booked the course but due to other reasons I didnt have all my lessons in the same week if you read the date this worked for me

They may know what you failed on last time but that is all

Good luck with it

animal:
They may know what you failed on last time but that is all

Good luck with it

Only if they were the actual examiner who tested you before - they do not have any paperwork available in which to refer to any past tests taken.

Each test is judged on it’s own merits.

ROG:

animal:
They may

Only if they were the actual examiner who tested you before - they do not have any paperwork available in which to refer to any past tests taken.

Each test is judged on it’s own merits.

THEY MAY might be in the clue ROG :unamused: :unamused:

So each drive should be judged on its own merits

animal:

ROG:

animal:
They may

Only if they were the actual examiner who tested you before - they do not have any paperwork available in which to refer to any past tests taken.

Each test is judged on it’s own merits.

THEY MAY might be in the clue ROG :unamused: :unamused:

So each drive should be judged on its own merits

Spotted that - just expanded on it a bit :wink: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

YES, each drive should be judged on its own merits - that is the examiners remit.