Does ADR qualify for driver CPC??????????

I let my ADR lapse last year. Just thought id enquire if i was to take the full ADR course again (paid by myself as im self employed) will all the training quaify for the driver CPC as last time I took the course at trident training in Wakefield it was for 5 full days (each day over 7 hours) which would be handy as that would meet the requirements of CPC at least timewise.
If it does qualify does any one know the earliest time I can take it so it counts towards my training time, as currently I believe I have up to Sept 2014 to do the training. i.e if i do a course in Dec 2009 will I then have up to Sept 2019 to take it again■■?
I would then also have another qualification instead of just a driver CPC I would have a ADR as well. Does anyne have any ideas.
If this does quaify would then want an idea of the best training company close to Rochdale to take it■■?.
A lot of questions I know but help would be appreciated as I want to be proactive in getting it done rather than leaving it to the last minute, thanks in advance!!!

Dangerous Goods Training Approved for Driver CPC

If this does quaify would then want an idea of the best training company close to Rochdale to take it■■?.

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The above is a duplicate post and answered - HERE

ROG has answered the ADR stuff. But just to clear up the date questions, you cannot do anything towards driver cpc before 10th Sept this year. Once 35hrs are completed you will receive your Driver Qualification Card which will be valid until Sept 2019. But you need to need to complete a further 35hrs during the period Sept 2014 - Sept 2019 which will then cover you till 2024. Glad to hear you’re being proactive rather than leaving it all to the last minute.

I found this on one of the identical posts -

Peter Smythe:
ROG has answered the ADR stuff. But just to clear up the date questions, you cannot do anything towards driver cpc before 10th Sept this year. Once 35hrs are completed you will receive your Driver Qualification Card which will be valid until Sept 2019. But you need to need to complete a further 35hrs during the period Sept 2014 - Sept 2019 which will then cover you till 2024. Glad to hear you’re being proactive rather than leaving it all to the last minute.

ROG:
I found this on one of the identical posts -

Peter Smythe:
ROG has answered the ADR stuff. But just to clear up the date questions, you cannot do anything towards driver cpc before 10th Sept this year. Once 35hrs are completed you will receive your Driver Qualification Card which will be valid until Sept 2019. But you need to need to complete a further 35hrs during the period Sept 2014 - Sept 2019 which will then cover you till 2024. Glad to hear you’re being proactive rather than leaving it all to the last minute.

Interesting, as you may know I hold my Class 2 as well as my PSV licence (my main job) and I have my PSV CPC on Friday (if it hasnt been cancelled because Im the only one on it so far :laughing: ), so would that mean I have to do another HGV CPC in September… :wink:
Another question - if I applied for a HGV driving job and Ive done my PSV CPC and I got an interview, would having done 7 hours towards the CPC would that make me more attractive as an employee?

I’m a bit confused – it don’t take much after a hard day! If you already hold LGV and PCV then you can do periodic driver cpc training NOW as the rules came in for PCV last September. The CPC you mention for Friday is, I presume, the “manager’s” cpc. There is no connection between that and the driver cpc. As a holder of both LGV and PCV you still only complete 35hrs. This can be all on LGV or all on PCV or a mix of both. If, for instance, you completed 35hrs of PCV driver cpc next week, you would then be covered for LGV and PCV until Sept 2019.
There is no doubt that completion of some or all of the driver cpc will be taken into consideration at a job interview (all other things being equal).
Good luck with the interview and the CPC.

Peter Smythe:
I’m a bit confused – it don’t take much after a hard day! If you already hold LGV and PCV then you can do periodic driver cpc training NOW as the rules came in for PCV last September. The CPC you mention for Friday is, I presume, the “manager’s” cpc. There is no connection between that and the driver cpc. As a holder of both LGV and PCV you still only complete 35hrs. This can be all on LGV or all on PCV or a mix of both. If, for instance, you completed 35hrs of PCV driver cpc next week, you would then be covered for LGV and PCV until Sept 2019.
There is no doubt that completion of some or all of the driver cpc will be taken into consideration at a job interview (all other things being equal).
Good luck with the interview and the CPC.

He’d be covered until 2013 as the five year period from 08 will expire in 2013 for a pcv cpc holder, even though it can be transferred to lgv.

Peter Smythe:
This can be all on LGV or all on PCV or a mix of both. If, for instance, you completed 35hrs of PCV driver cpc next week, you would then be covered for LGV and PCV until Sept 2019.

2018 - the PCV started Sept 2008 and the 5 year date on the DQC would be Sept 10 2018 and yes, it will cover BOTH PCV & LGV to that date.

Peter Smythe:
The CPC you mention for Friday is, I presume, the “manager’s” cpc. There is no connection between that and the driver cpc. As a holder of both LGV and PCV you still only complete 35hrs.

Friday is the drivers CPC…

Beg to differ. Not that it’s that important, but it’s 100% 2019 if he does driver cpc this year.

Westy:
I let my ADR lapse last year. Just thought id enquire if i was to take the full ADR course again (paid by myself as im self employed) will all the training quaify for the driver CPC

No. Its a totally seperate thing altogether.

Westy:
I let my ADR lapse last year. Just thought id enquire if i was to take the full ADR course again (paid by myself as im self employed) will all the training quaify for the driver CPC as last time I took the course at trident training in Wakefield it was for 5 full days (each day over 7 hours) which would be handy as that would meet the requirements of CPC at least timewise.
If it does qualify does any one know the earliest time I can take it so it counts towards my training time, as currently I believe I have up to Sept 2014 to do the training. i.e if i do a course in Dec 2009 will I then have up to Sept 2019 to take it again■■?
I would then also have another qualification instead of just a driver CPC I would have a ADR as well. Does anyne have any ideas.
If this does quaify would then want an idea of the best training company close to Rochdale to take it■■?.
A lot of questions I know but help would be appreciated as I want to be proactive in getting it done rather than leaving it to the last minute, thanks in advance!!!

Hi mate ADR as been approved for the driver cpc but only 21 hours of it and can only be done at an approved centre

ADR training can now be approved as Periodic Training

DSA are pleased to announce that elements of dangerous goods training for LGV drivers can be counted as part of their Driver CPC periodic training.

The following amount of time of ADR training will count towards their periodic training:

Up to a maximum of 21 hours of the basic course

7 hours of the core module refresher course

All of the modules within the syllabus can be used except Tankers, Class 1 and Class 7, providing the number of hours training does not exceed the above guidelines.

Please note: the specialist modules that are delivered outside of the basic course will not be accepted for periodic training, as it is considered the syllabus for these modules are too specialist and do not map readily across to the Driver CPC syllabus.

Training centres who are approved to deliver the ADR qualification will also need to be approved by JAUPT and submit the part of the ADR course they wish to count towards Periodic training for approval. Existing centre and course approval fees will be applied (see the Periodic Training Guide for these fees). Please note that as with all Periodic Training tests or exams cannot be included.

you can do it any time after 10 Sept 2009 and when you do the ADR would last for 5 years and run out in 2014 but the cpc would not need to be taken again till before Sept 2019 and if you want to do the adr again than you can but but you will only get 7 hours credit for it

there is 2 providers so far

drivercpc.org/approved-centr … cadr%c2%ac

drivercpc.org/approved-centr … cadr%c2%ac

hope this helps

Mike-C:

Westy:
I let my ADR lapse last year. Just thought id enquire if i was to take the full ADR course again (paid by myself as im self employed) will all the training quaify for the driver CPC

No. Its a totally seperate thing altogether.

Hi chaps,
An initial ADR course will qualify as 21 hours towards the 35 hours training for a driver’s periodic CPC, provided that the course is taken after 10/09/09 AND the course is delivered by an ADR provider who is also registered with JAUPT/DSA as a driver CPC provider.

Only the training for the ADR core, packages and seven classes modules count towards the
driver CPC. Although the driver must also take the ADR exams in the normal way, the time taken for the exams (approx 0.5 day) doesn’t count. The tanker module and the Classes 1 and 7 modules are regarded by JAUPT/DSA as specialisms, and also won’t count.

Peter Smythe:
Beg to differ. Not that it’s that important, but it’s 100% 2019 if he does driver cpc this year.

I will explain why there are two seperate dates.

We will assume that the driver has both PCV & LGV.

The 35 hours for PCV must be completed by Sept 10 2013 for that driver to be allowed to get PAID for driving PCVs.
Those 35 hours will also be counted for the LGV.
The DQC will have a date of 2018 on it for BOTH LGV & PCV.

If the 35 hours are not started until Sept 10 this year then they can be completed by Sept 10 2014 BUT that would mean that although the LGV part is ok from Sept 10 2013 to Sept 10 2014, the PCV will not be covered for that year :exclamation: :exclamation:

AGAIN - the hours gained will count for both PCV & LGV no matter at which the course material is aimed at - do 35 hours of PCV 'training' and that counts for LGV - or the other way around - or a combination of both.

ROG:

Peter Smythe:
Beg to differ. Not that it’s that important, but it’s 100% 2019 if he does driver cpc this year.

I will explain why there are two seperate dates.

We will assume that the driver has both PCV & LGV.

The 35 hours for PCV must be completed by Sept 10 2018 for that driver to be allowed to get PAID for driving PCVs.
Those 35 hours will also be counted for the LGV.
The DQC will have a date of 2018 on it for BOTH LGV & PCV.

If the 35 hours are not started until Sept 10 this year then they can be completed by Sept 10 2019 BUT that would mean that although the LGV part is ok from Sept 10 2018 to Sept 10 2019, the PCV will not be covered for that year :exclamation: :exclamation:

AGAIN - the hours gained will count for both PCV & LGV no matter at which the course material is aimed at - do 35 hours of PCV 'training' and that counts for LGV - or the other way around - or a combination of both.

hi Rog you have you dates wrong mate

you must do 35 hours by 2014 to continue to drive for a living from 2014 till 2019, and during 2014 and 2019 you must complete an other 35 hours, which would then take you till 2024 and so on.

not as you said

If the 35 hours are not started until Sept 10 this year then they can be completed by Sept 10 2019

delboytwo:
hi Rog you have you dates wrong mate

OH [ZB] :blush: :blush: :blush:

Am going to edit it - SENIOR MOMENT AGAIN

dieseldave:

Mike-C:

Westy:
I let my ADR lapse last year. Just thought id enquire if i was to take the full ADR course again (paid by myself as im self employed) will all the training quaify for the driver CPC

No. Its a totally seperate thing altogether.

Hi chaps,
An initial ADR course will qualify as 21 hours towards the 35 hours training for a driver’s periodic CPC, provided that the course is taken after 10/09/09 AND the course is delivered by an ADR provider who is also registered with JAUPT/DSA as a driver CPC provider.

Only the training for the ADR core, packages and seven classes modules count towards the
driver CPC. Although the driver must also take the ADR exams in the normal way, the time taken for the exams (approx 0.5 day) doesn’t count. The tanker module and the Classes 1 and 7 modules are regarded by JAUPT/DSA as specialisms, and also won’t count.

Dave if this is going to be the case then its almost a no brainer for companies to put their drivers through the ADR, it won’t cost much more and you get an extra useful qualification.

ROG Don’t want to be pedantic about this but you will find that those people who passed their car test prior to 1997 and therefore have a C1 and then do the driver cpc for PCV entitlement actually get a card dated 2019. It’s an interesting little fact that I’ve proved several dozen times. Their card covers groups C and D although they hold C1 on grandfather rights.

Mike-C:
Dave if this is going to be the case then its almost a no brainer for companies to put their drivers through the ADR, it won’t cost much more and you get an extra useful qualification.

Hi Mike, yes mate yer only spot-on. :smiley:

My teaching game has gone a bit slack just lately, but that’s for two reasons. One is the recession and the other is that many firms are holding off putting their drivers through ADR until at least Sept 10th if at all possible.

The only stuff I’m getting just lately is ADR refreshers, where the licence will run out before Sept 10th and a few ‘specials’ where the guys just need an ADR licence limited to a single Class, usually Class 2 (for Calor gas) or Class 6 (for infectious surgical instruments going for sterilisation) so it’s time to cut another couple of inches off my belt. :grimacing: