I also hold cat D & DE, but as I mostly drive HGV`s will bias training towards them.
I see manchester training is accredited. I will make inroads into taking an ADR course with them, after 10 Sept 2009 which will account for 21 hours training and an ADR certificate as well!!!
The company I do a lot of work for is also looking for training accreditation. So may look towards training with them, alongside their full time (core) drivers for the remaining 14 hours id have to do to qualify for the full amount of training and yet another card for the wallet!!!
I suppose the longer I leave it, to sort out the training the fewer places there will be and no doubt the more expensive it will become (supply & demand and all that!!!).
I suppose the trucking mags will be going into this in more detail nearer the time, to help us through the minefield of “driver CPC”. Thanks again for the advices.
Westy:
I see manchester training is accredited.
Hi Westy, Yes they are accredited. They got in pretty quickly as soon as this driver CPC thing became clear.
At the moment, Manchester Training have two ADR instructors that I know of, so to avoid any confusion, they are both called Barry. 
They’re easy to tell apart though, cos one is a Brummie and the other is from Merseyside. 
Just so I don’t appear to be biased, there are also the following approved ADR providers in your area, in no particular order:
Nightfreight Training Services
Sandringham Court
Network 65 Business Park
Burnley
BB11 5GG
Tel: 01282 420358
Email: alison.clews@nightfreight.co.uk
Contact: Ms Alison Clews
Specialist Training & Consultancy Services
6 Venture Court
Altham Industrial Estate
Metcalf Drive
Accrington
BB5 5TU
Tel: 01282 687097
Email: nicola@specialisttraining.co.uk
Contact: Ms Nicola Dugdale
Red Rose Training Centre
Europa Way
Radcliffe
Manchester
M26 1GG
Tel: 01204 864000
Email: phil@redrosetraining.co.uk
Contact: Mr Philip Thorp
I’d imagine that the above companies are presently undergoing the necessary approval process to be approved by JAUPT/DSA, so it might be an idea to check prices and who exactly has their approvals sorted again a bit nearer the time you wish to do your ADR course.
TIP: A lot of folks are holding off doing ADR until September, so I’d expect there’ll be somewhat of a flap come September. It’s maybe worth bearing in mind that the maximum ADR class size is 16, no matter how large the classroom is. 
I hope this helps. 
I passed my Cat C with Manchester training years ago and were impressed with them. Their website quotes a good price for the training and states only 12 to a class for a 3.5 day course, But as you suggest it might be better to wait and compare prices for some of the others you mentioned. But on the other hand leaving it whilst i wait to check on others, may make the price increase and availabilty decrease. I cant see the price ever decreasing, which i have to take into account as I will have to pay for the course.
I count myself lucky im not starting out as a driver from scratch as the costs involved are getting ridiculous ie think of a number, double it, multiply by 2 to get how much getting the licence will cost you. It makes you wonder if anyone has thought this whole process through, be cheaper to train as a doctor soon■■?
Cant you do the training diesel dave or is another qualification required■■?
Westy:
Cant you do the training diesel dave or is another qualification required■■?
I’m qualified to teach ADR, but I’m self-employed as an ADR instructor. However, I’m not a training provider. That way, I can work for many different training companies (providers) on an as-and-when basis, without any conflict of interests. If I were also a provider, other providers would never use me as there’d be a fear that I could poach their customers. The providers that I work for have logistics companies as clients, whereas my clients are the training companies themselves.
Having said all that, yes it’s possible that I could train you, but you’d have to come to a place that has booked me in advance of the date you’d like your training to start. I’ve an idea that it will probably be in Warrington or maybe Ellesmere Port.
ROG:
The above is a duplicate post and answered - HERE
not any more I’ve merged the 2 posts and deleted the one with no answers 
Peter Smythe:
ROG Don’t want to be pedantic about this but you will find that those people who passed their car test prior to 1997 and therefore have a C1 and then do the driver cpc for PCV entitlement actually get a card dated 2019. It’s an interesting little fact that I’ve proved several dozen times. Their card covers groups C and D although they hold C1 on grandfather rights.
you are correct in the DQC date of 2019 when the 35 hours are done for any LGV
The problem is PCV (any D PCV licence) as the requirement is to have the 35 hours completed by 2013 with a DQC and dated 2018
2007 No. 605
ROAD TRAFFIC
The Vehicle Drivers (Certificates of Professional Competence)
Regulations 2007
regulation 4
(7) A person is not required to take an initial CPC test relating to vehicles of the category into which that particular relevant vehicle falls if he holds a document described in paragraph (8) –
(a) on 10th September 2008, if that vehicle falls into category D or D+E;
(b) on 10th September 2009, if that vehicle falls into category C or C+E.
Time limits for obtaining a CPC
9.–(1) Subject to paragraphs (2), (3), (4) and (5) of this regulation, a person to whom these Regulations apply is not permitted to drive a relevant vehicle on a road unless no more than five years have elapsed since he obtained a CPC relating to motor vehicles of the category into which that particular relevant vehicle falls.
(2) A person to whom regulation 4(7) applies is not required to hold an initial CPC relating to motor vehicles of the category into which that particular relevant vehicle falls, or
(a) a periodic CPC before 10th September 2013 where that regulation applies to him by virtue of sub-paragraph (a);
(b) a periodic CPC before 10th September 2014 where that regulation applies to him by virtue of sub-paragraph (b).
D1 & C1 are subcatagories of D & C respectively
Hi rog
i think what he is on about is if a new pcv driver did is PCV now IE in 2009 it would last for five years so it would indeed run out in 2014
but like you said in he he entitled to acquired rights and he as had is D1 or D or D+E before Sept 2008 then he would have to do is periodic training by 2013 to enable him to drive for a living passed that date and would get a DQC till 2018
but as started a new driver that passes his or hers test in 2009, the driver CPC would last 5 years and would run out on the date he/her passed, IE took his/hers test on 5 may 09 you would have to do 35 hours of periodic training by the 4 may 2014 whether it be LGV or PSV
delboytwo:
i think what he is on about is if a new pcv driver did is PCV now IE in 2009 it would last for five years so it would indeed run out in 2014
That wou;ld be different and you are correct
delboytwo:
but as started a new driver that passes his or hers test in 2009, the driver CPC would last 5 years and would run out on the date he/her passed, IE took his/hers test on 5 may 09 you would have to do 35 hours of periodic training by the 4 may 20014 whether it be LGV or PSV
Correct again (apart from the year of 20,014 ) if a PCV was passed on that date - the LGV (if got one already) would run to the same date of 05 May 2019 on the second DQC
ROG:
delboytwo:
i think what he is on about is if a new pcv driver did is PCV now IE in 2009 it would last for five years so it would indeed run out in 2014That wou;ld be different and you are correct
delboytwo:
but as started a new driver that passes his or hers test in 2009, the driver CPC would last 5 years and would run out on the date he/her passed, IE took his/hers test on 5 may 09 you would have to do 35 hours of periodic training by the 4 may 20014 whether it be LGV or PSVCorrect again (apart from the year of 20,014
well spotted mate dont think i will be around by then i have edited it
IF you wish to use the ADR training hours to count towards your CPC, the ADR training provider must be approved for BOTH the Driver CPC & ADR. So it’s very much in your own interest to ASK before booking the course.
Checked this out with JAUPT today and have been told that this is not quite the case. The ADR course has to be submitted to JAUPT by the cpc provider together with the normal details of the instructor delivering the training. But that instructor can be supplied by a third party ADR provider under a commercial arrangement with the cpc provider.
Hope this may help.
I’m in the same boat as DAF95XF, so have a year less than the purely LGV guys to get the Drivers CPC under my belt. 
I’d originally intended to do a day’s training each year, as I will be paying for it myself. This would make it easier to manage with finding holiday time and pennies, but a lot of the training around at the moment appears to just be something to fill the alloted hours, rather than particularly interesting or relevant subject matter.
Please don’t get me wrong, I’m sure some training schools have excellent programmes, I just haven’t come across them yet - I think many struggled to put courses together to meet the requirements in the timescales they were given.
It would be better if the CPC required a day’s driving refresher every year or some other PRACTICAL training, rather than classroom-based learning. There’s nothing like a professional eye to help one brush up on one’s driving skills and there’s always something to learn - I wouldn’t mind paying for that.
Although the CPC is a fairly expensive undertaking, epecially if self-funded, as a relatively inexperienced large vehicle driver, I looked on it as an opportunity to fill some of the (many) gaps in my knowledge.
The syllabi currently on offer do not seem to meet my expectation…! 
Although rules and regulations are essential, this is a physical business, so practical tuition would seem more appropriate.
delboytwo - thanks for the ADR links. Although it is not a qualification that I currently need, I would far rather spend my time on money on something where I really learn something, so it is something I would seriously consider.
I hope that more training schools register as providers, as two on the links are in Derby and Manchester - it would be good to have something a bit further south to save some money on travelling and accommodation costs.
So, DieselDave, any chance of you digging out your passport and coming south of Watford Gap to do some training in the next year or so?
many struggled to put courses together to meet the requirements in the timescales they were given.
I’m sure I speak on behalf of all the good trainers out there - - and there’s plenty of them - - when I say that there is no timescale issue. Our courses for PCV periodic training were approved a year ago in readiness for last September and many of those courses have dual approval i.e they meet the criteria with minimal changes for both PCV and LGV. Our remaining courses are about to be approved.
It would be better if the CPC required a day’s driving refresher every year or some other PRACTICAL training, rather than classroom-based learning.
Whilst the regs don’t demand refresher/advanced training, they do allow for it. It is totally up to the customer which form of training they book. Clearly, where the decision is purely cost based, classroom training wins every time. But I have found the take up of driving courses within the PCV sector heartening.
Sorry to keep referring to PCV but that is the only history available.
You should have no problem finding a trainer willing to operate in your area. Several of us offer a fully national provision. Suggest you check out the JAUPT website and follow the guides for approved training centres. This will then give you a search facility for areas covered. You can also check out the courses currently approved - but you will find these will increase over the next few months.
Hope this helps.
Peter Smythe:
You should have no problem finding a trainer willing to operate in your area. Several of us offer a fully national provision. Suggest you check out the JAUPT website and follow the guides for approved training centres. This will then give you a search facility for areas covered. You can also check out the courses currently approved - but you will find these will increase over the next few months.
These links might help
PERIODIC DRIVER CPC COURSES
THE PERIODIC (ongoing) DRIVER CPC
Peter Smythe:
IF you wish to use the ADR training hours to count towards your CPC, the ADR training provider must be approved for BOTH the Driver CPC & ADR. So it’s very much in your own interest to ASK before booking the course.
Checked this out with JAUPT today and have been told that this is not quite the case. The ADR course has to be submitted to JAUPT by the cpc provider together with the normal details of the instructor delivering the training. But that instructor can be supplied by a third party ADR provider under a commercial arrangement with the cpc provider.
Hope this may help.
Hi Peter, That’s a fair comment, based on the info that you presently have to hand.
However, the TAP have queried with the DfT about the whole approval process for ADR in the context of the driver CPC. Their point is that the DfT has already approved all current ADR courses after they were first submitted to SQA under the present ADR system. Every ADR provider has a DfT approval number, which consists of an “N” followed by three digits AND a separate SQA approval number, which consists of four digits.
The TAP are wondering how it is that ADR providers seem to have to (effectively) pay the DfT twice for the same thing. The answer might be interesting.