Evil8Beezle:
The problem you have there Snowman, is that you don’t need the help!
Eugh .
If your nose gets any browner …
They will have to take SnowTroll to hospital …
And have u surgically removed !!
boredwivdrivin:
Eugh .If your nose gets any browner …
They will have to take SnowTroll to hospital …
And have u surgically removed !!
Says the man practically offering supermultimoron ■■■■■■■■ and leaping to his defense when ever the poor baby gets some tough questions.
boredwivdrivin:
Eugh .
If your nose gets any browner …
They will have to take SnowTroll to hospital …
And have u surgically removed !!
Didn’t your alter ego on here old Dieseldoforme/■■■■■■ have something surgically removed, or are they still getting tablets and counselling?
kindle530:
danthetrucker:
At the risk of derailing some third-rate trolling by asking a genuine question.Could a company be daft enough to impose a no flashing rule on the fear of being held liable in the event of an accident or some other h&s related nonsense?
I was told when i was at DHL not to flash anyone in for that reason.
I wouldn’t take any notice of some office type trying to tell me how I should be driving unless I had done something wrong or illegal.
danthetrucker:
As I say it is nonsense but scenario goes you flash, they crash and try to claim some of your company’s cash for the flash.
15+ years in insurance tells me this could easily happen. And it’s not whether the claim would be successful but for any such allegation there is time and money needed to resolve it…
I appreciate you have experience in this stuff mate, but this is how all this h&s bull ■■■■ rules come about.
Some prick is paid a wage to do ‘risk assessment’ 
and if they find the tiniest minute potential risk, no matter how sucessfull the procedure has been for God knows how many years.(as in this case) the knee jerk reaction of banning every ■■■■ thing comes about.
I don’t think it would happen in this case anyway. If you flash me in it is still up to me if I take notice.
Also if an accident did occur if you say…flashed too early, your line of defence would be that you were observing the Highway code, ie. you were making me aware of your presence.
So please… don’t give these ■■■■ s any more ideas for even more bloody stupid rules.
keebs26uk:
Captain Caveman 76:
Are Stobrats drivers under instruction to not be courteous? I don’t recall one flashing me in or thanking me. Ever.I find this too, most likely a company policy thing.
I flash everyone in always have done from the day I passed my test. I treat people the same.
Anyway my Popcorn has run out someone go get me some more please I don’t want to miss anything lol
Yes and we also get sacked if we don’t wave at the spotters and if we ate seem without our tie on.
My philosophy is, if you need me to flash you in you’re probably about to cut in to my stopping distance. By the time another truck is at a safe distance to pull in it should be obvious to all but the most blind of drivers that it’s safe to pull in.
Nothing to do with manners or lack of courtesy. If a driver flashes me in I always flash back. I just don’t see the need for it. In fact in most cases it’s dangerous. It can lead to long periods of time when you really can’t see what’s going on ahead until the vehicle in front pulls out a safe distance.
Might get ripped for this by some sections but I will flash in any truck, coaches, the odd 7.5t and I will even flash in caravans and motor homes!! Doesn’t cost me anything and only takes a second!!
Terry T:
My philosophy is, if you need me to flash you in you’re probably about to cut in to my stopping distance. By the time another truck is at a safe distance to pull in it should be obvious to all but the most blind of drivers that it’s safe to pull in
We don’t NEED you to flash us in mate 
ffs.
At the risk of repeating myself (again ) most good capable drivers don’t NEED flashing in.
The same good drivers take the flash as a sign that you are comfortable with the amount of space they are about to leave…the bell ends who say ‘‘I don’t wait for a flash as I know exactly where the trailer doors are’’ 
as if they are better than the rest of us,…do not, and pull in before you flash with the result of nearly colliding and/or putting you of the road.
Am I the only one that sees that??
I overtake, again knowing when it is safe to pull in, wait for flash, if I don’t get it…couldn’t give a ■■■■, …but at least I know I am not invading your space when I pull in.
So you are right mate it is obvious to me, but being as I am not a complete ■■■■, I wait that little bit longer.
Terry T:
I just don’t see the need for it. In fact in most cases it’s dangerous. It can lead to long periods of time when you really can’t see what’s going on ahead until the vehicle in front pulls out a safe distance.
So you’re flashing them in even though you’re not comfortable with the distance?
Can you see why I use the word cabbage so much on here?
In ‘my time’ a century ago a flash was just a courtesy nod to let them know that they had cleared your front end, it was then left up to them to pull in when they were a safe distance ahead and not an invitation to take your front bumper off. Of course some did pull in early before you had a chance to flash, so you just eased off a touch and swore quietly under your breath! However I notice with some driver’s nowadays that as soon as they are flashed they pull in immediately regardless of the distance between without really checking for themselves, therefore putting the responsibility of the move on the driver behind. Perhaps it is best overall not to flash at all, but to get back to the original question I flashed in all nationalities.
Pete.
Contraflow:
Terry T:
I just don’t see the need for it. In fact in most cases it’s dangerous. It can lead to long periods of time when you really can’t see what’s going on ahead until the vehicle in front pulls out a safe distance.So you’re flashing them in even though you’re not comfortable with the distance?
Can you see why I use the word cabbage so much on here?
It would appear you’re the cabbage. As I’ve already said, I don’t flash people in. If people flash me in I’ll flash my indicators back as a thank you.
When the roles are reversed I find that most drivers have already started to pull back in before they’ve pulled out what I consider to be a safe distance.
The fact is, people who flash the instant the trailer is past their cab are just inviting people to sit a few metres in front of them. These are the real cabbages. Dress it up how you like. Don’t say it doesn’t happen because I see it dozens of times every day.
However I notice with some driver’s nowadays that as soon as they are flashed they pull in immediately regardless of the distance between without really checking for themselves, therefore putting the responsibility of the move on the driver behind. Perhaps it is best overall not to flash at all,
Perhaps your right.
We don’t NEED you to flash us in mate
Good, you won’t be disappointed when I don’t then 
It’s got nothing to do with knowing where the back of my trailer is. I don’t need to know where it is coz I make ■■■■ sure that when I pull back in I’m nowhere near the vehicle I’ve just overtaken. I don’t drive on the limiter so always have plenty juice to make a safe and quick overtake.
Terry T:
Contraflow:
Terry T:
I just don’t see the need for it. In fact in most cases it’s dangerous. It can lead to long periods of time when you really can’t see what’s going on ahead until the vehicle in front pulls out a safe distance.So you’re flashing them in even though you’re not comfortable with the distance?
Can you see why I use the word cabbage so much on here?
It would appear you’re the cabbage. As I’ve already said, I don’t flash people in. If people flash me in I’ll flash my indicators back as a thank you.
My apologies.
Apology accepted 
Terry T:
We don’t NEED you to flash us in mate
Good, you won’t be disappointed when I don’t then
.
Err no the clue was in my quote…‘‘If I don’t get it I couldn’t give a ■■■■’’ 
On the other hand some may say it is drivers like you that started all this ■■■■.
I remember a time when 99.9% of drivers flashed you in, I can not remember at that time any bell ends that cut in on you,… presumably because of that.
About 10 yrs ago a lot, for whatever reason stopped it, so the less experienced and/ or incompetent amongst us were unsure if it was safe, hence the cutting in started.
Today some like me flash, some like you don’t , so we get the ■■■■ poor situation that we have today.
I notice the odd one who will pull in front with less then a car length gap. These are the ones that clearly have the I know where my back end is attitude. At night time especially I think it’s very dangerous. I don’t need flashing in most of us don’t but we do it out of politeness so the driver passing me knows when I am comfortable with the gap… I passed my test 7 years ago and on day 1 I never had to be told all this it’s common sense.
Common sense goes far in this world
robroy:
On the other hand some may say it is drivers like you that started all this [zb].
I don’t cut in on drivers. If other drivers do that’s their fault not mine.
Terry T:
robroy:
On the other hand some may say it is drivers like you that started all this [zb].I don’t cut in on drivers. If other drivers do that’s their fault not mine.
Think you are deliberately choosing to miss my point mate.
Read the post you are replying to.
I never said that you cut in. I was referring to the fact that by your own admission you never give a flash, and that’s up to you, either because you can’t be arsed, or it’s just to make some kind of point, who knows…who cares.
As I said, it could however result in some drivers becoming confused, resulting in their dangerous reaction to your lack of consideration.
Ok maybe not directly as you say, your fault, but indirectly instigated by your action or lack of it.
That is why I will continue to flash trucks in, both as a guide to them pulling in (needed or not) and an indication that they are not invading my space.
It is a system that has worked for years, and long before you and I became drivers.
robroy:
Terry T:
We don’t NEED you to flash us in mate
Good, you won’t be disappointed when I don’t then
.
Err no the clue was in my quote…‘‘If I don’t get it I couldn’t give a [zb]’’
On the other hand some may say it is drivers like you that started all this [zb].
I remember a time when 99.9% of drivers flashed you in, I can not remember at that time any bell ends that cut in on you,… presumably because of that.About 10 yrs ago a lot, for whatever reason stopped it, so the less experienced and/ or incompetent amongst us were unsure if it was safe, hence the cutting in started.
Today some like me flash, some like you don’t , so we get the ■■■■ poor situation that we have today.
Days before limiters there was anything up to a 20 mph difference (or more in some cases, no names no pack drill) regularly between the overtaker and the overtaken, even if the flash was given at the moment the rear cleared the overtaker would be many yards ahead even if a swerver was at the helm.
Just thought in a brief moment of lucidity i’d chuck something random in… 
s’ok i’m off to bed now.
SuperMultiBlue:
Do we flash non-british trucks in and out? … yes or no?
NO