Hi all, I’m working on the agency somewhere and I’m used to doing a manual entry for 15 minutes at the end of the day for a debrief. Previously at another assignment I was told always 15 and I was paid for it even if it wasn’t always used. This place are like you get paid for when you walk into the office. Which is like 30’seconds from the truck.
Do you get fined for not recording a debrief? I guess I can no longer add it on then which is a bit ■■■■ to be fair.
What’s your thoughts
So far as I know there is no legal obligation to book a debrief at shift end. Company rules are not laws.
Normally one would show duty time for vehicle checks etc at the start of a shift but not necessarily at the end.
If you do genuinely spend time in the office etc then do book it, but if you chuck the keys at someone as you race to your car don’t bother.
The next time you book on, in your next assignment, you could do a manual entry if you have worked after taking your card out.
Odd infringements of 10m or 15 mins rarely end in actual fines etc.
Try to do the job right, but do not worry! 
As Franglais said, the DVSA enforcement are not worried about minor discrepancies and divergences in unintended tachograph entry mistakes.
They are after major fraud and deception that’s intended to hide all aspects of the use of the tachograph.
The time to check the vehicle before starting a journey does not really have a set time written in law or in the regulations,the 15 minutes is only the recommended time by DVSA as it doesn’t include climbing underneath to carry out a full inspection, it’s a walk around check for public safety and the driver’s safety.
The consensus is what happens in a court room when someone is seriously injured or killed because the pre departure check was not long enough to check it properly.
A barrister would argue as an example if the check was 5 or 10 minutes, he would cite it’s not long enough.
The driver in the Bath tipper crash was cleared of all charges, the accident resulted in multiple fatalities as he could not have known the condition of the brakes as that check is not required in the pre departure safety inspection.