DCPC What do you want from it?

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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After reading the Will you do the DCPC thread it seems some drivers are against the way the DCPC is run.

What do you want from a DCPC. We have to do it we know that so dropping it is not an option. So would you be in favour of a pass fail test?
A rule where you cant sit the same module more than once a yesr etc etc

The rules of my game say you cant say scrap it. If you do the fleas of a thousand cammels will infest your arm pits :slight_smile:

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A 35 hour sleep at the back of class is what i want from it, comfy chairs wouldn’t go a miss

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merc0447:
A 35 hour sleep at the back of class is what i want from it, comfy chairs wouldn’t go a miss

Thats wot you will get nowt else… :confused:

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another 35 hours. :laughing:

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What drivers want is training specifically tailored to their individual needs but the dcpc system does not cater for that

Until the dcpc system changes then I do not think any driver will get what they want from it

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ROG:
What drivers want is training specifically tailored to their individual needs but the dcpc system does not cater for that

Until the dcpc system changes then I do not think any driver will get what they want from it

Some, yes. But there are many that think they already know it all… :smiley:

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Truckulent:

ROG:
What drivers want is training specifically tailored to their individual needs but the dcpc system does not cater for that

Until the dcpc system changes then I do not think any driver will get what they want from it

Some, yes. But there are many that think they already know it all… :smiley:

Correct… :slight_smile:

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If there are drivers that think they know it but don’t then surely the thing to do is to have an assessment to determine what it is they do or do not need … the dcpc does not address that major issue

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ROG:
If there are drivers that think they know it but don’t then surely the thing to do is to have an assessment to determine what it is they do or do not need … the dcpc does not address that major issue

I agree. My attitude is you never stop learning. those that think otherwise still have much to learn… :wink:

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Truckulent:

ROG:
I agree. My attitude is you never stop learning. those that think otherwise still have much to learn… :wink:

correct! :grimacing: :grimacing:

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Well I wonder where the person or persons that introduced this DCPC, Got there learning from, were they ever involved with the haulage industry at any time, ■■?, As far as Im concerned its just another money making exercise that wont change anything, But of course thats my opinion as a retired Haulage Contractor, Regards Larry.

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ROG:
What drivers want is training specifically tailored to their individual needs but the dcpc system does not cater for that

Until the dcpc system changes then I do not think any driver will get what they want from it

It is possible to have this training if you are prepared to shop around for the course you want. Company’s can also talk to their local training companies and have courses designed for their drivers and specifically for or about their company. The problem of this is the training company will have to pay £250 something to have it accredited, then their is the time for the writing of it. Then the cost of delivery.

I have done this in the past and to be fair you are right these are the best courses to deliver as the drivers feel the course is about them and their work and can benefit from the course.

I have also done this paid the money out and then the company pulled out of the training leaving me ÂŁ250 something out of pocket.

I would like us the trainers to have more freedom to change the courses without a financial penalty. So when delivering a drivers hours course I can put more in and take some information out that is relevant or not relevant.

We have a small amount of freedom but not enough.

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Long distance clara:
Company’s can also talk to their local training companies and have courses designed for their drivers and specifically for or about their company.

Agree with the dcpc if it could always work that way

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Long distance clara:
After reading the Will you do the DCPC thread it seems some drivers are against the way the DCPC is run.

What do you want from a DCPC. We have to do it we know that so dropping it is not an option. So would you be in favour of a pass fail test?
A rule where you cant sit the same module more than once a yesr etc etc

The rules of my game say you cant say scrap it. If you do the fleas of a thousand cammels will infest your arm pits :slight_smile:

Yes but without the compulsory course attendance, most of the subjects covered by the DCPC could just as easily be covered by a simple test every five years to show that the driver has the required knowledge, study could be done without compulsory and expensive training courses, except of course where individual drivers wanted to attend a course or where a company wanted to organise and pay for a course.

The system I’m advocating would I believe give all the EU claimed benefits of the DCPC,

  • The qualification would be a credible one because the driver has had to prove his knowledge whilst the current system has no credibility.
  • The qualification would save the road transport industry millions of pounds per year, billions over the years, in many cases it would also save individual drivers a considerable amount of money.
  • The qualification would raise the profile and perceived skill level of the driver because he’s had to obtain a credible qualification.
  • The DCPC would not simply be seen as a money making exercise as it currently is.

I don’t blame trainers for supporting the current system because no-ones going to bite the hand that feeds them but that doesn’t justify the ridiculous and expensive current system.

Long distance clara:
The rules of my game say you cant say scrap it. If you do the fleas of a thousand cammels will infest your arm pits

I’m not saying it should be scrapped but that it should be modified to become a credible and worthwhile qualification that will not be unrealistically expensive and generally worthless.

So presumably I’ll be excused the fleas :smiley:

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For me, the DCPC solves a problem that doesn’t actually exist. If you’re a politician however, it’s a genius piece of legislature. Now they can quote the existence of the DCPC when mumsnet boils over after some vociferous bint experiences a ‘bully boy’ in a truck that doesn’t let them pull out of a junction.

My current employer has put me through 24hrs worth as part of the company induction process, I treat every experience as a learning experience & in that 24hrs (, 12hrs actually) I probably learned 15mins worth !

I’ve asked for the remaining hrs to be ADR oriented. This has put the wind up 'em.

They need me to be qualified to do their job for them, but they’d rather I wasn’t qualified to do a job for someone else, especially when they’re paying for it.

I can’t wait for 2014 when the theories of all us neanderthal knuckledraggers will finally be put to the test :smiley:

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As a tipper driver, a course that’s relevant to the type of work I do. I don’t want to hear about split rests and lorry bans on the continent, ferry modes on digitachs etc. I don’t want to hear war stories about “the Middle East Run” or how to set fridge temperatures.
More relevant would be environmental rules, correct filling in of waste transfer tickets, axle loads, etc.
Much of this is dealt with in the MPQC (EPIC) syllabus but this is mainly geared towards showing you old cyclist-safety videos with Penny “I’m cleverer than you because I drove rally cars” Mallory. Plenty of waffle about carrying asphalt pads the time on this course too (not every tipper can carry hot stuff).
Also, a course without all the time wasting introductions. I don’t care who you are or if you’ve driven to the moon in an F16 for Ralph Davis or even met a nice South African whilst hauling for Eric Vick.

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What I want is a card thats worth more than the plastic its printed on! simples.

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well it seams there some that want it as these figures show but not many

2008/2009 DQC issued from periodic training 655
2009/2010 DQC issued from periodic training 3790
2010/2011 DQC issued from periodic training 10215
2011/2012 DQC issued from periodic training 29219
2012/2013DQC issued from periodic training 5022 as of September 2012

total DQC card issued for periodic training 48901 driver have had there DQC issued from September 2008 to September 2012

out of a total of 556384 actively taking there periodic training.

so I one of the lucky one that have done it

so there’s 556384 drivers actively doing it so let say there all need 7 hour this year that 79483 training day this year

or if you look at the bigger picture total training hours this year needed is 3,894.688
in the last 6 months only 320.626 hours were completed.

i know how boring am I :stuck_out_tongue: :laughing: :laughing: