ROG:
Tachodisc have it wrong
So they have…
Just found a .gov PDF that states £50.
Page 39 starts the list of Level 1 £50 fines - Bottom of page 43 states the CPC entry.
Can’t see the problem myself, I was so happy to get my card I show it to everyone I can collar. I would no more leave the house with no underwear on than leave my card behind.
This topic has a simple answer: if you don’t want to carry the card then don’t, If you want to carry the card then carry it. If you get stopped & asked for it, assuming you’ve done the course, then show it or say it’s in the house. Take the consequences if any.
BillyHunt:
Can’t see the problem myself, I was so happy to get my card I show it to everyone I can collar. I would no more leave the house with no underwear on than leave my card behind.
This topic has a simple answer: if you don’t want to carry the card then don’t, If you want to carry the card then carry it. If you get stopped & asked for it, assuming you’ve done the course, then show it or say it’s in the house. Take the consequences if any.
+1 ,another reason I carry my DL Both parts too
Héraultais:
tachograph:
So what’s a community licence if not a community driving licence, which I think you’ll find is the only licence handed out now and as far as I’m aware has been for quite some time.I’ll stand to be corrected though.
You are not taking account that this bit in bold
(b)a Community licence with the Community code;
refers to theose countries that put the code 95 on the licence for the CPC instead of issuing a seperate card.
This link gives the clearest list of community codes, though a norwegian document it is in English. Page 4 for the list of codes.
Héraultais:
This link gives the clearest list of community codes, though a norwegian document it is in English. Page 4 for the list of codes.
That’s a good document, thanks for the link 
tachograph:
That’s a good document, thanks for the link
You’re very welcome.
Can I ask though, as you are a respected poster, and most people ignore what I post because I simply post the truth with relevant links without embelishment, for you to confirm that you now see that my previous point that your quote
tachograph:
There is no offence committed for not carrying the DQC before September if you have acquired rights, your licence which shows that you have acquired rights would be sufficient.From the regulations (Article 10 - The Vehicle Drivers (Certificates of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007):
Requirement to carry and produce evidence of CPC or of training exemption in vehicle
11.–(1) Subject to paragraph (4), a person who is required to hold a CPC by virtue of
regulation 9(1) and who does not carry with him in the vehicle which he is driving evidence of
that CPC as specified in paragraph (2) is guilty of an offence.(2) That evidence may be any of the following documents–
(a) a driver qualification card;
(b) a Community licence with the Community code;
(c) a driver’s certificate granted to him by a member State other than the United Kingdom as
referred to in Article 10(3)(a) of the Directive; or
(d) any other document issued to the driver by a member State other than the United
Kingdom certifying an initial CPC or a periodic CPC.
does not prove that you are exempt from carrying your card if you have completed 35 hrs.
Héraultais:
tachograph:
That’s a good document, thanks for the linkYou’re very welcome.
Can I ask though, as you are a respected poster, and most people ignore what I post because I simply post the truth with relevant links without embelishment, for you to confirm that you now see that my previous point that your quote
tachograph:
There is no offence committed for not carrying the DQC before September if you have acquired rights, your licence which shows that you have acquired rights would be sufficient.From the regulations (Article 10 - The Vehicle Drivers (Certificates of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007):
Requirement to carry and produce evidence of CPC or of training exemption in vehicle
11.–(1) Subject to paragraph (4), a person who is required to hold a CPC by virtue of
regulation 9(1) and who does not carry with him in the vehicle which he is driving evidence of
that CPC as specified in paragraph (2) is guilty of an offence.(2) That evidence may be any of the following documents–
(a) a driver qualification card;
(b) a Community licence with the Community code;
(c) a driver’s certificate granted to him by a member State other than the United Kingdom as
referred to in Article 10(3)(a) of the Directive; or
(d) any other document issued to the driver by a member State other than the United
Kingdom certifying an initial CPC or a periodic CPC.does not prove that you are exempt from carrying your card if you have completed 35 hrs.
Well I certainly see your point about the community licence code, and that document is the most informative I’ve seen about the licence 
However as far as I can see it doesn’t change anything because it still remains that only people who are legally required to hold a DCPC qualification have a legal obligation to carry proof of holding the qualification.
As I stated in a previous post the date on your licence when your first HGV entitlement started would show that you have acquired rights and are therefore exempt, and as far as I can see there is no legal requirement to prove that you are exempt so you don’t even need to show your licence really, I always carry mine which is why I mentioned the licence in the first place.
I stand by my original statement that people with acquired rights have no legal obligation to carry a DQC if they have one.
Well, thank you for agreeing that your quote doesn’t prove in itself that there is no requirement for a UK licence holder with grandfather rights to carry their DQC on completion of their 35 hrs. 
As for the whether they do or not, I still think there is no hard fact either way, other than the letter that comes with the card and the statement on the gov site. We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.
Héraultais:
Well, thank you for agreeing that your quote doesn’t prove in itself that there is no requirement for a UK licence holder with grandfather rights to carry their DQC on completion of their 35 hrs.As for the whether they do or not, I still think there is no hard fact either way, other than the letter that comes with the card and the statement on the gov site. We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.
Sorry but I may not have been clear enough, the quote shows that people who are legally required to hold a DCQ must carry it or proof of it with them, the point is that it specifies “a person who is required to hold a CPC” it doesn’t say people who hold a DQC, anyone with acquired rights is not legally required to hold a DQC until September, a minor point maybe but when we’re talking about someone being fined for not carrying the DQC (as in the threads opening post) it’s an important point I think.
That was the intention of the original quote but I confused the issue with talk about the licence … put it down to old age 
11.–(1) Subject to paragraph (4), a person who is required to hold a CPC by virtue of
regulation 9(1) and who does not carry with him in the vehicle which he is driving evidence of
that CPC as specified in paragraph (2) is guilty of an offence.
tachograph:
Sorry but I may not have been clear enough, the quote shows that people who are legally required to hold a DCQ must carry it or proof of it with them, the point is that it specifies “a person who is required to hold a CPC” it doesn’t say people who hold a DQC, anyone with acquired rights is not legally required to hold a DQC until September, a minor point maybe but when we’re talking about someone being fined for not carrying the DQC (as in the threads opening post) it’s an important point I think.That was the intention of the original quote but I confused the issue with talk about the licence … put it down to old age
11.–(1) Subject to paragraph (4), a person who is required to hold a CPC by virtue of
regulation 9(1) and who does not carry with him in the vehicle which he is driving evidence of
that CPC as specified in paragraph (2) is guilty of an offence.
Right, now the issue ofthe licence is out of the way I see what you are getting at. Nice subtle bit of wording there, and difficult to argue against that. Doesn’t change anything for me though, here in France I am very definitely required to carry mine, although I have never been stopped, let alone asked for it, not even by an employer!