Andrejs:
yesterday booked my last 7 hours CPC,was paid 50 pound.ask this school about what will be -he said -about driving hours all 7 hours.really driving hours can taked 2 hours.i think will be burring day.but anyway must seating this 7 hours
youll find that one driver will decide if the bloke taking the cpc say a,then the driver will say b,the cpc bloke will try to move on too another subject but driver will not leave it,he has too continue his fruitless argument,yes it should take 5 mins,2 hrs,but theres always a driver/multiple drivers who turn the day into a struggle to get done in 7 hrs ,if everyone just sat back,chilled it may still take 7 hrs,but most of that will be coffee breaks,■■■ breaks,food breaks.
Long distance clara:
ROG we have jad this conversation on many occassion.
LDC,
I can imagine this.
Long distance clara:
The drivers are being booked or are being sold the wrong courses.
This^^^ many times over.
There are many, many different courses that are approved for periodic DCPC, so it’s not that difficult for a driver to find something of benefit, or that they’re interested in.
I think its great, finished mine recently same modules repeated 3 times but I can live with that.of course the fact that I get paid an 11 1/2 hour shift for sitting 7 hours makes it bearable…
I’m thinking of paying for my own DCPC when I return to England next. I feel it will be a valuable certificate that will give me huge credibility with the public. I’m looking forward to leaving behind my cowboy ways and joining the ranks of the safe, professional and qualified driving work force. I’ll keep my dcpc card nice and safe with my pristine his vis vest and polished boots that I’ve also yet to purchase and with time I hope to become a real professional and maybe one day even a jobsworth at a large blue chip company. Can anyone suggest any courses that will help me become a corporate clone, maybe one that covers how to get in and out of my cab with minimum risk to my personal safety and naturally the company insurance policy and I’d also like some expert training by a college graduate on load security as I dont think my several years actual experience successfully securing countless different types of load mean much and I’m scared to continue working without the necesary paper qualifications.
I’ll be in the North Lincolnshire area so if any one knows the name of the local mafia man to whom I can pass on a few hundred pounds protection money to carry on as I was, I’d be most greatful.
robinhood_1984:
I’m thinking of paying for my own DCPC when I return to England next. I feel it will be a valuable certificate that will give me huge credibility with the public. I’m looking forward to leaving behind my cowboy ways and joining the ranks of the safe, professional and qualified driving work force. I’ll keep my dcpc card nice and safe with my pristine his vis vest and polished boots that I’ve also yet to purchase and with time I hope to become a real professional and maybe one day even a jobsworth at a large blue chip company. Can anyone suggest any courses that will help me become a corporate clone, maybe one that covers how to get in and out of my cab with minimum risk to my personal safety and naturally the company insurance policy and I’d also like some expert training by a college graduate on load security as I dont think my several years actual experience successfully securing countless different types of load mean much and I’m scared to continue working without the necesary paper qualifications.
I’ll be in the North Lincolnshire area so if any one knows the name of the local mafia man to whom I can pass on a few hundred pounds protection money to carry on as I was, I’d be most greatful.
I obviously know you’re joking but some of the daft sods on here really do think they’re going to be joining the ranks of accountants and lawyers in the professional classes once they’ve done their DCPC. Bless 'em.
Long distance clara:
ROG we have jad this conversation on many occassion.
LDC,
I can imagine this.
Long distance clara:
The drivers are being booked or are being sold the wrong courses.
This^^^ many times over.
There are many, many different courses that are approved for periodic DCPC, so it’s not that difficult for a driver to find something of benefit, or that they’re interested in.
It really doesn’t need to be boring.
A course in flower arranging might be new and interesting but it won’t help them do their job any better.
Take supermarket trolley drivers, with the big chains like Sainsburys and Tesco it’s been drive trailer off bay at RDC, follow route provided, back on to bay at store, then repeat. It’s been that for over three decades, I can’t see how trying to stuff drivers heads with all sorts of facts, unrelated to their jobs, on a vague lorry or motoring related themes is going to do anything other than potentially introduce confusion. Add in it’s got to fill 35 hours!! I didn’t spend that many hours studying for an actual CPC.
The fact still remains that if the legislation had made the DCPC training compulsory for drivers to it, compulsory for employers to provide it free of charge and compulsory for drivers to be paid for doing it, there would be no complaints whatsoever
…I forgot owner drivers, they would have to be state funded.
If a driver has to pay out of their own pocket then why should they pay more of their hard earned money for a course thats not boring ?
There is a 7 hour course on this site for £275 using a LGV on a skid pan = not boring but costly
There are boring 7 hour courses for about £50 = boring but cheap
When dcpc trainers are mentioning courses why does the cost not get mentioned ?
Who says not boring is more expensive?
A drivers hours course is not boring to those who kow nothing about it.
Pick the course that suits you and your pocket.
I do not mention prices as i was not sure if it was allowed.
DCPC full 1 day HSE course, or QCF including certificate and upload. £68.75 all in.
Taught by ex fireman, first responder or a first aider with over 17 years experience including sucsesfull CPR of a lorry driver(no his heart problem was not bought on by the price
If there is a big group we can negociate on price. The course is the same as any Red Cross or St Johns but they want around £105 plus vat. The course will not make you a better driver but that is not what DCPC is all about. What it might do is give you the chance to save a family, colleague or possibly your own life.
Every first aid course delivered has had great feedback even from the most negative of drivers. I will not do it but links to feedback sites can be provided as proof but not on here.
My point is that a driver may only have X amount available to spend on a course so why should they be limited to courses that are perhaps boring as they already know the info being given on those courses
The only courses that might be useful to the driver with limited funds are well out of their financial reach
What do dcpc trainers advise the driver to do in that case ?
robinhood_1984:
I obviously know you’re joking but some of the daft sods on here really do think they’re going to be joining the ranks of accountants and lawyers in the professional classes once they’ve done their DCPC. Bless 'em.
at least that’s three of us with a sense of humour!
What’s the deadline again for having 35 hours in your pocket?
If you’ve done 4x7 hour modules by that point, and don’t make the deadline, what happens?
These are big questions for agency drivers, since there’s NO help in even setting all this up at our own expense…
By the looks of it, we’re going to have to take a week off unpaid, AND pay for the course & upload fee…
after that, there’s no talk of even “preferential treatment” for shifts - just that you won’t get work WITHOUT your card.
HMRC say that you can claim as expenses “compulsory items directly related to doing your job”, but since expenses cannot be backdated, this still means paying for a course out of your own pocket upfront, and then attempting to claim back some kind of tax offset via wages… Unless someone else has got a better idea.
Winseer:
What’s the deadline again for having 35 hours in your pocket?
If you’ve done 4x7 hour modules by that point, and don’t make the deadline, what happens?
No DQC then no commercial LGV driving after 09/09/2014 its that simple and easy for authorites to check on
Driver and employer could get a fine up to £1000 each for allowing the above to drive with a valid DQC
Miss the ‘ghost’ DQC dealine of 09/09/2014 and have 28 hours done then go and get the last 7 because as long as those 28 and the last 7 are all within a 5 year period then they will all count
So at least one of those modules was of use to you given your questions on here.
You now know whether or not to take your tacho card out if you’re having a daily rest away from the wagon away from base and whether or not to fill in paper charts when you’re doing out of scope driving?
Well I’ve just had some great news regarding the CPC. After packing in my last job just before Xmas I’ve just started back with a drainage company. I now drive a vactor, it’s basically a large water tank with a pump, to flush sewer systems, and a suction device to ■■■■ out the debris. Class 2 work. Talking to my supervisor today about the drivers CPC and he tells me we are exempt! I reckoned we aren’t but he insists that, as we are classed as plant, we don’t need to do it. I’ve checked the government website and there is no mention of plant being exempt so I still think he’s wrong but I’m not going to labour the point. I think he is getting confused with the Tacho rules, the industry has a derogation, or exemption if you will and don’t use them. Happy days for now.
,if everyone just sat back,chilled it may still take 7 hrs,but most of that will be coffee breaks,■■■ breaks,food breaks. 
There are many, many different courses that are approved for periodic DCPC, so it’s not that difficult for a driver to find something of benefit, or that they’re interested in.
