Rob K:
dessy:
Thetaff:
^^^^^Well said that man!!And now they want to bring it over here too!
I’ve just been reading your arse-licking posts over there and you’re as detached from reality as he is. Are you his official spokesperson? You and him go very well together.
It’s my own opinion related to the thread Rob! And I’m not a spokesman for anyone fella! 
Rob K:
the flying foden:
i believe that Mr tozer [has] scrap[ped] plans for the cheap dcpc.and the protest is back on again
WTF?
Unbelievable. He complains that he doesn’t get enough for support for stuff but yet he had 9 full pages of members with the money in their hands and then he decides that he can’t be arsed with it anymore and decides to pull it “due to lack of interest”.
But wait… he has gone back to his original plan of protesting against the DCPC in London. WTF. The protest didn’t even attract a tenth of the support of the cheap DCPC course so go figure ? ? ? ■■ ?
We all know the real reason why he’s done this - it’s because a few individuals on another forum did not share his train of thought and so he took major offence and threw all his toys out of his pram in anger. Pathetic.
I retract my earlier comments in this thread about him being a good guy. Quite clearly I was wrong and the guy is a complete time-waster and couldn’t organise an ■■■■ in a whorehouse. I think Rikki should ban any discussion of topics/petitions/protests from there and also any mention of the site itself as it casts TN in a bad light being associated with such a pathetic excuse for a website/site owner.
[u]Well “The Travesty” continues…[/u] and now [u]the latest[/u] from backpatters.com :
Only 99 votes says it all
The result of the DCPC poll has demonstrated to me again the impossible task in trying to unite drivers, even when it is something for their own benefit.
For over 2 years Truckersworld has been the very lonely voice in opposition to the implementation of this DCPC, many members have assisted and helped in unity trying to bring about change, but the small numbers involved have very little chance of bringing about change without far more support.
We must therefore with regret accept this DCPC with all its flaws and faults and rising cost and again be seen as a workforce that can be walked over. MPs, MEPs, Europe and this Government can throw anything at us knowing drivers in the UK will not protest. What will be next?
A protest may or may not have helped to bring this into further talks or consultation to improve its present implementation, we will never know. We have tried and failed to bring it about and now we can only sit back and watch in the future how the cost will rise year on year and more stupid pointless modules be introduced at the whim of MPs.
Truckersworld also wanted to look to the future and could read ahead that the protest was failing to gain the support to be able to go ahead, and so I took a decision to try and help some drivers gain their DQC at an acceptable cost.
This initial concept brought about “assumptions” and “accusations” which made it fail even before any details could be put forward to prove its viability. This mis-trust made many drivers “doubt” and so the vote in favour and support was damaged and again without the support from many more needed to make it viable, it has also made it impossible to move forward in this direction.
We cannot achieve the impossible.
I will apologies to those members who have given Truckersworld their support and wanted to help and join us in protest, or to accept the offer of cheap dcpc courses, we have let you down but I cannot continue to put time, energy and cost into something that unfortunately only a few seem to want.
The only losers in this are “Drivers”
The winners are the many reading this poll and threads, those who wanted TW to fail.
The Government, The DSA, JAUPT, The FTA, The RHA, Trainers, RBI, Trucknet, plus others with monetary interest, will all be clapping their hands to be able to continue pushing forward this DCPC and their DCPC courses without any worry of protest or any competition in price structure.
Some will consider it another win over TW for their own gain or merit without any consideration for others.
Some took an opportunity to kick me and truckersworld when we considered the protest, then those same ones and more kicked me again when we offered an alternative in cheap courses trying to help some drivers. I now have no doubt those same ones and more will now kick me again and stick the knife in my back for posting we have given up.Those of you who could not be bothered or considered no point in the poll or in supporting one of the actions, please do not come on this forum in a years time complaining about rising cost, or new modules, or the problems you are having in getting cheap courses. We have done all we can in offering you the opportunity to unite and show some back bone and if it failed, then to put two fingers up to it by getting cheap courses.
The DCPC is now unfortunately your problem. I will do no more.
We have many more issues in our profession and I can now put more time and effort into these.
Again my apology for letting down those valued members who have stood by me and truckersworld, helped in writing to MPs and supported actions in protest to bring about meetings and get some points in the trucking news. Those Drivers can hold their head high and at least say “We tried”.
What a complete ■■■■■■■ joke this guy is. Blames everyone but himself for his own failings. As evidenced above, he already had the support needed to go ahead with the DCPC course for cheap monies but took his bat and ball home and pulled the plug on it when he received a few negative comments that didn’t agree with his own personal agenda. Perhaps if he stopped taking everything so personally and stopped moving the goal posts every 5 seconds people might have shown some more support and a modicum of respect for what he was attempting to do. As it is he’s just a pathetic timewaster that can’t make his mind up whether he wants a ■■■■ or a haircut.
Note to admin: as he has made a point of blaming this site for his failings I think it’s fair game to comment on it here.
Having read the posts on tw i was gutted that only 99 drivers bothered to vote. as for rob k your comments are typical of the i’m alright jack attitude that has kept drivers split. i wonder if tn are offering their members any sort of help towards this travesty. I thought not rob, you are quick to slag off a man that ried to do something to better the drivers lot. well the only losers are drivers who needed it, thanks to peole like you you have succeeded in kicking fellow drivers and making us all look like a bunch of knuckledraggers.
I know that people who have no real interest in transport were watching that site and could not believe the comments being posted. they thought it was a joke. could your average driver really be that thick. yes is the answer. I hope the current training providers jack their prices back up to £1500.00 for the course. we deserve all we get. how can anyone have respect for the knuckle heads who thought it was to cheap. as from now on i will treat visiting drivers with the contempt they deserve. elf & safety everytime.
mavrick:
Having read the posts on tw i was gutted that only 99 drivers bothered to vote. as for rob k your comments are typical of the i’m alright jack attitude that has kept drivers split. i wonder if tn are offering their members any sort of help towards this travesty. I thought not rob, you are quick to slag off a man that ried to do something to better the drivers lot. well the only losers are drivers who needed it, thanks to peole like you you have succeeded in kicking fellow drivers and making us all look like a bunch of knuckledraggers.
I know that people who have no real interest in transport were watching that site and could not believe the comments being posted. they thought it was a joke. could your average driver really be that thick. yes is the answer. I hope the current training providers jack their prices back up to £1500.00 for the course. we deserve all we get. how can anyone have respect for the knuckle heads who thought it was to cheap. as from now on i will treat visiting drivers with the contempt they deserve. elf & safety everytime.
Another one that has reading issues…
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well, well , well the RHA,FTA, AND AND THE REST OF THE LEACHES WILL NOT BE PLEASED ABOUT THIS, it has torpedoed a nice little earner for them ,good look to mr tozer
I only read first post , I thought it was to good to be true,I still think it is a rip off and a nice little earner for all who provide the course, how good is it for the RHA the company well in most cases get the driver to pay for it , and in some cases I have heard of lone the dope the money with intrest to pay, safety poa and all the rest of it dont make me laugh.
fuse:
I only read first post , I thought it was to good to be true,I still think it is a rip off and a nice little earner for all who provide the course, how good is it for the RHA the company well in most cases get the driver to pay for it , and in some cases I have heard of lone the dope the money with intrest to pay, safety poa and all the rest of it dont make me laugh.
Why have you bothered replying then as your post makes no sense.
Your right there Rob K got my words mixed up it must be dickslexya or something, DCPC is still a rip off ,why not campaign for a cut in driver hours ,that will do more for safety.
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Rob K:
delboytwo:
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Major…
…moment. 
I think it was over something that happened in the legal forum.
i put my name in the hat for the cheap course and got banned
i went on again typed the my password and none of it was accepted.
I have no doubt at all that some drivers and company owners will obtain the whole 35 hours of DCPC attendance never having stepped in a class room. There are now over a 1100 trainers/tutors most who have never even seen the inside of a HGV and are interested in the money only.
Therefore if a course is run on a Saturday morning with say 5 drivers on it who is to know if an extra 5 names are added to the uploads eh?
Come on get real, once the clock is run down on this attend only waste of time, providers who want to make a quick buck will be accepting cash to upload ghost drivers on courses that never take place. £100 for uploading 35 hours yeap it will happen somewhere.
jessicas dad:
i put my name in the hat for the cheap course and got bannedi went on again typed the my password and none of it was accepted.
LMAO ! Sounds about right for Tozer…
jessicas dad:
i put my name in the hat for the cheap course and got bannedi went on again typed the my password and none of it was accepted.
You posted on there only shortly before posting this pack of lies 
Still anything just to try and discredit TW, the truth does not really matter
Honesty is a virtue 
jessicas dad Post subject: Re: It’s a dirty job …Posted: 23 Aug 2011 06:53 pm
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Location: leeds west yorkshire ive heard you started a new job timmbo. good luck with that and i would love a diary from that one
Banquo:
I have no doubt at all that some drivers and company owners will obtain the whole 35 hours of DCPC attendance never having stepped in a class room. There are now over a 1100 trainers/tutors most who have never even seen the inside of a HGV and are interested in the money only.Therefore if a course is run on a Saturday morning with say 5 drivers on it who is to know if an extra 5 names are added to the uploads eh?
Come on get real, once the clock is run down on this attend only waste of time, providers who want to make a quick buck will be accepting cash to upload ghost drivers on courses that never take place. £100 for uploading 35 hours yeap it will happen somewhere.
when it does happen let me know,im up for a quick cash fix for a trainer in exchange for a dcpc card…
johnno:
jessicas dad:
i put my name in the hat for the cheap course and got bannedi went on again typed the my password and none of it was accepted.
You posted on there only shortly before posting this pack of lies
Still anything just to try and discredit TW, the truth does not really matter
Honesty is a virtue
jessicas dad Post subject: Re: It’s a dirty job …Posted: 23 Aug 2011 06:53 pm
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005 09:02 pm
Posts: 190
Location: leeds west yorkshire ive heard you started a new job timmbo. good luck with that and i would love a diary from that one
thats right jonny / johnno whatever your called ■■■■■■■■ i thought i would give it a try again and found i could log on this time, as my passwords are the same it must have been a glitch with truckersworld.
i dont need to try and discredit t/world cos its just a big pile of zb of a site anyway the diary forum is the only decent bit and timmbo doe’s some cracking diarys.
so mind your own business and ■■■■ off.
jessicas dad:
johnno:
jessicas dad:
i put my name in the hat for the cheap course and got bannedi went on again typed the my password and none of it was accepted.
You posted on there only shortly before posting this pack of lies
Still anything just to try and discredit TW, the truth does not really matter
Honesty is a virtue
jessicas dad Post subject: Re: It’s a dirty job …Posted: 23 Aug 2011 06:53 pm
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005 09:02 pm
Posts: 190
Location: leeds west yorkshire ive heard you started a new job timmbo. good luck with that and i would love a diary from that onethats right jonny / johnno whatever your called [zb]. i thought i would give it a try again and found i could log on this time, as my passwords are the same it must have been a glitch with truckersworld.
i dont need to try and discredit t/world cos its just a big pile of zb of a site anyway the diary forum is the only decent bit and timmbo doe’s some cracking diarys.
so mind your own business and [zb] off.
So it was a glitch and not a banning
Why did you post you were banned after you discovered it was a glitch then 
and knew full well you were not banned.
Not an honest bone in your body, simple.
and for aig pile of zb you keep going on there 190 post to date.
you just want to sound good on TN , ■■■■■
Wasn’t “johnno” already outed on here by someone as being Tozer himself? I vaguely seem to recall it was Pat who made the discovery
Rob K:
Wasn’t “johnno” already outed on here by someone as being Tozer himself? I vaguely seem to recall it was Pat who made the discovery
Yep…no agendas myself but…hi Baz. And valid points…er…johnno.
