Ross v stobart:
MESSAGE in reply to above comment- FROM Ross vs Stobarts…FRIEND, A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO WORKS NORMAL HOURS AND GETS TO GO HOME AND SEE MY FAMILY…
( hopefully ross vs stobart will not be too upset at my post to his thread, but he did stay logged-in on my PC )…Thankfully my brain has not been contorted
Are you sure…? 
Ross v stobart:
"…Thankfully my brain has not been contorted due to massive work hours, .
Are you sure ?
Seriously, I’m sure I don’t need to explain “Trolling” to you, so I suggest you stop doing it or we will have to use the tools available to us to make sure you stop.
Ross v stobart:
“I wonder why you find you are constantly surrounded by aggressive drivers.”
MESSAGE in reply to above comment- FROM Ross vs Stobarts…FRIEND, A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO WORKS NORMAL HOURS AND GETS TO GO HOME AND SEE MY FAMILY…
( hopefully ross vs stobart will not be too upset at my post to his thread, but he did stay logged-in on my PC )…Thankfully my brain has not been contorted due to massive work hours, so here is a rational and fair reply to the above comment posted by The Sargent,… Anyone who says he is PLACID and virtually horizontal, OBVIOUSLY IS NOT if a threat of being “clipped around the ear”, is an answer to opinions that are either not agreed with or not liked… BUT IT IS NOT the seargents FAULT, he is obviously overworked… Here is my take on AGGRESSIVE drivers from experience gained over the years. When I was a lot younger i worked as a drivers mate for several days, besides the problem of trying to keep my eyes open on 15 hour shifts the biggest thing I remember was the human EXCREMENET inside the cab, the smell will stay with me forever. I never went into a cab again. I have three friends who are all HGV drivers who ALL work massive hours to earn a wage that they should earn on a 48hr week. In my opinion driving HGV’S is a skilled job which requires constant alertness and this should be reflected in the pay, HGV drivers are underpaid and overworked. My three HGV driving friends are ALL divorced and the majority of their life is spent sat inside a cab. Several years ago I went on an employment retraining course and two of my fellow students were both LONG TERM ex HGV drivers looking to get out, one had “vibration white finger” and could hardly use his hands due to decades of heavy driving and the other had “carpal tunnel syndrome” which he also blamed on long hard driving. Several months ago in my car I was at a junction taking a right, there was a HGV parked up on double yellow lines and totally blocking my view even after nudging right out into the road I could still not see and all the time the driver was sat in his cab smirking. Because I was so annoyed I simply shook my head at the driver in disgust, what followed then will remain with me just like the EXCREMENT incident all those years ago… The driver got out of his cab and started running towards me, luckily at that moment I could take the right and I drove off, after several feet and a clear road ahead I looked in my rear view mirror and to my amazement the HGV driver was running in the middle of the road waving his arms above his head towards me, he was almost foaming at the mouth. The road was clear ahead and I just drove off looking at this aggressive overworked Looney from my rear view mirror getting smaller and smaller the further I got away, he was definitely baying for blood. Finally my sister was married to a HGV driver who earned good money but had to put immense hours in to earn it, she never saw him and the small amount of time she did he was absolutely knackered and almost always wound up, after five years of this they were divorced. It is a shame because it was not his fault but in my opinion the fault of the employers for not paying a wage that reflects the job and instead forcing drivers into long hours for a decent wage. I WOULD BE ANGRY ALSO…
Yawn…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz… Too long & can’t be botherd…
I’m not fussed either way I’d rather be at work earning it than sat here listening to the in’s and out’s on what happened on hollyoaks when she watched it tonight. Sometimes I feel like picking the keys up and going back!
Is this the return of Ady?
switchlogic:
Is this the return of Ady?
Sound’s like It could be…
Take the food off the table .
That’s it,guys.
I’m getting deported to the third world.
Hello Honolulu.
Going where its sunny.
Enjoy.
End if thread.
no -its not the end until we say it is .
I’m gonna point my children at this thread and put it under the title of “why some people should only be kept alive to be organ donors, and don’t do drugs kids”.
the maoster:
I’m gonna point my children at this thread and put it under the title of “why some people should only be kept alive to be organ donors, and don’t do drugs kids”.
That’s a but such isn’t it.
If you want to bring organ donation into this.
Remember this,it was a tired hgv driver that crashed into the back of a car killing the female driver.
The ladies organs saved the life of 3 people.
The driver was described by witness as behaving like his head was in the clouds with the fairies
The police said he had 12 seconds to react.
The court narrowed it down to 7 seconds.
Could you react in that time.
Or are you faster.
Ask your children that.
“they didn’t show that on trucks and trailers did they”
switchlogic:
Is this the return of Ady?
no, bastista whatever his name is.
Ross v stobart:
That’s a but such isn’t it.
If you want to bring organ donation into this.
Remember this,it was a tired hgv driver that crashed into the back of a car killing the female driver.
The ladies organs saved the life of 3 people.The driver was described by witness as behaving like his head was in the clouds with the fairies
The police said he had 12 seconds to react.
The court narrowed it down to 7 seconds.Could you react in that time.
Or are you faster.
Ask your children that.
“they didn’t show that on trucks and trailers did they”
I’m going to give you a bit of leeway here as English obviously isn’t your first language, and as such I salute your efforts to learn our language and to integrate.
However, I will readily admit to being a tired HGV driver.
Tired of reading the non stop flow of drivel you keep producing !
the maoster:
Ross v stobart:
However, I will readily admit to being a tired HGV driver…Tired of reading the non stop flow of drivel you keep producing !
I couldn’t agree more. He’ll love to know that I did 13 hours today, handballing sacks of flour-proper olde worlde trucking. 
(Even though I was double shifting)
Started at 03:30, tipped in Excel in London by seven, spent five hours on break, loaded Enfield 13:45 to 14:30 (back door tip so sat in the cab), drove two hours to a layby on the A4 near Theale, had two pints in a pub, replied to this and will be tucked up in bed by ten. Such a hard life, tramping AND, I’m still laid back 
You seem to have missed the original point.
Which was day cab drivers won’t normally be parked up for 5 hours and two in,a layby.
I ain’t nothing against trampers.
I just thought that day cab drivers shouldn’t have,to work more,than 12 hours(duty)
I understand it won’t happen.
I think the transport industry is to complicated.
It would be difficult to achieve for planners.
And drivers would earn less.
So its a bad idea.
That’s why I think the UK shouldn’t be in the working time directive.
Drivers should be excluded so they can work even more if they wish and earn as much as they can.
That’s the,spirit isn’t it.
Hope you enjoyed your pint.
Hey you know I was talking to a tramper today , he was telling me he has worked 18years for the,same company.
A true Yorkshire man.
Tough as leather,he told me he has had his share of disciplinary over this and that.
I asked him what he thought about tramping and the way the job is.
His answer unfortunately was the jobs gone downhill,and he agreed drivers themselves have sold themselves out.
Drivers could have worked less hours and would have been paid more.
Its a fact.
I wasn’t here to flag of personally any driver
Driveling driver,
Oh my that’s different.
Thankyou for your input.
Warning.
You may be suffering from fatigue,
Symptom, unable to accept reality.
Good luck.
Clean your mirrors.
ok fair point…next