I thought you’d finished with this thread? Well, I have anyway, goodbye.
Don’t forget to empty the dishwasher.
I had finished it because I thought it wasn’t a topic that was,going to achieve anything.
I think there is a issue with drivers working times.
I had an interest from getting dragged into a situation.
I noticed most places I work,they were like trampers hours.
Felt tired out,
I’m pretty tough and I’ve done many types of driving,I’m not a steering wheel attendant.
I just thought that its bad to do long hours and little rest.
Its ok sometimes,but it seems to be all the time,well it did.
71 hours in 5 days, full pelt.
Every week, 15 hours @3days and,13@2 days.
By Friday you was knackered,flat out.
Are you aware that drivers regularly work like,that.
I mean are you seriously saying or suggesting that those hours are acceptable.
■■?
Bet you think its not bad ,cuz you can have,a,rest when your hand balling (exercise time)
Or
■■■■■■■ pallets (the gym)
Taking notes,office,checking for defects,(socialising)
Sounds like a holiday,
Mmmmmmmmmm bet you loved pontins 
Can I have some of what you’re on?? you look like you are having a brilliant time and I want to be where you are.
good old planet earth.
When you’ve fell from wherever your floating don’t worry vosa will catch you. 
I’m going to give you a bit of leeway here as English obviously isn’t your first language, and as such I salute your efforts to learn our language and to integrate.However, I will readily admit to being a tired HGV driver.
sorry about my spelling, fingers like thumbs,
I have to admit I have been tired after a 15 working three fifteens and two thirteen hour shifts.
I don’t mind sometimes, but it can be most times.
As long as you can get around 6 to 7 hours proper rest then its sorted.
I did a national c p c a few years ago and passed the first two modules, I failed the case study.
Part of the course that I passed was a test on the planning of a monthly route for 3 drivers who have different runs and delivery times,
You had to organise the drivers to remain legal,(driver break-working time)
It should be possible to limit day cab drivers to 12 hours
Obviously there will be times when the driver cant make it back within 12 hours,
The driver would actually be on duty for 12.75 hours so would have an extra 45 minutes after the 12 hours,taking the driver to almost thirteen hours.
The working time regulations state that no worker shall work more than 12 hours.
none day cab drivers would not be effected as they could still work 3 @15 hours and 3@13 hours.(more if you remove the card)
I spoke to a driver recently who had worked 22 hours in one shift,
He was on 7 pounds an hour.
I suppose desperate times require desperate measures, and the U K likes a flexible workforce.
I still think there has got to be a lot of down time , so as to reduce the working time down so it averages 48.
If you do 12 hours every day for 5 days and 6 days then in a day cab its all go most of the time.
none day cab drivers the night out sleeper cab.
That seems to be split into long time sleeper drivers, long haul national and international.
Some sleeper cab drivers seem to split into the role of day delivery, a bit like day cab drivers
Its varied to say the least.
Even if the law isn’t going to change the limit on 12 hours in a none sleeper cab, employers could take it on board when planning work for day cab drivers.
Driving is impaired from fatigue (tired)
Don’t make that dead line a headline.
I’m going to give you a bit of leeway here as English obviously isn’t your first language, and as such I salute your efforts to learn our language and to integrate.However, I will readily admit to being a tired HGV driver.
sorry about my spelling, fingers like thumbs,
I have to admit I have been tired after a 15 working three fifteens and two thirteen hour shifts.
I don’t mind sometimes, but it can be most times.
As long as you can get around 6 to 7 hours proper rest then its sorted.
I did a national c p c a few years ago and passed the first two modules, I failed the case study.
Part of the course that I passed was a test on the planning of a monthly route for 3 drivers who have different runs and delivery times,
You had to organise the drivers to remain legal,(driver break-working time)
It should be possible to limit day cab drivers to 12 hours
Obviously there will be times when the driver cant make it back within 12 hours,
The driver would actually be on duty for 12.75 hours so would have an extra 45 minutes after the 12 hours,taking the driver to almost thirteen hours.
The working time regulations state that no worker shall work more than 12 hours.
none day cab drivers would not be effected as they could still work 3 @15 hours and 3@13 hours.(more if you remove the card)
I spoke to a driver recently who had worked 22 hours in one shift,
He was on 7 pounds an hour.
I suppose desperate times require desperate measures, and the U K likes a flexible workforce.
I still think there has got to be a lot of down time , so as to reduce the working time down so it averages 48.
If you do 12 hours every day for 5 days and 6 days then in a day cab its all go most of the time.
none day cab drivers the night out sleeper cab.
That seems to be split into long time sleeper drivers, long haul national and international.
Some sleeper cab drivers seem to split into the role of day delivery, a bit like day cab drivers
Its varied to say the least.
Even if the law isn’t going to change the limit on 12 hours in a none sleeper cab, employers could take it on board when planning work for day cab drivers.
Driving is impaired from fatigue (tired)
Don’t make that dead line a headline.
“The drugs don’t work,
They just make you worse…”
Driver starts work at 6 am and works till 9 pm ( 15 hours)
Driver takes 1 hour to leave site and travel home.
Driver spends 2 hours with family and retires at 12 pm. the driver is required to have a reduced his rest by working 15 hours and has to be back at work at 6 am.
The driver has to wake up at 5 am to be at work for 6 am ,in all the driver has had about 5 hours sleep if they were lucky’
If the driver works for 15 hours on day 1 day 2 day 3 then during day 3 the driver will have worked for 43 hours and may have had as little as 10 hours of sleep.
Not to mention the driver may then work up to 3 other days at 13 hours.
Its much better for none day cab drivers as 9 reduced hours is reasonable.
Muckaway:
“The drugs don’t work,
They just make you worse…”
Why do you take them then.
You sound like you have a bit of a problem there,
You should contact a helpline if you think that the drugs your taking are making you fee worse.
This forum isn’t really the place.
Well I didn’t think so
Your going to have to go to rehab
Ross v stobart:
I never went into a cab again.
Clearly a troll who’s not very good at remembering what he’s written. A driver in some posts yet never stepped in a cab again after being a drivers mate in a cab smelling of EXCREMENT…(his capitals)
If you no these drives that are doing those hours and your so against it report them, it your duty as a professional drive that you say you are to do it.
And can you show me legal proof that says we can only do 12 hours a day
You come on here tell us how bad it is working long hours and now your doing just that, I thing you need to review your own posts before you confirm that you are a troll and have nothing better to do with your time
Note to administration its about time this guy goes. As e as nothing more to say than junk
End of my rant get of and go to sleep you so call tired troll 
:t 
wisted:
Drivers are their own worst enemies, but when all this 48hour bullstein came about 
to protect them from unscrupulous hauliers 
who you’ve worked for 
please name me one haulier who is going to pay £20 an hour? 
hence that’s why POA came about! The industry is Donald DUCKED! ENDEX! I take it you never worked a sixth shift to do 84 hours! Mmmmmmmmm I can smell your excrement, dribbling from your lips! verbal diarrhoea!
I don’t understand what you mean
do you mean you were driving inside a cab that was smelly or did it actually have sh@ in it ■■?
I like a clean environment, clean cab, don’t eat in it, just for driving, I don’t have breaks in it, prefer the café or services at a table.
I did actually fine some poop on the cat walk once,
I wasn’t impressed,
I asked a manager to remove it, he disappeared.
I asked some one to jet wash it.
In the end I poured detergent onto the bio hazard.
explain that one to the customer
I am sure I have something at home about a maximum 12 hours,
I have this for now
Working time
Regulation 4.–(1) Subject to paragraph (2) below, the working time, including overtime, of a mobile worker shall not exceed 60 hours in a week.
So 5 days at 12 hours is 60 hours
Ten pound an hour for 12 hours would be about right.
A sixty hour working week with built in P O A with all trucks set to default to rest.
Ross v stobart:
I am sure I have something at home about a maximum 12 hours,
I have this for now
Working time
Regulation 4.–(1) Subject to paragraph (2) below, the working time, including overtime, of a mobile worker shall not exceed 60 hours in a week.So 5 days at 12 hours is 60 hours
Ten pound an hour for 12 hours would be about right.
A sixty hour working week with built in P O A with all trucks set to default to rest.
That as not proven your statement of 12 hours a day
Also breaks and poa are not counted for rtd but you know that
Ross v stobart:
I don’t understand what you mean
do you mean you were driving inside a cab that was smelly or did it actually have sh@ in it ■■?
I like a clean environment, clean cab, don’t eat in it, just for driving, I don’t have breaks in it, prefer the café or services at a table.
I did actually fine some poop on the cat walk once,
I wasn’t impressed,
I asked a manager to remove it, he disappeared.
I asked some one to jet wash it.
In the end I poured detergent onto the bio hazard.
explain that one to the customer
And so my point is proved. 0/10 for trolling
If the regulations state that no person shall work more than 60 hours, including overtime, then don’t you think that whoever specified as such,obviously meant total 60 including P O A
Otherwise including overtime would not have been mentioned.
Sixty hours including overtime and periods of availability.
Minus legal breaks.
That’s how it would legally be interpreted I’m sure.
You wouldn’t normally have much poa
Although you may have more if your tramping.
Most people work 5 days then divide 60 by 5 equals 60 hours.
I am sure I read that no mobile worker shall work more than 12 hours in a day.
Ill check it out.
Anyhow if the day cab driver works 12 hours and .75 break that nearly 13 hours so they’re going to have the 11 off is that was the case.
Its simple if its a day cab there should be no mistake,the driver should only be sensibly planned for twelve hours.
Oh and my son says a troll is a monster, mind you don’t wake leviathan with all your trolling nonsense.
Ross v stobart:
Oh and my son says a troll is a monster, mind you don’t wake leviathan with all your trolling nonsense.
Your son doesn’t use forums much does he?
My son plays FIFA 2013 far,to much and football for his local club and jogging and 5 a side on the,astro to busy and young for a forum I think.
I won’t be staying around for long.
I only wanted to get an idea of what drivers thought of there,hours,and if they were concerned of tired from rest and long hours.
I didn’t want to offend anyone.
We’ve all got tough jobs.
Its a long story but I’ve known of loads of families,marriages,stress breakups,all sorts, from people working excessively
I don’t work such long hours anymore,I think 48 to 60 is enough.
You know drivers working such long hours prevents other workers from finding work.
.