many drivers don’t want to sit at exactly 40mph on a road that is safe enough to go 50 on, some find it rather boring sitting behind a goody 2 shoes doing the same speed for mile after mile.
If it had been me I would have given you the nescafe sign as I drove past, it’s drivers like you who cause accidents by frustrating the very long queue of cars and trucks behind you.
Some of us drivers have been driving a very long time and can judge the speed that a road can be driven along and don’t want to be stuck behind some fanny who takes the law so seriously.
A days work can be long enough without some fanny making it longer by travelling for forty or fifty miles at 40mph, if you want to drive at the speed limit go drive a bus
Okey-Didley-Dokely:
many drivers don’t want to sit at exactly 40mph on a road that is safe enough to go 50 on, some find it rather boring sitting behind a goody 2 shoes doing the same speed for mile after mile.
If it had been me I would have given you the nescafe sign as I drove past, it’s drivers like you who cause accidents by frustrating the very long queue of cars and trucks behind you.
Some of us drivers have been driving a very long time and can judge the speed that a road can be driven along and don’t want to be stuck behind some fanny who takes the law so seriously.
A days work can be long enough without some fanny making it longer by travelling for forty or fifty miles at 40mph, if you want to drive at the speed limit go drive a bus
Then there is the other side of the coin.
Those responsible, safe & legal drivers who took on the job knowing the rules that come with it and continue to follow those safe principals much to the frustration of those who are determined to invoke thier own set of rules.
Okey-Didley-Dokely:
many drivers don’t want to sit at exactly 40mph on a road that is safe enough to go 50 on, some find it rather boring sitting behind a goody 2 shoes doing the same speed for mile after mile.
If it had been me I would have given you the nescafe sign as I drove past, it’s drivers like you who cause accidents by frustrating the very long queue of cars and trucks behind you.
Some of us drivers have been driving a very long time and can judge the speed that a road can be driven along and don’t want to be stuck behind some fanny who takes the law so seriously.
A days work can be long enough without some fanny making it longer by travelling for forty or fifty miles at 40mph, if you want to drive at the speed limit go drive a bus
Then there is the other side of the coin.
Those responsible, safe & legal drivers who took on the job knowing the rules that come with it and continue to follow those safe principals much to the frustration of those who are determined to invoke thier own set of rules.
Okey-Didley-Dokely:
many drivers don’t want to sit at exactly 40mph on a road that is safe enough to go 50 on, some find it rather boring sitting behind a goody 2 shoes doing the same speed for mile after mile.
If it had been me I would have given you the nescafe sign as I drove past, it’s drivers like you who cause accidents by frustrating the very long queue of cars and trucks behind you.
Some of us drivers have been driving a very long time and can judge the speed that a road can be driven along and don’t want to be stuck behind some fanny who takes the law so seriously.
A days work can be long enough without some fanny making it longer by travelling for forty or fifty miles at 40mph, if you want to drive at the speed limit go drive a bus
Then there is the other side of the coin.
Those responsible, safe & legal drivers who took on the job knowing the rules that come with it and continue to follow those safe principals much to the frustration of those who are determined to invoke thier own set of rules.
I’ve got a good idea …
Get the php code to auto delete any more discussions of speed on single carriageways etc…
It’s been done to death , must be at least a thread or two on it every week.
Some people will probably say “well don’t read it then”
Well I’m not going to anymore which means pretty much ■■■■ all else to read around here.
here here paul@midway couldnt agree more this topic has been done to death. By the way Noodles not everyone wants to stick at 40 mph like you, If you saw a 5 mile que behind you would you pull over for a minute to let the traffic safely past, or do you think stuff em its a 40 and thats what im doing, i think it would probably be the latter, idiot.
Suits me, put my name at the top of the list! Happy now? Thought not. Can’t please all the people all of the time. Live and let live. Its all give and take in the real world. Some people just make an error of judgement? You ever done that?
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I think all of us have made an error of judgement but not when it could be a danger to life…I dont see why my wife and kids should live without me when some idiot trucker who cant stick to the speed limit endangers your life…is it worth it really??
I think when it comes down to it, there are drivers who quite simply don’t want to break the law. For whatever reason.
Then there are those like me, who will KNOW the laws, but are prepared to break them, again for whatever reason that might be.
And then there are those that CLAIM to know the law, but quite clearly dont know 50% otherwise they would do 50mph on a dual carrigeway. And speedo deflection doesnt count cos its the same speedo at 40mph as it is at 53 etc…
A few weeks ago in the car after following a (British) wide load for an hour I finally found space to overtake him north of Agen. Unfortunately this briefly took my speed to 99 km/hr, 9 over the limit, just as I passed a camera. My first points in 20 odd years.
So, since then I have been determined not to repeat the experience and going up the N10 around Ruffec a couple of weeks later I am sitting on 110 as I start to overtake 2 wagons, a Spaniard then a Belgian. Since I retired I don’t run this road regularly and forgot about the impending drop to 90 for a few kms because of crossing roads and so, after completing the manoeuvre I adjusted my speed accordingly. I realise that this annoyed the Belgian but then as he was supposed to drop to 80 shouldn’t have been impeded. Despite this and despite the ban on trucks overtaking he drove right up to my rear end, lights flashing and horns blaring, before swinging out to pass and then cut me up. The Spaniard followed but less dramatically. Just after they passed we saw the gendarmes behind a tree with the ‘jumelles’, the binocular radar, and so both stood on the anchors. As I saw past them what they had seen I was able to pull out to pass again without altering my 90km/hr progress.
Couldn’t believe it but as soon as this happened the Belgian speeded up again and repassed with a repeat of his previous ‘son et lumiere’ and aggressive cutting in. He then seemed to realise that the ‘flics’ may have radioed ahead to stop him so he dived into the services.
I don’t mind his breaking the 90 limit it is too slow anyway, I don’t mind him breaking the 80 limit as I disapprove of differential speed limits as dangerous, I don’t even mind his breaking the overtaking ban as again it is an unneccessary differential. But why oh why direct his anger towards me just because I don’t want more points? Road rage exists in all nationalities.
Funny sequel to this was when Fran started laughing beside me. ‘What?’ I said. Apparently when I shouted with joy on seeing the radar trap I immediately realised that if they didn’t stop him straight away they wouldn’t pursue him to Belgium and then followed with ‘foreign swine’
or words to that effect - there was no autocensor in the car
Okey-Didley-Dokely:
many drivers don’t want to sit at exactly 40mph on a road that is safe enough to go 50 on, some find it rather boring sitting behind a goody 2 shoes doing the same speed for mile after mile.
If it had been me I would have given you the nescafe sign as I drove past, it’s drivers like you who cause accidents by frustrating the very long queue of cars and trucks behind you.
Some of us drivers have been driving a very long time and can judge the speed that a road can be driven along and don’t want to be stuck behind some fanny who takes the law so seriously.
I know what your saying id like to go faster but why on earth am i going to risk getting points just so you or someone else can get some where qiucker, Anyway i must have missed the part in the highway code about driving 50 on a single road?? maybe you can point it out......But then its drivers like you that cause death!
Slow down or you may kill yourself or someone else…
A days work can be long enough without some fanny making it longer by travelling for forty or fifty miles at 40mph, if you want to drive at the speed limit go drive a bus
What is the reaction of those that wish to speed when they come up behind one doing 40 with little or no place to overtake for miles.
Is it - Oh dear, never mind, it’s just one of those things, I might as well hang well back and enjoy the scenery. A sort of relaxed view.
OR
Is it - [ZB], [ZB], [ZB] - can’t the git drive properly, i’ll get up it’s rear to show displeasure, rant non stop with blood pressure rising. A sort of ‘blowing a gasket’ view.
I think this says more about the driver who wants to speed - the attitude.
It’s one thing to be illegal but another to be unsafe - IMO, a bad attitude usually makes for an unsafe driver.
ROG:
It’s one thing to be illegal but another to be unsafe - IMO, a bad attitude usually makes for an unsafe driver.
Agreed ROG. We all have our excuses for breaking any sort of rules, and then moan when we get caught out.
In 2001, I had a speeding ticket (car) as I was rushing to get home to start an early. I knew I was over the speed limit and was slowing down for the camera but didnt reaise quite how much over the limit I was. Anyway, bad judgement on my part and so I now stick to the limits, and heres the excuse bit, when it is detrimental to others. i.e built up areas, junctions, roundabouts etc…
I can’t grasp why there are limits on long stretches of road where visibility is good and there are minimal amounts of hazards.
If caught speeding in an LGV can the culprit be sent on a speed awareness course?
Anyone been on a speed awareness course?
If so did you fell it worth while and informative?
Speeding in urban areas is a pet hate of mine. Most drivers on the speed courses have been caught in urban areas. Most of them in the town/city they know and live in. Imust point out many of those on a course have been caught a few mph over the limit and are not in themselves serial speeders.
As Rog points out those with attitude are the risk takers (serial speeders and high risk drivers)
ROG:
What is the reaction of those that wish to speed when they come up behind one doing 40 with little or no place to overtake for miles.
Is it - Oh dear, never mind, it’s just one of those things, I might as well hang well back and enjoy the scenery. A sort of relaxed view.
OR
Is it - [ZB], [ZB], [ZB] - can’t the git drive properly, i’ll get up it’s rear to show displeasure, rant non stop with blood pressure rising. A sort of ‘blowing a gasket’ view.
I think this says more about the driver who wants to speed - the attitude.
It’s one thing to be illegal but another to be unsafe - IMO, a bad attitude usually makes for an unsafe driver.
I’ll admit I rarely stick to the 40mph (depending on circumstances, weather, traffic, etc), however, if I catch up with another truck that’s sitting at 40 I don’t get all excited about it. At the end of the day, it’s his licence, if he doesn’t want to risk it, it’s up to him. I’m actually quite jealous, as he has a lot more patience than me.
chippy:
If caught speeding in an LGV can the culprit be sent on a speed awareness course?
Anyone been on a speed awareness course?
If so did you fell it worth while and informative?
Speeding in urban areas is a pet hate of mine. Most drivers on the speed courses have been caught in urban areas. Most of them in the town/city they know and live in. Imust point out many of those on a course have been caught a few mph over the limit and are not in themselves serial speeders.
As Rog points out those with attitude are the risk takers (serial speeders and high risk drivers)
Right Speed awereness course is only offered to low end speeders.
If caught in a HGV or PSV etc NO you will not get offered the course as the attitude is your a profesional driver
mr bluecity:
here here paul@midway couldnt agree more this topic has been done to death. By the way Noodles not everyone wants to stick at 40 mph like you, If you saw a 5 mile que behind you would you pull over for a minute to let the traffic safely past, or do you think stuff em its a 40 and thats what im doing, i think it would probably be the latter, idiot.
I can’t see any positive gains by ever insulting law-abiders, but there are clearly ‘issues’ to address.
It’s all very well telling a professional to ‘pull-over’ but what when he pulls-out again & some clown in his company motor is ‘making the most’ of a clear bit of road for having some 90mph fun? Respect is the key, perhaps …and here is where the law should earn it.
As society squabbles - what’s the ‘law’ doing? Politicos don’t seem to get hassled as millions of us muppets bicker …so why are those accountable for law making/enforcement not addressing reality…or is the clue that as we boil our heads with few caring for his neighbour & number one is King, our Transport Secretary is getting chased for damned ridiculous nonsense instead of oiling the wheels of reality…?
Okey-Didley-Dokely:
many drivers don’t want to sit at exactly 40mph on a road that is safe enough to go 50 on, some find it rather boring sitting behind a goody 2 shoes doing the same speed for mile after mile.
If it had been me I would have given you the nescafe sign as I drove past, it’s drivers like you who cause accidents by frustrating the very long queue of cars and trucks behind you.
Some of us drivers have been driving a very long time and can judge the speed that a road can be driven along and don’t want to be stuck behind some fanny who takes the law so seriously.
A days work can be long enough without some fanny making it longer by travelling for forty or fifty miles at 40mph, if you want to drive at the speed limit go drive a bus
Then there is the other side of the coin.
Those responsible, safe & legal drivers who took on the job knowing the rules that come with it and continue to follow those safe principals much to the frustration of those who are determined to invoke thier own set of rules.
Boring
Why - please explain
You have all these qualifications, so you think your a little (or a lot) better than most drivers on here.
Where have all these qualifications got you? Unemployed!
It’s boring because of the self righteous answer you gave.
Good driving can’t be learnt or taught, it’s a natural talent.
All an instructor can do is teach someone to pass a test, they can’t teach the skills to really control a large vehicle.
The human condition makes it so we want rto do things differently to one another, I for one don’t want to stick behind a boring driver doing 40 mph on a long straight stretch of road when I can safely overtake, if his lack of expriance, skill or confidence makes him feel he has to brake when the trailer goes past him it’s not my problem.
HGV Class 1
22 years experiance
EMPLOYED CLASS 1 DRIVER
- please explain 
Road rage exists in all nationalities.
