I need some advice please. I work in an office Mon-Fri 37 hours a week (term time only) and every Saturday I drive a 7.5t lorry from 05.45 til about 3pm. Should I be keeping a written record of the office job or does it not count as it’s not driving? 
Thanks x
sammy770:
I need some advice please. I work in an office Mon-Fri 37 hours a week (term time only) and every Saturday I drive a 7.5t lorry from 05.45 til about 3pm. Should I be keeping a written record of the office job or does it not count as it’s not driving?
depends on a few things really like .
do you use a tacho
do you get paid
what sort of work is it
Tachograph or Rog will sort you out
Hi Nick2008 Yes the lorry has a digital tacho, I work for an agency, paid weekly, delivering parcels to couriers.
you come under eu regs then so every other week you should have 45hrs off if working during the week as any other work in the week is classed as other work …
You don’t say what your office hours are but you would need at least 9 hours between finishing in the office Friday and starting on the Saturday morning, chances are you will be getting that.
Every second week between finishing on the Saturday and resuming work in the office on Monday you need a minimum of 45 hours rest. So finishing at 15:00 on the Saturday means not starting work on Monday before mid-day. Given ‘normal’ office hours you are probably starting at 08:00 or 09:00 leaving you 3 or 4 hours short of a regular weekly rest.
Being strictly legal this means you could only work every second Saturday, unless you choose to be ‘creative’ with your manual record keeping. In a week you drive under EU rules you need to keep a record of the office work. The easiest way is by using tacho charts, one for each day and all the information needed is your name, the date and your start and finish times.
Thanks for that. I think I understand now. So if I started later in the office every other Monday that would be ok? And do you mean use the round tacho charts to record the office work rather than do a manual entry on the digital one?
Ooh my office hours are Mon - Thurs 08.30-4.30 (half hour lunch ) and 08.30-4pm Fridays. Term time only 
sammy770:
Thanks for that. I think I understand now. So if I started later in the office every other Monday that would be ok? And do you mean use the round tacho charts to record the office work rather than do a manual entry on the digital one?
Yes, if you could start 45 hours after finishing on the Saturday every second Monday it would work out.
Yeah, easiest way is with the round paper charts, much easier than manual entries for those days.
Ok thanks for the advice 
Or, in the unlikely event that you get pulled by VOSA on a weekend, just tell them that you earn that much on a weekend that you don’t need to work during the week!!!
Claretmac:
Or, in the unlikely event that you get pulled by VOSA on a weekend, just tell them that you earn that much on a weekend that you don’t need to work during the week!!!
yeah that’s sound unless HMRC and DWP are doing checks at the same time
Sammy
Just to ask have you done your DCPC… coz all this would have been explained during the training … Id like to think so…
Yes I have done 35 hours cpc. We covered drivers hours but it was aimed at drivers who drive full time. I wasn’t driving then but I should think if I was driving at the time it would have been pointed out to me.
If you use mydrivinghours.co.uk to help you track your hours (both office and road) it tells you exactly when you can drive again and makes everything really easy.
I buy ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Entry- … 3cd1b245fc these Manual entry charts as I feel bad wasting tachos.
Good luck with it
Thank you. I’ll get a couple of those.
I’m really enjoying driving but hope I won’t be doing 7.5t multidrop for too long, I’m not really built for lots of lifting lol.
sammy770:
Yes I have done 35 hours cpc. We covered drivers hours but it was aimed at drivers who drive full time. I wasn’t driving then but I should think if I was driving at the time it would have been pointed out to me.
That shouldn’t matter … they should of given you the full information, not just skipped through assuming everyone knows the regs …
sammy770:
Thank you. I’ll get a couple of those.
I’m really enjoying driving but hope I won’t be doing 7.5t multidrop for too long, I’m not really built for lots of lifting lol.
Precisely why I went straight for C+E, multi-drop and heavy stuff not my bag! 
If you get hold of a tacho roll for the digi tachos you’ll find tables on the back which you can use to record your office time.
I have an app on my phone with records of my work, both driving and office job. However, in case that isn’t acceptable to VOSA I created a table template laid out identically to the reverse of the tacho roll in MS Word, and I print them out to use instead. It is the same format, same data, so I’m hoping that VOSA will accept this alternative if I’m stopped and my phone records are not admissible.
I thought about printing off my own tables. I am still getting my head around the hours. Seems daft that I have to have 45 hours rest between finishing driving on a Saturday and sitting on my bum in an office on Monday morning, if I was driving on the Monday it would make more sense. If I can only drive every other Saturday that’s halved the amount I can earn. Really annoying. I’m divorced with two teenagers and am trying to do my best to give us a better life , rather than relying on benefits. Although I have to say the government does nothing to encourage single mums to work.
The problem with using sheets knocked up in Word or Excel, using pads of paper bought from ebay, diaries or phone apps is you might get a lenient officer who will accept them but the regulations are very clear on how the records must be made and there are only 4 options.
The record must be either:
written manually on a chart;
written manually on a printout from a digital tachograph;
made by using the manual input facility of a digital tachograph; or
for days where a driver has been subject to the domestic drivers’ hours rules and a record is legally
required recorded in a domestic log book
If you get a by the book officer and if it’s not done in one of those 4 ways, and there are only 3 of those 4 options open to the OP as she doesn’t drive under domestic regs, then you could get a fine of £60.