Are reptilian shapeshifters,immune?
Carryfast:
That was interesting.
Two alternates right there.A noble and informed and in the service to others individual contrasting with a reptoid Goldman/Morgan ex-bankster,sociopathic,lower than a turbots turd slimeball.
Here’s a snapshot dairn unda these days.youtu.be/dyDM7wyPuLc
Carryfast:
That was interesting.
How did that fine fellow manage to get past the minders, politicians on photo ops arn’t supposed to come up against anyone with the wrong opinion, ie one of their own, someone’s had an almighty bollocking or worse for allowing that genuinely decent example of the medical profession through.
Were the cluster around the desk dumbstruck awestruck or hand picked cheerleaders.
stu675:
Franglais:
stu675:
Yes, I agree this claim will never be able to be substantiated with official figures. How can it when official figures overstate the harms from Covid, official policy increased the harms of Covid by refusing treatment. Also, official policy is to hide the harms of the vaccines as well as hiding the harms of the non pharmaceutical interventions (remember that cost benefit analysis they produced on the lockdowns? Me neither).
So we’ll just have to leave it as a claim that I believe.So, we have:
official figures (complete with sources and methodologies)
vs
what you believe
.
And now in order to double down on unsupported (owt?) claims we have:
“official policy increased the harms of Covid by refusing treatment”
and
“official policy is to hide the harms of the vaccines as well as hiding the harms of the non pharmaceutical interventions”
.
Incredible.Yes.
Juddian:
Carryfast:
That was interesting.How did that fine fellow manage to get past the minders, politicians on photo ops arn’t supposed to come up against anyone with the wrong opinion, ie one of their own, someone’s had an almighty bollocking or worse for allowing that genuinely decent example of the medical profession through.
Were the cluster around the desk dumbstruck awestruck or hand picked cheerleaders.
Dr Steve James has just been speaking on BBC R4 Broadcasting House programme. Very interesting. 09hr00 start with him about ten minutes in. Vaccinations mentioned later on in programme later too.
Franglais:
Juddian:
Carryfast:
That was interesting.How did that fine fellow manage to get past the minders, politicians on photo ops arn’t supposed to come up against anyone with the wrong opinion, ie one of their own, someone’s had an almighty bollocking or worse for allowing that genuinely decent example of the medical profession through.
Were the cluster around the desk dumbstruck awestruck or hand picked cheerleaders.Dr Steve James has just been speaking on BBC R4 Broadcasting House programme. Very interesting. 09hr00 start with him about ten minutes in. Vaccinations mentioned later on in programme later too.
Care to respond to your 150,000 deaths lie?
English driver 1970:
Care to respond to your 150,000 deaths lie?
Ive given you more than one response so far. Apparently not one you like? I
ve asked you a question, and repeated it, all to no response.
However, lets see if this meets with any approval from you as a suitable response? I
ll try to point out some detail from the links I`ve already put up.
Yes, the Gov dashboard does mention 150,000 deaths as being within those with a positive test within 28 days.
It also has the figures for those deaths with Covid mentioned on the death certificate… 173,248.
Here is an extract from a link I have previously put up
"Difference between deaths due to COVID-19 and deaths involving COVID-19
We refer to both the number of deaths “due to” COVID-19 and the number of deaths “involving” COVID-19. These are two different numbers.
Deaths due to COVID-19 are those where COVID-19 has been recorded on the death certificate and has subsequently been selected as the underlying cause of death using the rules outlined in “Determining the underlying cause of death” section.
Deaths involving COVID-19 are those where COVID-19 has been recorded anywhere on the death certificate but does not have to be the underlying cause of death. Therefore, deaths due to COVID-19 are a subset of deaths involving COVID-19. Around 90% of deaths involving COVID-19 have COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death.
There are situations in which the deceased had COVID-19 that contributed to the death but was not the underlying cause. For example, if COVID-19 aggravated the consequences of an accident, COVID-19 may be reported in Part 2 of the death certificate (contributory factors). This would be counted in our statistics as a death involving COVID-19 but not a death due to COVID-19."
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
(colour is my addition)
There is no single perfect way of counting Covid deaths.
And you certainly haven`t offered any better ones have you?
English driver 1970:
Currently upto 200,000 positives a day being recorded.
That’s 200,000 people who could die of any cause over the next month….but added to the stats as a COVID death.
Towards the end of January if current daily trends continue, potentially how many so called COVID deaths could we have in February….
Absolutely untrue see above post.
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Care to respond to your 150,000 deaths lie?I
ve given you more than one response so far. Apparently not one you like? I
ve asked you a question, and repeated it, all to no response.However, let
s see if this meets with any approval from you as a suitable response? I
ll try to point out some detail from the links I`ve already put up.
Yes, the Gov dashboard does mention 150,000 deaths as being within those with a positive test within 28 days.
It also has the figures for those deaths with Covid mentioned on the death certificate… 173,248.Here is an extract from a link I have previously put up
"Difference between deaths due to COVID-19 and deaths involving COVID-19
We refer to both the number of deaths “due to” COVID-19 and the number of deaths “involving” COVID-19. These are two different numbers.Deaths due to COVID-19 are those where COVID-19 has been recorded on the death certificate and has subsequently been selected as the underlying cause of death using the rules outlined in “Determining the underlying cause of death” section.
Deaths involving COVID-19 are those where COVID-19 has been recorded anywhere on the death certificate but does not have to be the underlying cause of death. Therefore, deaths due to COVID-19 are a subset of deaths involving COVID-19. Around 90% of deaths involving COVID-19 have COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death.
There are situations in which the deceased had COVID-19 that contributed to the death but was not the underlying cause. For example, if COVID-19 aggravated the consequences of an accident, COVID-19 may be reported in Part 2 of the death certificate (contributory factors). This would be counted in our statistics as a death involving COVID-19 but not a death due to COVID-19."
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
(colour is my addition)There is no single perfect way of counting Covid deaths.
And you certainly haven`t offered any better ones have you?
No……that’s why I would never say 150,000 deaths as you do.
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Currently upto 200,000 positives a day being recorded.
That’s 200,000 people who could die of any cause over the next month….but added to the stats as a COVID death.
Towards the end of January if current daily trends continue, potentially how many so called COVID deaths could we have in February….Absolutely untrue see above post.
It is true and how deaths are reported.
English driver 1970:
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Currently upto 200,000 positives a day being recorded.
That’s 200,000 people who could die of any cause over the next month….but added to the stats as a COVID death.
Towards the end of January if current daily trends continue, potentially how many so called COVID deaths could we have in February….Absolutely untrue see above post.
It is true and how deaths are reported.
You saying; “Oh no it isn`t” repeatedly is becoming like a silly pantomime.
You have despite repeated requests provided no evidence of better data.
Have you bothered reading my links to the ONS figures?
They Do Not Have Access to Covid Test Results.
They have explained this many times.
See if this is clearer for you:
“Counting how many people have sadly died with COVID-19 is not straightforward. Public Health England publishes daily figures for deaths in people with a laboratory-confirmed test for COVID-19. The Office for National Statistics reports deaths where the disease is mentioned on a death certificate. Each method has its own strengths and limitations. You can find both on PHE’s COVID-19 Dashboard and we’ve previously blogged on how we define COVID-19 deaths.”
ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2021/02/08/co … -pandemic/
Follow the links through to the blog for a clear explanation.
You keep on about the Public Health England figures, which I am not referring to.
Please try to explain what your objection to the clearly explained ONS figures are.
I can see that the dashboard that appears on the TV can miss out some Covid deaths but probably not many.
And to address the stuff in red…again…
"The World Health Organization (WHO) recognises this complexity and states that:
A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma)."
Clearly your assertion that
“could die of any cause over the next month….but added to the stats as a COVID death.”
Is wrong, from WHO, and ONS, and PHE, methodologies.
When Whitty or whoever says their piece they dont go into all the fine detail everytime, it
s true. But the detail is there.
The data sets are less than perfect, but since you have offered no better, we are stuck with a set of best guesses.
Ans a kid in the theatre shouting “Oh no it isn`t”, is not much cop either.
Franglais:
[There is no single perfect way of counting Covid deaths.
?
Excess deaths is pretty good.
stu675:
Franglais:
[There is no single perfect way of counting Covid deaths.
?Excess deaths is pretty good.
Pretty good… I’d say about average.
When the NHS is cancelling appointments on a mass scale. So cancer is going undiagnosed. Even people with cancer and other serious medical conditions are getting their surgeries/appointments postponed.
adam277:
Pretty good… I’d say about average.
When the NHS is cancelling appointments on a mass scale. So cancer is going undiagnosed. Even people with cancer and other serious medical conditions are getting their surgeries/appointments postponed.
Over 10 million on the waiting list for ‘non-serious’ surgeries is quite scary. That’s 1 in 5. I myself have had a hernia for a few years, I’ve been postponing treating it due to potential financial issues (no sick pay), now I’ve got some £ for rainy days but unless I go private or abroad there’s no chance in heaven or hell to get it done in the foreseeable future
manalishi:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Xe6kKMkRqPak/?list=notifications&randomize=false
Nah not buying that. How’s this scaremongering different from the ‘we’re all gonna die of either covid or due to no NHS’ gov’t scaremongering
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Currently upto 200,000 positives a day being recorded.
That’s 200,000 people who could die of any cause over the next month….but added to the stats as a COVID death.
Towards the end of January if current daily trends continue, potentially how many so called COVID deaths could we have in February….Absolutely untrue see above post.
It is true and how deaths are reported.
You saying; “Oh no it isn`t” repeatedly is becoming like a silly pantomime.
You have despite repeated requests provided no evidence of better data.Have you bothered reading my links to the ONS figures?
They Do Not Have Access to Covid Test Results.
They have explained this many times.
See if this is clearer for you:
“Counting how many people have sadly died with COVID-19 is not straightforward. Public Health England publishes daily figures for deaths in people with a laboratory-confirmed test for COVID-19. The Office for National Statistics reports deaths where the disease is mentioned on a death certificate. Each method has its own strengths and limitations. You can find both on PHE’s COVID-19 Dashboard and we’ve previously blogged on how we define COVID-19 deaths.”
ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2021/02/08/co … -pandemic/
Follow the links through to the blog for a clear explanation.You keep on about the Public Health England figures, which I am not referring to.
Please try to explain what your objection to the clearly explained ONS figures are.
I can see that the dashboard that appears on the TV can miss out some Covid deaths but probably not many.And to address the stuff in red…again…
"The World Health Organization (WHO) recognises this complexity and states that:A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma)."
Clearly your assertion that
“could die of any cause over the next month….but added to the stats as a COVID death.”
Is wrong, from WHO, and ONS, and PHE, methodologies.When Whitty or whoever says their piece they don
t go into all the fine detail everytime, it
s true. But the detail is there.
The data sets are less than perfect, but since you have offered no better, we are stuck with a set of best guesses.
Ans a kid in the theatre shouting “Oh no it isn`t”, is not much cop either.
The .Gov still swinging the inflated data. Or trying too.
ETS:
adam277:
Pretty good… I’d say about average.
When the NHS is cancelling appointments on a mass scale. So cancer is going undiagnosed. Even people with cancer and other serious medical conditions are getting their surgeries/appointments postponed.Over 10 million on the waiting list for ‘non-serious’ surgeries is quite scary. That’s 1 in 5. I myself have had a hernia for a few years, I’ve been postponing treating it due to potential financial issues (no sick pay), now I’ve got some £ for rainy days but unless I go private or abroad there’s no chance in heaven or hell to get it done in the foreseeable future
It’s the life threatening conditions put on hold. Don’t know how many….figures not released no doubt.
Here’s a curveball for Frangers and his mates, a Doctor (or ‘expert’ who ‘‘we should all listen to’’) actively working on the NHS front line, who ain’t having a vaccine.
Bet Javid is thinking ‘‘Of all the ■■■■ Doctors to ask when in front of mainstream media cameras’,.I have to ask this guy’'. '.
Can’t wait to hear how the ‘Trucknet Covid posse’ are going to find a way to discredit this guy,.as they usually do to some ‘expert’ who does not share their views…
youtu.be/hOlEYcd1nyI
Btw …have a read of the comments at bottom of page.
robroy:
Here’s a curveball for Frangers and his mates, a Doctor (or ‘expert’ who ‘‘we should all listen to’’) actively working on the NHS front line, who ain’t having a vaccine.
Bet Javid is thinking ‘‘Of all the [zb] Doctors to ask when in front of mainstream media cameras’,.I have to ask this guy’'.'.
Can’t wait to hear how the ‘Trucknet Covid posse’ are going to find a way to discredit this guy,.as they usually do to some ‘expert’ who does not share their views…
youtu.be/hOlEYcd1nyIBtw …have a read of the comments at bottom of page.
Or them answering the question why is the government refusing to prescribe AZ booster.
Also automatic prescription of approved oral anti viral treatment on positive PCR for at risk groups.
Any way you look at it the narrative doesn’t add up.