robroy:
Franglais mate, you’ve missed your vocation in lifeYou should be the UK’s Minister for Covid, or even an unelected role as the country’s leading Covid Czar, or Covid Guru.
You could be the Govetnments mouthpiece on all this and exacerbate the paranoia, propaganda and hysteria.
Nah, he’s far to busy getting his knickers in a twist over on the Brexit thread to hold down both roles!
Franglais:
robroy:
Sorry to offend you,.just ignore me, I’m one of life’s ■■■■ takers by nature.
I just find it strange your intense fascination bordering on obsession with all this, most of us just take it on the chin and get on with it and life alongside it.
I’m all for debating subjects on a forum, but this is like reading War and Peace., I know I should just ignore the thread, but your constant trying to convert people into your way of thinking, and believing everything,.as if you are on some kind of crusade just amuses me…sorry, just you carry on mate.
I’m sure you will.anyway.I think that something that has taken more than 150,000 UK lives in a couple of years, and currently accounts for over 10% of the NHS hospitalizations, is quite important. Don`t you?
Am I getting on with things? Am I living alongside Covid?
Yes I am.
That doesnt mean I stick my head in the sand, and pretend it doesnt exist.
It does mean I go to the great personal sacrifice of wearing a mask to cut down on any bugs I may breath out!
I also take other steps as recommended by health professionals, such as hand washing and keeping distance from others more than I did previously.
I am truly a hero for making such radical changes to my life arent I? How does a roughy-toughy ex-bouncer(?) such as yourself cope with such things. I hope it isnt doing your head in or anything?Do I believe everything?
If you took a few minutes to read some of my posts (Torture I know) before responding to them, you might realise that is not so.
Please supply a link or source to your quote “ I think something that has taken 150,000 UK lives in a couple of years”.
I’ll say again this 150,000 figure is died within 28 days of a positive test. Ie admitted to hospital with terminal illness, tested positive on admission. Died within 28 days with terminal illness, but will go on stats as Covid death.
English driver 1970:
Please supply a link or source to your quote “ I think something that has taken 150,000 UK lives in a couple of years”.
I’ll say again this 150,000 figure is died within 28 days of a positive test. Ie admitted to hospital with terminal illness, tested positive on admission. Died within 28 days with terminal illness, but will go on stats as Covid death.
Again?
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Your point couldn’t be further from the truth. 200,000 positive tests per day….huge percentage of those positives are people going into hospital or already in.
People going in or already there for heart problems, cancer, strokes etc etc.
There in hospital as a positive case, a COVID patient and any death within 28 days will be recorded as a COVID death.Nonsense.
The ONS differentiates between “due to covid” and “involving covid”.
All explained by them on their web site, and here in reply to a FOI request.
Not good enough?
Try these links
ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation … wales/2020
ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation … csjuly2017
English driver 1970:
Please supply a link or source to your quote “ I think something that has taken 150,000 UK lives in a couple of years”.
I’ll say again this 150,000 figure is died within 28 days of a positive test. Ie admitted to hospital with terminal illness, tested positive on admission. Died within 28 days with terminal illness, but will go on stats as Covid death.
So that is twice i have responded to you.
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Franglais:
I think that the ONS is a more reliable source than you.Unless “Karen offa Facebook” is your source, of course.
You get your dubious figures off .GOV institutions such as ONS. Which you openly admit. I bet you watch BBC news also.
Try branching out you may find more truths.It is true that you find just about anything you choose out there in www land.
Out of curiosity what trusted source for your “alternative facts” do you rely on?
Would you care to respond now, please?
Well it seems this thread has already developed into the latest incarnation of the “Covid / make sense of it” thread. I expect the link with key workers and transport in the original post has saved it from being moved.
Getting back on subject, is anyone in the chosen 100,000 that they know of yet? Apparently these people have been identified and will be getting their lateral flows soon. Is this through the employer or sent out privately?
What counts as key supply chain anyway?
The workers having these tests is a lot different from them actually taking them. Personally I think compliance will be low to start with and will get worse. How much sticking cotton buds in your nose can you actually take before you skip a day, then two, then three…
The workers having these tests is a lot different from them actually taking them. Personally I think compliance will be low to start with and will get worse. How much sticking cotton buds in your nose can you actually take before you skip a day, then two, then three…
It really ain’t a problem to most people, it only takes a couple of minutes and is painless but you are correct we will always get the ones that could not care less and have some very strange and silly views as we have seen in the 2 covid threads.
If this virus was visible I bet most of them would run a mile from it, oh wait, it’s just a cold that won’t affect the already immune,young and healthy. 
Media is the virus
Franglais:
stu675:
Paying? It should be totally free, except your time. How much time in the last 2 years have you spent hearing about Covid? Isn’t it worth 3 hours of your time to hear a different version that could be true?Do you have an iPhone? Would you like the apple link?
The link you provided originally is coming up as “unavailable” .
Ive found Joe Rogan on Spotify(?) but dont subscribe to that.
No i-Phone here. I dont subscribe to Apple either. . Since I have already come across Rogan and Malone, I really dont want to subject myself to having to listen to them together.
A podcast wont qualify as original source material anywhere would it? So anything Malone says there will have been covered by him elsewhere. Nowt new. I have read Malone about mass hypnosis, Nazis, etc and dont want to listen to his unsupported nonsense as well.
It’s not mallone, it’s Dr Peter McCullough. Peter quotes lots and lots of studies and published papers if you could be bothered to listen and research them.
I’m happy to accept that what he says sounds plausible, and in line with everything else I have seen and heard over the past 2 yrs.
Franglais:
stu675:
Yes, I agree this claim will never be able to be substantiated with official figures. How can it when official figures overstate the harms from Covid, official policy increased the harms of Covid by refusing treatment. Also, official policy is to hide the harms of the vaccines as well as hiding the harms of the non pharmaceutical interventions (remember that cost benefit analysis they produced on the lockdowns? Me neither).
So we’ll just have to leave it as a claim that I believe.So, we have:
official figures (complete with sources and methodologies)
vs
what you believe
.
And now in order to double down on unsupported (owt?) claims we have:
“official policy increased the harms of Covid by refusing treatment”
and
“official policy is to hide the harms of the vaccines as well as hiding the harms of the non pharmaceutical interventions”
.
Incredible.
Yes.
^^^ well spotted
Funny how those pesky conspiracy theorists arn’t proving far from being spot on as time goes by eh
It’s in the…
Sun, the pillar of truth and honour. /s
A newspaper that regularly shells out compensation to people it’s lied about after the court has torn it a new one.
Juddian you slate the MSM but, when this kind of rubbish appears, you support it.
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Please supply a link or source to your quote “ I think something that has taken 150,000 UK lives in a couple of years”.
I’ll say again this 150,000 figure is died within 28 days of a positive test. Ie admitted to hospital with terminal illness, tested positive on admission. Died within 28 days with terminal illness, but will go on stats as Covid death.So that is twice i have responded to you.
Franglais:
English driver 1970:
Franglais:
I think that the ONS is a more reliable source than you.Unless “Karen offa Facebook” is your source, of course.
You get your dubious figures off .GOV institutions such as ONS. Which you openly admit. I bet you watch BBC news also.
Try branching out you may find more truths.It is true that you find just about anything you choose out there in www land.
Out of curiosity what trusted source for your “alternative facts” do you rely on?
Would you care to respond now, please?
Your links have failed to show 150,000 uk deaths so far have died of Covid. All MSM report 150,000 deaths within 28 days of a positive test. Even the “Next slide please” events report deaths as within 28 days of positive test.
yourhavingalarf:
Juddian you slate the MSM but, when this kind of rubbish appears, you support it.
Pointing out the contradiction in the two MSM narratives isn’t ‘support’.
Iandrummer81:
This is deliberately misleading, a company claims to have developed a microchip that can be implanted under a persons skin and could be used to show a persons vaccination status, no-one in authority is suggesting that it should be used in fact the general consensus of opinion around the free world seems to be that it should not be used
jakethesnake:
If this virus was visible I bet most of them would run a mile from it, oh wait, it’s just a cold that won’t affect the already immune,young and healthy.
The virus is all too real strange then why stated at risk groups are being refused both an AZ booster.
Also approved anti viral meds on a positive PCR before it’s too late to make a difference.
Franglais:
robroy:
Sorry to offend you,.just ignore me, I’m one of life’s ■■■■ takers by nature.
I just find it strange your intense fascination bordering on obsession with all this, most of us just take it on the chin and get on with it and life alongside it.
I’m all for debating subjects on a forum, but this is like reading War and Peace., I know I should just ignore the thread, but your constant trying to convert people into your way of thinking, and believing everything,.as if you are on some kind of crusade just amuses me…sorry, just you carry on mate.
I’m sure you will.anyway.I think that something that has taken more than 150,000 UK lives in a couple of years, and currently accounts for over 10% of the NHS hospitalizations, is quite important. Don`t you?
Am I getting on with things? Am I living alongside Covid?
Yes I am.
That doesnt mean I stick my head in the sand, and pretend it doesnt exist.
It does mean I go to the great personal sacrifice of wearing a mask to cut down on any bugs I may breath out!
I also take other steps as recommended by health professionals, such as hand washing and keeping distance from others more than I did previously.
I am truly a hero for making such radical changes to my life arent I? How does a roughy-toughy ex-bouncer(?) such as yourself cope with such things. I hope it isnt doing your head in or anything?Do I believe everything?
If you took a few minutes to read some of my posts (Torture I know) before responding to them, you might realise that is not so.
Where did I say it wasn’t important,?
Where did I say or imply that I was sticking my head in the sand and pretending?
It’s just as I said,.I find your obsession with this stuff …well a bit strange bordering on cringeworthy tbh. 
You are in one camp totally and utterly obsessed with it, I am in the other coming at it from a ‘‘Que sera’’ stance,. what is the point of worrying so much over something you have no control over ?..just chill out for a moment.
Sorry if I come across as too laid back for you, but it goes a long way towards keeping my blood pressure down and staving off my first heart attack over something I have no control over.
You should wear a Cape as an accessory to your mask Franglais,.as you rightly say you’re a Covid hero for keeping us all abreast of ‘‘The Facts’’. 
You ask if you’re ‘‘Doing my head in’’, no not yet , but do carry on being a constant source of amusement and wonder over all this for me, it makes the dark nights fly in. 
tmcassett:
robroy:
Franglais mate, you’ve missed your vocation in lifeYou should be the UK’s Minister for Covid, or even an unelected role as the country’s leading Covid Czar, or Covid Guru.
You could be the Govetnments mouthpiece on all this and exacerbate the paranoia, propaganda and hysteria.
Nah, he’s far to busy getting his knickers in a twist over on the Brexit thread to hold down both roles!
I wouldn’t know mate,.I’ve avoided the ‘‘Boo hoo we didn’t get our own way thread’’ for a while now,.
tachograph:
This is deliberately misleading, a company claims to have developed a microchip that can be implanted under a persons skin and could be used to show a persons vaccination status, no-one in authority is suggesting that it should be used in fact the general consensus of opinion around the free world seems to be that it should not be used
Obviously no government minister seems to have issued any advice to ‘the company’ in question telling them not to bother with the idea from the outset.Seems like a lot of effort expended on something that ‘the company’ didn’t think that the government would ever pass.Companies aren’t usually in the business of throwing away their investors cash on medical supplies projects which they have been told by the government have no merit from the outset.
Even stranger Boris’ congratulating of Astra Zenica’s scientists and the government then refusing AZ boosters having priotised previous rounds of AZ vaccinations for ‘at risk’ groups.
Or for that matter approving anti viral treatment which is then with held on the basis of ‘strict clinical control’ and being reserved for use by ‘developing countries’ with ‘low uptake’ of vaccinations.
That was interesting.