Daily Covid 19 Testing

stu675:

TruckerGuy:

Carryfast:
Which leaves the question how can any AIDs suffer survive Covid if it’s about ‘immunity’.

That is an outstanding question!

Do you know what the other letters stand for in aids?
Deficiency - not a total absence of any immunity. Plus, with treatment for aids, I assume their immunity is supported.

Yep supported by anti virals to stop the HIV virus taking out the CD4 cells.Which left untreated it does every time.
At what point does a viral treatment become more about the use of anti virals and the realisation that vaccination in whatever form won’t work.
For some reason they didn’t waste time on looking for a vaccine against HIV.
Especially experimental mRNA or viral vector technology type.
Bearing in mind breakthrough infections of Covid and more than once which suggests that there is no immunity and which makes vaccination or not moot.
The word is that two shots only provides freedom to travel up to 270 days from last jab
So I’ll probably get a third ironically for similar reasons that Rob won’t.
I dont give a zb and it’s too late now anyway even if I did.
I’ve survived the two AZ jabs so far.
But I like my freedom to travel while we’re still able to and I’m still around to enjoy it.
So get the booster ready for some foreign road trips in Summer.

Rob Roy your scholboy error was to not make a video diary of the events within your households and then send it to a well known world expert in viral diseases, if only you knew one :question: if you don’t I can recommend a certain Professor Franglais who has a Ph.D in C+E and is on commission from Google search so all his information is 100% cosher which makes him well qualified to investigate any matters concerning viral infections or immunity :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

stu675:
According to UKHSA data vaccine effectiveness has now fallen below zero. So three doses are holding up somewhat. But 2 doses for any group over 60 and you would be better off unvaccinated.0

So why should we believe that 3 shots will be any different.
Bearing in mind that the two shots still provides 270 days freedom to travel from the last jab.
After that expires must have a booster and that applies to all ages.

robroy:
Look mate,.all jokes aside let’s get serious on this for a moment.

One post and a few hours later…

robroy:
Aye whatever.
You’ve finally wore me down mate.

stu675:
According to UKHSA data vaccine effectiveness has now fallen below zero. So three doses are holding up somewhat. But 2 doses for any group over 60 and you would be better off unvaccinated.0

Screenshot with no links to any original site.

What is it and what does it actually mean?
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Franglais:
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Explanation: Vaccinated people are 50% more likely to die from covid than unvaccinated people.
Official source: assets.publishing.service.gov.u … week-4.pdf
Analysis: dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vac … a-suggest/

stu675:
According to UKHSA data vaccine effectiveness has now fallen below zero. So three doses are holding up somewhat. But 2 doses for any group over 60 and you would be better off unvaccinated.0

I think if you care to check you will find that after 2 doses vaccinated are still protected from hospitalisation and death.
Probably not so much from symptomatic disease though.
Just to let you know the vaccine gives more protection from ba2 than ba1.

stu675:

Franglais:
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Explanation: Vaccinated people are 50% more likely to die from covid than unvaccinated people.
Official source: assets.publishing.service.gov.u … week-4.pdf
Analysis: dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vac … a-suggest/

Really, I think you need to check some valid details and understand them. :wink:

Have you ever thought how many more would have died had they not been vaccinated?

Do you know how many billion have been vaccinated round the world.

And while you are at it check how effective the vaccine is compared to non vaccinated.
I can show reputable graphs if you have any trouble.

Mazzer2:
Rob Roy your scholboy error was to not make a video diary of the events within your households and then send it to a well known world expert in viral diseases, if only you knew one :question: if you don’t I can recommend a certain Professor Franglais who has a Ph.D in C+E and is on commission from Google search so all his information is 100% cosher which makes him well qualified to investigate any matters concerning viral infections or immunity :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

You should be grateful that Franglais takes the time to check valid links not like some of the tosh that gets spouted. :laughing:

Franglais:

robroy:
Look mate,.all jokes aside let’s get serious on this for a moment.

One post and a few hours later…

robroy:
Aye whatever.
You’ve finally wore me down mate.

C’mon Frangers, it’s YOU taking the ■■■■ now :unamused: , you strike me as an intelligent bloke.
You surely picked up did you not, that my ‘‘Let’s get serious’’ crack referred to me stopping making fun of you and trying to point out how you come across to people on here on all this stuff… NOT for me to actually take this stuff as serious as you and trawl through endless boring articles on Covid to start some serious debate with you…hence the ‘‘One post and a few hours later’’ quote.
Given a choice I would rather pick up that pineapple and mallet I often refer to on here on these occasions,.and insert it violently into my rectal area.
But in the meantime I’ll just keep annoying you by my flippant cavalier attitude to all this which you find hard to understand, in direct contrast to your total commitment and obsession. equally of which that I find bizzare and amusing…sorry :wink:

Theres some more ‘tosh’’ for Jakey’s collection. :smiley:

stu675:

Franglais:
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Explanation: Vaccinated people are 50% more likely to die from covid than unvaccinated people.
Official source: assets.publishing.service.gov.u … week-4.pdf
Analysis: dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vac … a-suggest/

youtu.be/f9utczapsmI

Check out some truth from the UKHSA near the end of this Vid.

Anyway, what happened to all this daily Covid testing? Omicron never did hit that hard (whether down to vaccination, natural immunity or not so severe strain). Maybe if the country returns to some semblance of normality, Franglais will STFU. Cue Franglais, entering stage left with a pile of papers trying to show them to me (or any other passing lorry driver) and me looking disinterested and increasing the pace of my walk, gradually into a jog and a full-paced run.

Why are some of you getting your knickers in such a twist because someone takes the time to find reputable links to dispute all the conspiracy crap that’s going about?

It’s a forum for discussion!!! Debate if you want?

If you are not interested in the subject just ignore it.

The guy is doing no harm apart from winding you up and you keep coming back for more. :laughing:

It’s as if lorry drivers are not allowed to have any interest in anything else or know more than others about another subject. :unamused:

jakethesnake:
I can show reputable graphs if you have any trouble.

Please do.

jakethesnake:

stu675:

Franglais:
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Explanation: Vaccinated people are 50% more likely to die from covid than unvaccinated people.
Official source: assets.publishing.service.gov.u … week-4.pdf
Analysis: dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vac … a-suggest/

Really, I think you need to check some valid details and understand them. :wink:

Have you ever thought how many more would have died had they not been vaccinated?

Do you know how many billion have been vaccinated round the world.

And while you are at it check how effective the vaccine is compared to non vaccinated.
I can show reputable graphs if you have any trouble.

Can you tell me the name of a single person on the planet who’s life has been saved by the vaccine?

Noremac:
Anyway, what happened to all this daily Covid testing? Omicron never did hit that hard (whether down to vaccination, natural immunity or not so severe strain). Maybe if the country returns to some semblance of normality, Franglais will STFU. Cue Franglais, entering stage left with a pile of papers trying to show them to me (or any other passing lorry driver) and me looking disinterested and increasing the pace of my walk, gradually into a jog and a full-paced run.

Daily testing?
As suggested by one PM Johnson about a month ago?
Ask him, not me.
.

stu675:

jakethesnake:

stu675:

Franglais:
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Explanation: Vaccinated people are 50% more likely to die from covid than unvaccinated people.
Official source: assets.publishing.service.gov.u … week-4.pdf
Analysis: dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vac … a-suggest/

Really, I think you need to check some valid details and understand them. :wink:

Have you ever thought how many more would have died had they not been vaccinated?

Do you know how many billion have been vaccinated round the world.

And while you are at it check how effective the vaccine is compared to non vaccinated.
I can show reputable graphs if you have any trouble.

Can you tell me the name of a single person on the planet who’s life has been saved by the vaccine?

Mr Smith.
He was also saved from lung cancer because he has never smoked.
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stu675:

Franglais:
Does minus 150% effectiveness mean vaccinated people will die one-and-a-half times?
Or just get the virus twice from one infection?

Explanation: Vaccinated people are 50% more likely to die from covid than unvaccinated people.
Official source: assets.publishing.service.gov.u … week-4.pdf
Analysis: dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vac … a-suggest/

The bare figures are from UKHSA.
The report quoted also says the figures are incomplete and warns against their manipulation in the way done.

Daily Sceptic leaves out that bit of the original UKHSA report…

Link here to FullFact.
fullfact.org/online/ukhsa-vacci … effective/

The report mentions it has contacted Daily Sceptic which has refused to amend it’s “■■■■” despite being demonstrably wrong.

There are recent repors with vaccine effectiveness figures.
Nowhere i can see does it show “negative effectiveness”.

ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation … ectiveness

The OP screen shot is not of a UKHSA graph.

It is from a site claiming to use UKHSA figures then playing fast and loose with them.

It’s ■■■■■■■■.

For those with a few minutes to spare, and an interest in the world and how it works here is a link to a FullFact blog about the above.
They aren’t lorry drivers so technical phraseology such as ■■■■■■■■ and ■■■■ are deficient.

fullfact.org/health/phe-ukhsa-bolsonaro/

Thanks, very interesting and informative.