Puts Gear into Neutral by Speed between 56 mph and 60 mph
How you steer if Engine goes out 
Big muscles
Can you not switch the ‘eco roll’ or whatever cobblers this system is called off?
Fuel’s shut off on overrun anyway so no gain as far as i can see apart from the vehicle will coast further without the engine drag…anyway coasting used to be a cardinal sin, is it ok when the electronics do it then?
Apart from all that don’t you get an overspeed for prolonged running over 56/57 mph on a downhill stretch anyway, we would if we were in that much of a hurry.
British Speedlimit is 60 mph.
Law says:“Powered Speed musst be broken by 56mph”
but hill down Weight pushing is not said
Immigrant:
:arrow: Puts Gear into Neutral by Speed between 56 mph and 60 mphHow you steer if Engine goes out
With the steering wheel. It only becomes a problem at low speed. I once drove for a cowboy firm and had a power steering hose split. Drove all the way from Scunthorpe to Hull docks without power steering. Was OK-ish once up to 20-30MPH but was a pig below that.
Ahh,…but,if you have to do a Emergency Break and the Front Wheel pulls Left or Right you in Trouble,and second,If Engine goes off when Gear in Neutral,then the Vehicle will slow down.
You may manage it or not. But i dont think its Legal at all.
Immigrant:
Ahh,…but,if you have to do a Emergency Break and the Front Wheel pulls Left or Right you in Trouble,and second,If Engine goes off when Gear in Neutral,then the Vehicle will slow down.
You may manage it or not. But i dont think its Legal at all.
You sound like you worry too much!![emoji12]
If the engine stalls the ‘I-roll’ or whatever that manufacturer calls it will disengage and you will be back to just as though the engine had stalled with full engine breaking. The engine management system will have an anti-stall built in anyway so will try not to let it stall.
But as said - you worry too much. turn it off if it bothers you.
Immigrant:
British Speedlimit is 60 mph.
Law says:“Powered Speed musst be broken by 56mph”
but hill down Weight pushing is not said
Whatever that means, could you revert to Queens English you inadvertantly slip back into in other posts.
Speed limit may well be 60 mph, but you’ll get an overspeed long before 60 if you let it overrun for a reasonable distance, presumably your company isn’t worried about overspeeds in which case why let it ecoroll at all, lock it in gear then you won’t have to worry about losing power to the steering.
Personally i’d be more worried about the future generations of vehicles where the steering is not connected mechanically at all, error 404 happens there you’ll drive up a tree if you’re lucky.
How is the steering powered? Maybe electric on a modern truck like a lot of cars.
Sounds like another one who thinks it’s a target rather than a limit 
I think I’d be rather concerned about potential gearbox damage due to possible lack of lubrication while letting it roll in neutral.
If engine cuts out while in neutral just steer it with the steering wheel just like we used to do before they invented power steering.
wing-nut:
Sounds like another one who thinks it’s a target rather than a limit
I think I’d be rather concerned about potential gearbox damage due to possible lack of lubrication while letting it roll in neutral.
If engine cuts out while in neutral just steer it with the steering wheel just like we used to do before they invented power steering.
This feature was a bit unnerving for me first time it happened!!
I would assume that the manufacturers have studied the long term effects that it would have on the gearbox before putting the feature on the vehicles… 
Then again, you only need to look at the earlier DAF and the infamous ‘Exhaust System Warning’ because of that Adblue filter to realise they don’t seem to consider the vehicles getting older!! DPF’s on cars are another fine example! Maybe its a ploy to get people to buy new stuff 
p.s. Am I the only on the finds themselves humming ‘All out of love’ whenever the “Air Supply” screen comes up on the MID!?
Immigrant:
:arrow: Puts Gear into Neutral by Speed between 56 mph and 60 mphHow you steer if Engine goes out
Eco-roll as DAF like to call it works to strict parameters ,when it engages Neutral it will only do so when these parameters are met ,if when in Eco -roll it starts to build up to much speed it will re-engage the gear ,it won’t let you just keep rolling building up speed…
I dare say you would steer it the same way you would steer your car or any truck or bus where the engines cut out.with a lot of effort…
Think you need to read the drivers handbook as you do not understand how it works ,and you can switch it off if you don’t like it
norb:
Immigrant:
:arrow: Puts Gear into Neutral by Speed between 56 mph and 60 mphHow you steer if Engine goes out
Eco-roll as DAF like to call it works to strict parameters ,when it engages Neutral it will only do so when these parameters are met ,if when in Eco -roll it starts to build up to much speed it will re-engage the gear ,it won’t let you just keep rolling building up speed…
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Think you need to read the drivers handbook as you do not understand how it works ,and you can switch it off if you don’t like it
That is correct.
Volvo and Mercedes have it too. Sst the overrun speed to your preference and as soon as it reaches that speed it will re engage gear and then engine braking and/or service brake if required.
Juddian:
Immigrant:
British Speedlimit is 60 mph.
Law says:“Powered Speed musst be broken by 56mph”
but hill down Weight pushing is not saidWhatever that means, could you revert to Queens English you inadvertantly slip back into in other posts.
Speed limit may well be 60 mph, but you’ll get an overspeed long before 60 if you let it overrun for a reasonable distance, presumably your company isn’t worried about overspeeds in which case why let it ecoroll at all, lock it in gear then you won’t have to worry about losing power to the steering.
Personally i’d be more worried about the future generations of vehicles where the steering is not connected mechanically at all, error 404 happens there you’ll drive up a tree if you’re lucky.
I was advised by our compliance guy, that DVSA will book you for excessive overspeeding, can use C & U regs operating a vehicle over speed limiter, though He is a knob 
My XF is a 15 plate and I love it. It seems to congratulate my driving a lot.
Unlike my missus.
eddie snax:
I was advised by our compliance guy, that DVSA will book you for excessive overspeeding, can use C & U regs operating a vehicle over speed limiter, though He is a knob
He is indeed a knob coming out with nonsense like that and he clearly has no knowledge of the speed limiter regulations which only require the limiter to prevent the vehicle being powered beyond the limited speed. Momentum causing you to exceed it isn’t a problem provided you don’t go beyond 60mph.
If the DVSA were to do someone under the C&U regs in this sort of incident itwould be for a defective soeed limiter, if it had been tampered with of was not working properly, and not for speeding. There is nothing in the C&U regs that they could bring a speeding offence under. Speeding is dealt with under the Road Teaffic Act.
Coffeeholic:
eddie snax:
I was advised by our compliance guy, that DVSA will book you for excessive overspeeding, can use C & U regs operating a vehicle over speed limiter, though He is a knobHe is indeed a knob coming out with nonsense like that and he clearly has no knowledge of the speed limiter regulations which only require the limiter to prevent the vehicle being powered beyond the limited speed. Momentum causing you to exceed it isn’t a problem provided you don’t go beyond 60mph.
If the DVSA were to do someone under the C&U regs in this sort of incident itwould be for a defective soeed limiter, if it had been tampered with of was not working properly, and not for speeding. There is nothing in the C&U regs that they could bring a speeding offence under. Speeding is dealt with under the Road Teaffic Act.
I’ll try to remember that, in the rare event that I get another overspeed, nothing more satisfying than mocking office staff. Trouble is I rarely overspeed, and as I get older I’m less bothered about arguing just for the sake off arguing, just easier to sign the infringement
Firstly, why does the op think the engine will stall if it’s in ecoroll, and secondly, why are you worried about how you’ll steer at 60mph, but don’t seem to be worried about the engine cutting out and no power steering at 50?
Immigrant:
You may manage it or not. But i dont think its Legal at all.
If it wasn’t legal they’d not be allowed out on the road.
wing-nut:
I think I’d be rather concerned about potential gearbox damage due to possible lack of lubrication while letting it roll in neutral.
What potential lack of lubrication? Engine is still running on tickover, shafts in gearbox are still turning. How could there be a lack of lubrication?