blade 68:
thispost comes up now and then, i drive a 105 with the so called autotragic box an i think it’s fine! it does whats asked of it, ok it’s not as rapid as an i shift which i had for 3 yrs , and has a little less fine control when reversing, but its still a nice stress free drive, as for capital cities i do 8 to 10 drops london every mon n tues an it copes fine. i often wonder what you going to do with all that extra time u save with an i shift?? is everybody in that much of a hurry? chill man, kick back, enjoy
Yes but try reversing a Cf auto with asthmatic box on a wet landfill…hilarious, and crap for slow reversing on customers sites.
Muckaway i have tried all of those situation and more yes the i-shift is a better box but the AsTronic is more than up to the job.You have to remember its a semi automatic gearbox not a physic gearbox it cant see.As you know who i work for 98% of the fleet is autos so they cant be that bad
Yeah, I don’t know whether our two weren’t specced right Fred, but they’re nowhere near as good as the MAN autos we’ve got recently…these handle the rough like manuals.
I used to struggle on roundabouts with my Opticruise but someone helpfully told me how to reprogram it to start in a different gear which helped no end. Can this be changed on the DAF?
We have just taken 10 Dafs 4 with the little wheels like mine 4 tag axles and 2 double drives all autos along with 2 MANs one double drive one tag autos 2 renaults same combinations but manual along with a shed load of Scanias autos lol.But the man knows how to spec a waste motor
flick the little engine button on the left of the steering wheel when approaching a roundabout or tight bend this will activate the engine retarder thing but will prime the next lower gear for you to floor it at a roundabout
when you work out how to use the gearbox they aint bad
also the daf boxes are better than the man ones imo
grabster:
Drove my first daf auto box today,12speed arsetronic on an 8 wheeler tipper/grab.
What a nightmare.
The looks i got on roundybouts and at junctions…
I think you need to consult your ‘How To Drive An Eight Wheeled Tipper’ manual.
blade 68:
thispost comes up now and then, i drive a 105 with the so called autotragic box an i think it’s fine! it does whats asked of it, ok it’s not as rapid as an i shift which i had for 3 yrs , and has a little less fine control when reversing, but its still a nice stress free drive, as for capital cities i do 8 to 10 drops london every mon n tues an it copes fine. i often wonder what you going to do with all that extra time u save with an i shift?? is everybody in that much of a hurry? chill man, kick back, enjoy
Yes but try reversing a Cf auto with asthmatic box on a wet landfill…hilarious, and crap for slow reversing on customers sites.
Muckaway i have tried all of those situation and more yes the i-shift is a better box but the AsTronic is more than up to the job.You have to remember its a semi automatic gearbox not a physic gearbox it cant see.As you know who i work for 98% of the fleet is autos so they cant be that bad
Yeah, I don’t know whether our two weren’t specced right Fred, but they’re nowhere near as good as the MAN autos we’ve got recently…these handle the rough like manuals.
Same box mate. Daf MAN iveco all use same zf as tronic box. Not a patch on I shift but if you adapt to its lazy driving style and use a bit of manual over ride not to bad but reversing can be a bit hit and miss. I tend to use the manoeuvring mode a lot but I know on tips sometimes a bit more than tick over is needed.
With all these auto boxes you still have to give manual inputs and use your eyes for situations ahead to get the best out of them, you may as well be using a manual ! It begs the question , what the hell was wrong with a fuller box, a dam sight more reliable without all the electronic crap.
Trev_H:
With all these auto boxes you still have to give manual inputs and use your eyes for situations ahead to get the best out of them, you may as well be using a manual ! It begs the question , what the hell was wrong with a fuller box, a dam sight more reliable without all the electronic crap.
There is enough to worry about on todays congested roads that requires you to think more, crazy car drivers and cyclists for example. Playing tunes on a fuller or eaton while worrying about what other road users are doing is at least one less thing to have to worry about.
chaversdad:
same box as in a MAN use them properly and i dont think they are too bad at all
you need to flick it into manual a lot of the time to get the best out of them
Not being sarcastic but if I had an auto box which you had to flick into manual a lot of the time then I personally would think it IS a bad box,in that it isn’t doing it’s job.
even the best auto boxes cant see a hill coming up, so therefore i flick it into manual to hold it in the gear its in rather than have it change up only for it to change down a few seconds later and lose its momentum
i didnt mean to get the best out of the MAN auto you have to physically drive it in manual and change gear yourself, rather just help it anticipate whats coming up and not just rely on it 100% , some drivers think just cos its an auto they arent going to do anything at all and then complain when it does something they didnt want it to do
Trev_H:
Playing tunes on a fuller or eaton?, not me guv, that would be an agency driver
I can only admit to driving an eaton once before. Was working for a well known but now gone parcel company on bulk c+d at the time. My usual truck was away for MOT so i had to take the one the mechanics used for taking trailers for test as it was the only thing available. It was an Iveco Eurotec if i remember with a twin splitter. The fitter warned me that it has a habit of jumping out of gear and he wasn’t wrong. It seemed to do it at the worst possible time, like goiong up a hill. It wasn’t just the gearbox that played tunes that day. I think i has a few x-rated tunes of my own that day too. That was my first and thankfully only encounter with an eaton.
Trev_H:
With all these auto boxes you still have to give manual inputs and use your eyes for situations ahead to get the best out of them, you may as well be using a manual ! It begs the question , what the hell was wrong with a fuller box, a dam sight more reliable without all the electronic crap.
There is enough to worry about on todays congested roads that requires you to think more, crazy car drivers and cyclists for example. Playing tunes on a fuller or eaton while worrying about what other road users are doing is at least one less thing to have to worry about.
grabster:
Drove my first daf auto box today,12speed arsetronic on an 8 wheeler tipper/grab.
What a nightmare.
The looks i got on roundybouts and at junctions…
I think you need to consult your ‘How To Drive An Eight Wheeled Tipper’ manual.
Was out again today in a more rural setting, saturday double time eh! Reinforced my opinion on this box.
Went through all 12 gears many times.
And reverse ,whats that all about ? wouldnt fancy hitching up to a trailer or doing any fiddly 55 point turns
I drove an iveco eurotrekker for a while with a twin split eaton which was an absolute dream to drive,once i got used to it. Would much prefer to drive that than this one .
grabster:
Was out again today in a more rural setting, saturday double time eh! Reinforced my opinion on this box.
Went through all 12 gears many times.
And reverse ,whats that all about ? wouldnt fancy hitching up to a trailer or doing any fiddly 55 point turns
I drove an iveco eurotrekker for a while with a twin split eaton which was an absolute dream to drive,once i got used to it. Would much prefer to drive that than this one .
Should be 2 reverse gears, pick the slow one, I tried reversing into a really tight drop using the normal reverse gear and it was useless, the slow one was much better.
grabster:
Was out again today in a more rural setting, saturday double time eh! Reinforced my opinion on this box.
Went through all 12 gears many times.
And reverse ,whats that all about ? wouldnt fancy hitching up to a trailer or doing any fiddly 55 point turns
I drove an iveco eurotrekker for a while with a twin split eaton which was an absolute dream to drive,once i got used to it. Would much prefer to drive that than this one .
Should be 2 reverse gears, pick the slow one, I tried reversing into a really tight drop using the normal reverse gear and it was useless, the slow one was much better.
Maybe its just this particular vehicle,useing both reverse gears doesnt seem to make any difference at all,they both jump about.Its either stop or go.
A hill holder would be handy.
grabster:
Was out again today in a more rural setting, saturday double time eh! Reinforced my opinion on this box.
Went through all 12 gears many times.
And reverse ,whats that all about ? wouldnt fancy hitching up to a trailer or doing any fiddly 55 point turns
I drove an iveco eurotrekker for a while with a twin split eaton which was an absolute dream to drive,once i got used to it. Would much prefer to drive that than this one .
Should be 2 reverse gears, pick the slow one, I tried reversing into a really tight drop using the normal reverse gear and it was useless, the slow one was much better.
Maybe its just this particular vehicle,useing both reverse gears doesnt seem to make any difference at all,they both jump about.Its either stop or go.
A hill holder would be handy.
My 59 plate cf has a hill holder but there is a 1 second delay so you get rollback which makes it useless, even though you have no clutch you can use your throttle as a clutch to get bite against handbrake.
Reinforced my opinion on this box.