Cyclists safety.... again!

absolutely not a stupid thing to say.
These self rightous knobs need the roads to be maintained, how do they contribute?
They get involved in accidents but have no insurance.

I witnessed a cycle club near Notts on Friday on a group ride out, as they approached red traffic lights where I was patiently waiting, the whole group of approx 20 riders mounted the pavement still cycling at high speed then went around a bend in the path, what if a pedestrian had dared to use the path at the same time?

I’ve also waited behind a ■■■■ on a bike while I was driving an artic, then I carefully overtook him. A mile later he took me on the inside on a roundabout!

PilotWolf:
So why is it illegal for motorists, horse and carts, motorcyclists to race on the public highway but legal (I assume it is rather than just ignored by the police) for cyclists to race on the same road?

W.

TTs are not classed as races in the same way as each rider is individual as no bunching allowed so the there is no need to close the road.

Races such as Tour of Britain run on rolling police road blocks so disruption is kept to minimum.

As it happens I don’t agree with organised motor racing being illegal now as I remember whole towns being closed for special rally stages etc. Was fantastic to watch as a wee boy.

Kerbdog:

triple-tango:
Those that pay to use the road have more right to use it than the self-rightous licra clad knobs.

I’ve got a car, a motorbike and a truck… OH AND A BIKE…So I have more right than you to use the roads then as I pay more for use of the roads ? What damage does a pushbike do to the road ? What damage does a pushbike do to the environment ? What a stupid thing to say.

Actually, the only 3 things that have a RIGHT to use the roads in the UK are

  1. Pedestrians
  2. Horses
  3. Cycles

Cars, motorbikes, trucks, busses, taxi’s et al only have a LICENSED PRIVILEGE (why does the spelling on that always look wrong?), hence why you have to take a test and get a licence.

I get sick of hearing “cycles don’t pay road tax”, nobody pays road tax anymore, it’s a road fund licence based on your co2 emissions, so things like a Prius also pay £0 per year road fund licence.
“cycles don’t have insurance”, actually they do, most are covered under their house insurance, but also a lot of cyclists take out extra insurance incase of damage or injury
“cycles don’t have a number plate” so… they’re not a licenced vehicle, so why would they need a LICENCE plate?

Cycles have a RIGHT to use the road, hence why kids can ride a bike on the road, those who have to take a test to prove how good they are on the road and get a licence to give them the privilege of using it are the ones who have to be responsible for the rest.

Hmmm, they also have a RIGHT to ignore the highway code too?
I’m afraid I have no time at all for cyclists, they are generally their own worst enemies.
Ban cycles I say ! :wink:

triple-tango:
absolutely not a stupid thing to say.
These self rightous knobs need the roads to be maintained, how do they contribute?
They get involved in accidents but have no insurance.

I witnessed a cycle club near Notts on Friday on a group ride out, as they approached red traffic lights where I was patiently waiting, the whole group of approx 20 riders mounted the pavement still cycling at high speed then went around a bend in the path, what if a pedestrian had dared to use the path at the same time?

I’ve also waited behind a [zb] on a bike while I was driving an artic, then I carefully overtook him. A mile later he took me on the inside on a roundabout!

I pay my taxes the same as any other tax payer, thats how we contribute. we do NO damage to the road surface but just like a motorised steerer we do expect the road to be clear of debris, exactly what we pay our taxes for. Remember that no particular tax is designated for roads anymore.

And yes, if you’re going slower than me at a particular point on the road I will pass you again, quite within my rights to do so.

triple-tango:
Hmmm, they also have a RIGHT to ignore the highway code too?

As do an awful lot of motorists…

triple-tango:
Hmmm, they also have a RIGHT to ignore the highway code too?
I’m afraid I have no time at all for cyclists, they are generally their own worst enemies.
Ban cycles I say ! :wink:

I think you mean a right to ignore the rules of the road.

The highway code is just a guide which contains the rules of the road :wink:

anisboy:
we do expect the road to be clear of debris, exactly what we pay our taxes for. Remember that no particular tax is designated for roads anymore.

And yes, if you’re going slower than me at a particular point on the road I will pass you again, quite within my rights to do so.

So you wish to use the road but pay no extra for the PRVILIDGE ?
Yes ovetake me by all means, But why on the inside?

anisboy:

triple-tango:
absolutely not a stupid thing to say.
These self rightous knobs need the roads to be maintained, how do they contribute?
They get involved in accidents but have no insurance.

I witnessed a cycle club near Notts on Friday on a group ride out, as they approached red traffic lights where I was patiently waiting, the whole group of approx 20 riders mounted the pavement still cycling at high speed then went around a bend in the path, what if a pedestrian had dared to use the path at the same time?

I’ve also waited behind a [zb] on a bike while I was driving an artic, then I carefully overtook him. A mile later he took me on the inside on a roundabout!

I pay my taxes the same as any other tax payer, thats how we contribute. we do NO damage to the road surface but just like a motorised steerer we do expect the road to be clear of debris, exactly what we pay our taxes for. Remember that no particular tax is designated for roads anymore.

And yes, if you’re going slower than me at a particular point on the road I will pass you again, quite within my rights to do so.

No offence mate, but you’re a plonker then :grimacing:

This is why people are so ■■■■■■ off with cyclists. If you pass a tractor, would you expect it to pass you at a set of lights and go back in front of you?

As I’ve pointed out and made obvious, I also cycle on the road - but more on off-road tracks tbh as the roads are full of impatient morons - but I don’t put myself in danger either by being in a dangerous position or by ■■■■■■■ people off in vehicles that weigh a damned site more than me.

It’s sometimes very difficult to get past a cyclist, especially in an artic, if they take the time to do it safely, why inconvenience them again by forcing them to do it again? That is muppetry of the 1st degree and is sure to get you killed

triple-tango:

anisboy:
we do expect the road to be clear of debris, exactly what we pay our taxes for. Remember that no particular tax is designated for roads anymore.

And yes, if you’re going slower than me at a particular point on the road I will pass you again, quite within my rights to do so.

So you wish to use the road but pay no extra for the PRVILIDGE ?
Yes ovetake me by all means, But why on the inside?

A LOT of cars now pay £0 road fund licence, do you treat them so badly? No, didn’t think so.

Oh, and it’s P R I V I L E G E :wink:

waynedl:
A LOT of cars now pay £0 road fund licence, do you treat them so badly? No, didn’t think so.

Oh, and it’s P R I V I L E G E :wink:

Yes, I hate Prius drivers too !
Thank you for correcting my spelling, perhaps I can PM my posts to you to proof read? Thankyou.
By the way who said I treat cyclists badly? I treat them carefully and with caution. I meerly said they are self rightous lycra clad prats who are their own worst enemies.

I also have a pushbike, although I dont ride it anymore.

triple-tango:
I also have a pushbike, although I dont ride it anymore.

Love it :slight_smile:

waynedl:

anisboy:

triple-tango:
absolutely not a stupid thing to say.
These self rightous knobs need the roads to be maintained, how do they contribute?
They get involved in accidents but have no insurance.

I witnessed a cycle club near Notts on Friday on a group ride out, as they approached red traffic lights where I was patiently waiting, the whole group of approx 20 riders mounted the pavement still cycling at high speed then went around a bend in the path, what if a pedestrian had dared to use the path at the same time?

I’ve also waited behind a [zb] on a bike while I was driving an artic, then I carefully overtook him. A mile later he took me on the inside on a roundabout!

I pay my taxes the same as any other tax payer, thats how we contribute. we do NO damage to the road surface but just like a motorised steerer we do expect the road to be clear of debris, exactly what we pay our taxes for. Remember that no particular tax is designated for roads anymore.

And yes, if you’re going slower than me at a particular point on the road I will pass you again, quite within my rights to do so.

No offence mate, but you’re a plonker then :grimacing:

This is why people are so ■■■■■■ off with cyclists. If you pass a tractor, would you expect it to pass you at a set of lights and go back in front of you?

As I’ve pointed out and made obvious, I also cycle on the road - but more on off-road tracks tbh as the roads are full of impatient morons - but I don’t put myself in danger either by being in a dangerous position or by ■■■■■■■ people off in vehicles that weigh a damned site more than me.

It’s sometimes very difficult to get past a cyclist, especially in an artic, if they take the time to do it safely, why inconvenience them again by forcing them to do it again? That is muppetry of the 1st degree and is sure to get you killed

Well thats a very interesting observation, due to that I’ve been riding for longer than I care to remember, up and down the A40 dual carriageway (Ross to Monouth area for those that know it) and beyond and not been killed yet so far as I know.

Personally I wouldn’t pass on the inside, as I recognise how dangerous that is unless I am in a designated approach lane as you sometime get coming upto junctions etc, and even then I do it with regard to whatever vehicle is on my right, ie are they turning left, is there a box in front of them, have they seen me etc etc.

If you pass a tractor, would you expect it to pass you at a set of lights and go back in front of you? If I’m on the bike then yes, it happens quite frequently in Herefordshire, and yes, I then end up having to overtake it on the bike again at a suitable point further up the road.

Apart from my two accidents with cars, I’ve very rarely had an issue with other traffic, particuarly HGV’s, and have found its share and share alike (national Express coaches on the other hand). I treat other road users now with the same respect I expect as a cyclist. I deliver to Topsham in Devon on a regular basis, and often have to follow the odd cyclist up over the bridge and up to the roundabout passed Darts farm (about a mile), even though there is a cycle path on the right, do I get bothered, nope not a bit. I give them space, they generally thank me (sometimes not) when we get to the roundabout and we go on our seperate ways.

Chill out boys.

anisboy:

triple-tango:
Hmmm, they also have a RIGHT to ignore the highway code too?

As do an awful lot of motorists…

As do the vast majority of truck drivers (40 & 50 mph speed limits for example)

Cyclists will never ever be safe on the roads, if motorists cannot see a 56 foot long, 14 foot high, bright orange artic then they aint gonna see a puny cyclist, same goes for cyclists, if they can’t see the truck/choose to ignore it and fail to realise their responsibilities then they shouldn’t start bleating when they’re in the ditch bleeding.

On SKY SPORTS NOW, best comment yet: “It’s about respect all round…” but I doubt the muppets whether in a car, truck or on a bike will heed anything suggested/legislated for.

triple-tango:
‘…Hmmm, they also have a RIGHT to ignore the highway code too…?’

You surely know that the answer is ‘no’ :unamused:

Assuming that you’re registered to vote, why not ask your candidates for this week’s coming Police Commisioner election when they plan to assert the law on their bit of Britain’s road network :question:

My guess is that many of us won’t - in which case the comment…

triple-tango:
‘…I’m afraid I have no time at all for cyclists … Ban cycles …’

Is simply stoking the UK Government’s gutless, pro-EU habit of fermenting ‘diversity’ (for which read ‘loathing and intolerance’) amongst us - and is proving to be doing British Society no good at all :exclamation:

Why wouldn’t you give cyclists a wide berth…?

As already mentioned they have as much right to be on the public highway as anybody else, even though some are desperate to be a case study for Darwin’s Theory of Evolution. However certain cyclists do not have a monopoly on this, as this can apply to several other individuals from the wide range of other road users including HGV drivers. :wink:

But answer this if you were in a bar by yourself and somebody came up to you dressed head to tail in bright lycra and spandex slightly overweight panting and perspiring.

Wouldn’t you give them a wide berth…? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Sounds like an ideal pub, where is it?

triple-tango:
I’ve also waited behind a [zb] on a bike while I was driving an artic, then I carefully overtook him. A mile later he took me on the inside on a roundabout!

So have I, but at the end of the day there are as many stupid cyclists for every stupid ‘motorist’. I pulled out to let a truck off the slip road on the m6 yesterday and he sped up and stayed half way behind me for 4 or 5 miles before we hit a hill, I was then able to pull back in. It doesn’t mean that every trucker is a div though. Oh and I don’t wear lycra on my bike either, but it may surprise you to know that I’m not fat like ALL truckers. I say ALL truckers because you seem to group everyone together (not all cyclists wear lycra, not all truckers are fat)