Lawrence Dunbar:
Thank you Dennis, I stand correceted , Those Stamper motors were seen all over the place no matter where you went they seemed to be there, is the Penrith one still operating ? Regards Larry.
I believe the confusion used to arise because the colour schemes were the same ( Glasgow & Penrith) and the Culgaith fleet was more of a red shade, however they all used that diamond shape on the doors for the names.I believe that Geoff passed away recently and as far as I recall his son Mike Stamper had his own business on Block haulage,I don’t know what is happening to Geoffs business,maybe someone from Penrith will enlighten us ? Cheers Dennis.
Hi Bewick and Lawrence, Yes Dennis is right about the Stamper family, Did you know Geof passed away about five or six weeks ago.
I bought an ERF 66GX six wheeler from him in 1969 (NAO 158F) best wagon I ever had. The identical sixwheeler that replace the one I bought appears on the vintage lorry scene these days. ARM 80J. Note the super singles on the rear bogie which Geof replaced with twins when I acquired the motor. John Burrell reckoned it bounced across the road from white line to verge like a rugby ball when running empty. Dennis I think our posts have crossed.
Cheers Leyland 600.
Leyland600:
Hi Bewick and Lawrence, Yes Dennis is right about the Stamper family, Did you know Geof passed away about five or six weeks ago.
I bought an ERF 66GX six wheeler from him in 1969 (NAO 158F) best wagon I ever had. The identical sixwheeler that replace the one I bought appears on the vintage lorry scene these days. ARM 80J. Note the super singles on the rear bogie which Geof replaced with twins when I acquired the motor. John Burrell reckoned it bounced across the road from white line to verge like a rugby ball when running emoty. Dennis I think our posts have crossed.
Cheers Leyland 600.0
Interesting gen there L600,they sure were big Gardner users the Stamper “clan”,I think Gordon was involved heavily in the development of the 240 LXB,but,of course,he passed away a bit earlier than could have been expected so he never got to see the full impact the 240 had on the haulage world.For many years one of Geoffs main customers was Massey Ferguson and I believe they did all the spares deliveries from Trafford Park to Scotland.He also ran some Atki 6 wheeler tippers out of the BSC quarry ( now Corus) in the 60’s and early 70’s.
Leyland600:
Hi Bewick and Lawrence, Yes Dennis is right about the Stamper family, Did you know Geof passed away about five or six weeks ago.
I bought an ERF 66GX six wheeler from him in 1969 (NAO 158F) best wagon I ever had. The identical sixwheeler that replace the one I bought appears on the vintage lorry scene these days. ARM 80J. Note the super singles on the rear bogie which Geof replaced with twins when I acquired the motor. John Burrell reckoned it bounced across the road from white line to verge like a rugby ball when running emoty. Dennis I think our posts have crossed.
Cheers Leyland 600.0
Was this ERF Single drive or double,I bet it just did bounce a bit when empty,how much ULW would have been saved with running it on S/singles? Cheers Dennis.
Im sorry to here that Geof Stamper has passed away, I met him once at a RHA Function his mother was there also , I found them to be very nice people to share an evening with, but of course thats quite a long time ago, but still nice mems to say the least, Regards Larry.
Hi Bewick . The ERF was single drive two speed axle from a David Brown six speed box. 52 mph flat out. John Burrel drove this wagon on the Massey Harris contract. I cannot remember the ULW exactly but used to carry about 14 1/2 tons as a flat. at 22 tons gross. I had it uprated to 24 tons by having heavier front springs fitted about 1972.
Cheers Leyland 600.
Leyland600:
Hi Bewick . The ERF was single drive two speed axle from a David Brown six speed box. 52 mph flat out. John Burrel drove this wagon on the Massey Harris contract. I cannot remember the ULW exactly but used to carry about 14 1/2 tons as a flat. at 22 tons gross. I had it uprated to 24 tons by having heavier front springs fitted about 1972.
Cheers Leyland 600.
So,it’s ERF night to-night !! Snap,L600,this is a shot of one of the motors I aquired when we bought the K.Fell/J.B.Hudson cos. off Davy & Co (Grange) Ltd. It was identical to yours but 1972 “K” reg,150LX,6 spd.DB/Eaton 2 speed,but it was a 24 ton GVW.It’s main job at the time we bought them out was Libby’s to the South and pick ups for K shoes twice a week from around the east midlands area.I can’t just re-call how long we kept it, but it wasn’t too long as we replaced it with a new 30:5 GVW Sed/atk unit LXB 180/6spd DB/Eaton 2 speed.This tractor pulled mainly pulled a 37ft Crane/F trailer which was a far better proposition as it could load 20ton out of Milnthorpe and it had another 13 ft deck space which was an advantage as when the return traffic was busy it could usually get it all on instead of us having to send another motor to collect the overflow!! Cheers Dennis.
My ERF was rather unique in having American manufactered Air o Matic power steering which was pretty trouble free the only downside being when on farm deliveries and unloading from the rear as the weight increase on the steering and a lot of shunting was required to get in and out of a lot of ■■■■■■■■ farm yards plus lots of others in Nothumberland and South West Scotland the air supply in general used to get used up thus less assistance being available from the Air o Matic system. Nevertheless it was a very reliable economic wagon to operate and cost me very little in the 4 years I operated it.
Cheers. Leyland 600
Leyland600:
My ERF was rather unique in having American manufactered Air o Matic power steering which was pretty trouble free the only downside being when on farm deliveries and unloading from the rear as the weight increase on the steering and a lot of shunting was required to get in and out of a lot of ■■■■■■■■ farm yards plus lots of others in Nothumberland and South West Scotland the air supply in general used to get used up thus less assistance being available from the Air o Matic system. Nevertheless it was a very reliable economic wagon to operate and cost me very little in the 4 years I operated it.
Cheers. Leyland 600
Well ■■■■ it L600,Air-o-matic steering !!! We had it fitted to an Atki Borderer that should have had ZF,which Scotts of Penrith forgot to order!! It was OK up to a point but as you say you could soon exhaust the air pressure.One place that could be terrifying with this tractor was coming over the level crossing at Staveley which was at an angle to the road,well as the first wheel hit the crossing before the second one it would start off a ■■■ for tat fight between the air pistons and did it wobble !!! You litrally had to pull up and then set off again!! We had the same system fitted to a new Seddon 32:4 we supplied to the Paper Mill at the same time we got the Atki and believe me you wouldn’t think it was the same system,it was perfect on the Seddon absolutely faultless!! Cheers Dennis.
Hi Bewick, I never experienced this phenomena from the Air o Matic sytem at all however your mention of Stavely level crossing reminded me of the tale in the 1960s of a ■■■■ (Snowball) Stamper from Dearham Albion Chieftain heading home with a load of cattle cake out of BOCM Trafford Park approaching the crossing at a rate of knots with the driver probably only half awake after a long day suddenly realising the gates were closed and the Albion would not stop so he took avoiding action by heading straight through the adjoining field gate without marking a sheet or rope. However when they tried to back it out they found it impossible without rubbing a gate stoop and damaging the sheet etc. I checked this story this morning with my mate who drove a Leyland Steer for Snowball at the time who verified the tale and named the driver who emigrated to Canada not long after where there is more room on the roads and less likelehood of such situations arising again.
Cheers Leyland 600
Hi Hodgeturbo, Turn left at the crossroads coming from Speytri and its on your right, It was the old school It will be gey dark cos theres only yah street leet at Flecky.
Cheers Leyland 600
Leyland600:
Hi Hodgeturbo, Turn left at the crossroads coming from Speytri and its on your right, It was the old school It will be gey dark cos theres only yah street leet at Flecky.
Cheers Leyland 600
Anybody know if “CG” will be attending? Ya’ lamp post 'a’ll be or thats needed to “string 'im up” eh! Bewick.
Leyland600:
Hi Hodgeturbo, Turn left at the crossroads coming from Speytri and its on your right, It was the old school It will be gey dark cos theres only yah street leet at Flecky.
Cheers Leyland 600
Anybody know if “CG” will be attending? Ya’ lamp post 'a’ll be or thats needed to “string 'im up” eh! Bewick.
How did I know you would say that Bewick? As it turns out, I might go. It all depends on what I’m doing
Are you going Bewick?
Kindest regards
CG
Leyland600:
Hi Hodgeturbo, Turn left at the crossroads coming from Speytri and its on your right, It was the old school It will be gey dark cos theres only yah street leet at Flecky.
Cheers Leyland 600
Anybody know if “CG” will be attending? Ya’ lamp post 'a’ll be or thats needed to “string 'im up” eh! Bewick.
How did I know you would say that Bewick? As it turns out, I might go. It all depends on what I’m doing
Are you going Bewick?
Kindest regards
CG
Now “CG” whatever brings you to think that I would ever consider attending a function that also attracted you? Anyhow where’s Fletchtown? I was led to believe it was a place in a Harry Potter film,---------- well it just might be if you are attending a function,you’ll even be able to get “togged” up as one of “eddies” Elves and sit on’t fron’t row with your tub of Popcorn (I suppose it will be green Popcorn,“eddie brand” of course!!) Sorry I can’t see properly through the tears !!! Cheers Bewick.
Dennis You are naughtey , but I like you, This C/G Geaser has a lot to learn about who he is dealing with on this fanastic thread, I think he needs to grow up quite a bit to start understanding the real facts of the old haulage game before he can say anything about it, Other than his fantasey about ESL, Regards Larry, What do you think Dennis, To be fair he is just a boy.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Dennis You are naughtey , but I like you, This C/G Geaser has a lot to learn about who he is dealing with on this fanastic thread, I think he needs to grow up quite a bit to start understanding the real facts of the old haulage game before he can say anything about it, Other than his fantasey about ESL, Regards Larry, What do you think Dennis, To be fair he is just a boy.
He dosen’t know he’s born Larry,he is just a “wet behind the ears” youth trying ,and failing dismally ,to come over as “knowlegeable” amongst “grown ups” who have been around the “clock” a few times,but I suppose he’s harmless and should be treated accordingly.When I was his age I was doing 100hrs some weeks,admittedly some of it 'Zzzzzzzz with my head on the bonnet,but all in all it was hard graft and would never be allowed in to-days “hide bound” World eh! Fortunately Larry we are from the different planet of “Yesteryear” and I’ve no desire to emigrate to the modern day Planet of to-days steering wheel jockey’s and curtain pullers No Sir !! Cheers Dennis.
Nore have I dennis, I will just sit back & enjoy my malts, & watch the world go by, But mind you I did enjoy the old days, when I first started in the haulage game as as young lad in the 50s, & worked with some great old timmers that I learnt from, mind you I learned the hard way, but that was the only way in them hard owld days & I loved every minute of it & sadley to say a lot of theold lads I worked with are long gone, but never to be forgotten well not by me anyway, Regards Larry.
