Crash today M25

Just been watching on the news this evening, with live footage, didn’t look too clever :frowning:
The news reporter said that two lorry drivers had been arrested on suspicion of dangerous driving.
Got to ask, why do we all push ourselves to the extremes, taking risks, driving to the limit.
is it all really worth it :frowning: :frowning:

One fatality :frowning:

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Don’t know what caused it but that stretch is a bugger when the suns low and we’ve had a descent bit of sun today.

karl67:
Don’t know what caused it but that stretch is a bugger when the suns low and we’ve had a descent bit of sun today.

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: It happened at mid-day .
Where do you think the sun was, that would cause a problem :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

pierrot 14:
Just been watching on the news this evening, with live footage, didn’t look too clever :frowning:
The news reporter said that two lorry drivers had been arrested on suspicion of dangerous driving.
Got to ask, why do we all push ourselves to the extremes, taking risks, driving to the limit.
is it all really worth it :frowning: :frowning:

Well, it won’t have anything to do with tailgating truck drivers!!

By the looks of it it was right on the junction which has always been a nightmare.

The exact reason why you shouldn’t mess with trucks, hope lessons are learnt & hope the truck drivers are cleared…

I would like to think it was no fault of the lorry drivers but sadly driver error on the part of a motorist :frowning:
Why do motorist not respect lorry drivers at the end of the day we are also car drivers.

Pimpdaddy:
The exact reason why you shouldn’t mess with trucks, hope lessons are learnt & hope the truck drivers are cleared…

Would you not prefer for justice to prevail and for the lorry drivers, if found to be responsible, to be punished accordingly for causing the death of another human being?

Oh no, of course you wouldn’t; you’re TruckNet’s biggest wet chin aren’t you?

Despite the popular belief, it is not “standard procedure” to arrest lorry drivers on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving after every fatal collision.

They were arrested for a reason. I’m not saying they’re guilty, but there would have been a good reason for their arrests. There were three HGVs involved but only two arrests made, remember?

Now run along and play with your toy trucks, leave this discussion to the adults.

pierrot 14:

karl67:
Don’t know what caused it but that stretch is a bugger when the suns low and we’ve had a descent bit of sun today.

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: It happened at mid-day .
Where do you think the sun was, that would cause a problem :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

If you’re travelling clockwise (southbound) towards the bridge 29-30 M25, then you’re going to have the sun in your face around midday.

Also, our eyes are knackered from weeks and weeks of overcast skies. The F16 mode is well and truly broke!

The big problem of being a trucker in an accident nowdays is that if you die you’re dead, and if you live you’re apparently dangerous driving in the eyes of the public, if the other bystander dies.
lose/lose in other words. :frowning:

I’m already wondering if truckers are as unpopular as bankers, estate agents, and employment agencies at this time. :confused:

its time we shoved all these lorrys off the roads and made them use the railways again, most motorways are clogged up with haulage these days, theyre a nuissance and a hindrance

  • alexander, north west, 2/4/2013 19:05
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Don’t you just love ■■■■■■■ like that! Would love to see their face if their town couldn’t get any deliveries for a day :smiling_imp:

Will_161:
its time we shoved all these lorrys off the roads and made them use the railways again, most motorways are clogged up with haulage these days, theyre a nuissance and a hindrance

  • alexander, north west, 2/4/2013 19:05
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Don’t you just love [zb] like that! Would love to see their face if their town couldn’t get any deliveries for a day :smiling_imp:

Love it!! What we should do is have a national truck drivers strike, no food in the shops, no fuel at the pumps etc etc. Bring the country to a standstill then the idiots like Alexander, north west would maybe change his pathetic attitude.

Look at the car directly behind downtowns :open_mouth:

dc2010:
I would like to think it was no fault of the lorry drivers but sadly driver error on the part of a motorist :frowning:
Why do motorist not respect lorry drivers at the end of the day we are also car drivers.

They do not respect us because most of us drive in a manner with no regard for others safety.Everyday you see the majority of trucks traveling far too close to the vehicle in front.They leave no room for error and when something unexpected happens this is the result.
It will keep happening until something is done to get these selfish idiots off our roads.
Someone even tries to blame the sun shining in peoples eyes rather than just admit it is idiots driving dangerously.PATHETIC.

albion1971:

dc2010:
I would like to think it was no fault of the lorry drivers but sadly driver error on the part of a motorist :frowning:
Why do motorist not respect lorry drivers at the end of the day we are also car drivers.

They do not respect us because most of us drive in a manner with no regard for others safety.Everyday you see the majority of trucks traveling far too close to the vehicle in front.They leave no room for error and when something unexpected happens this is the result.
It will keep happening until something is done to get these selfish idiots off our roads.
Someone even tries to blame the sun shining in peoples eyes rather than just admit it is idiots driving dangerously.PATHETIC.

Agree with your post Albion apart from one bit, I would say a lot of us rather than “most”

pierrot 14:

albion1971:

dc2010:
I would like to think it was no fault of the lorry drivers but sadly driver error on the part of a motorist :frowning:
Why do motorist not respect lorry drivers at the end of the day we are also car drivers.

They do not respect us because most of us drive in a manner with no regard for others safety.Everyday you see the majority of trucks traveling far too close to the vehicle in front.They leave no room for error and when something unexpected happens this is the result.
It will keep happening until something is done to get these selfish idiots off our roads.

I think youll find most truck drivers do leave a safe gap for error but when a car drivers see a space there little car will fit they will just pull into it not thinking it might take that 40T lorry now behind me longer to stop… that winds me up im not leaving a gap for you to pull into

apparently there has been another accident on exactly same bit as yesterday!

pierrot 14:

albion1971:

dc2010:
I would like to think it was no fault of the lorry drivers but sadly driver error on the part of a motorist :frowning:
Why do motorist not respect lorry drivers at the end of the day we are also car drivers.

They do not respect us because most of us drive in a manner with no regard for others safety.Everyday you see the majority of trucks traveling far too close to the vehicle in front.They leave no room for error and when something unexpected happens this is the result.
It will keep happening until something is done to get these selfish idiots off our roads.
Someone even tries to blame the sun shining in peoples eyes rather than just admit it is idiots driving dangerously.PATHETIC.

Agree with your post Albion apart from one bit, I would say a lot of us rather than “most”

OK i agree I just get wound up by it and some of the pathetic comments on here.Yes a lot.

samstone90:

pierrot 14:

albion1971:

dc2010:
I would like to think it was no fault of the lorry drivers but sadly driver error on the part of a motorist :frowning:
Why do motorist not respect lorry drivers at the end of the day we are also car drivers.

They do not respect us because most of us drive in a manner with no regard for others safety.Everyday you see the majority of trucks traveling far too close to the vehicle in front.They leave no room for error and when something unexpected happens this is the result.
It will keep happening until something is done to get these selfish idiots off our roads.

I think youll find most truck drivers do leave a safe gap for error but when a car drivers see a space there little car will fit they will just pull into it not thinking it might take that 40T lorry now behind me longer to stop… that winds me up im not leaving a gap for you to pull into

You must drive on different roads from me then if you think they leave a safe gap.Your poor excuse of cars filling gaps just proves one thing about you.

albion1971:

dc2010:
Someone even tries to blame the sun shining in peoples eyes rather than just admit it is idiots driving dangerously.PATHETIC.

Who said about blaming the sun ?
I would still blame the driver everytime as they never drive to the conditions they are constantly up each others arse flat out.