Crash for cash caught on Roadhawk

2 cars working together seems really well drilled and very difficult to avoid :confused:

was that really a set up■■? i’d have thought the car occupants wouldnt have got out after the crash, thought they would have been pretending to be in all sorts of agony in the car

Made it quite obvious thankfully all on camera, the merc had no need to stay stopped.

Interesting video, the camera view is the same as the view from the front camera on the bus I drive.
If that was me driving a bus, my company would blame me, should have kept enough braking distance…

i see what you mean, i thought all the “cash for crash” stitch ups were realtively low speed crashes,

just hope they get done for it

Truck driver was driving too fast and too close.

From the video description:
Police believe this to be a “decoy rear end shunt” two cars are involved. Watch the video carefully. When the lorry driver pulls in to the left hand lane the Mercedes closes the gap between itself and the car in front. The VW Golf makes a sudden turn causing the Merc to brake hard. The Golf is used as a decoy to give the Merc the excuse of having to stop quickly.

I must be missing something here, it looked to me like the Merc was pulling away from the truck before the accident, ok the need to stop was not really there, but drivers do that sort of thing when they get flustered… My take on this is the truck was at fault, too close and not watching what was happening in front of him. Lucky the video was running, it shows the fault is with the truck. I do not for one minute believe a car will purposely allow itself to be rammed by a truck at that sort of speed, it is far to fast to be a set up!

Hi all. First post - go easy on me! I think it was set up 1,only brake light, maybe done to help the ‘accident’ 2, well rehersed. Would you really be thinking straight to put on hazzards after a bad shunt like that and wouldn’t you just sit there for a minute and go WTF! Did happen to me last year- A13 near Blackwall, 4 lads in LT reg car brake tested me. As it happens I braked faster but it was close
Dave

I agree it looks a pretty much like the truck drivers fault, and the guys in the car are really taking a hell of a risk to delibertly get rear ended at that speed.

But the the blurb on youtube does say that

On later inspection the insurance company involved deemed the video to be suspect and handed it over to the Police. After a long investigation the police have busted a huge crash for cash ring involving over 120 incidents in the last year, possibly totalling more than ÂŁ3m of insurance fraud!

It looks like only a fool breaks the two second rule, but the Police seem to think it is a scam!

Must crash on anyway. :wink:

What did he stop for? Not sure its crash for cash though, just ■■■■■■■ stupidity.

If that’s a scam its very well executed, maybe they gambled on the lorry driver being frustrated at not being able to overtake earlier. At the start of the vid we see the car being overtaken and then pulling away, leaving the truck stranded in lane 2, maybe it’s been going on for a couple of miles and it’s clouded the judgement of the lorry driver.

merc0447:
‘… 2 cars working together seems really well drilled and very difficult to avoid …’

So without getting paranoid about it, is it both reasonable & healthy to conclude that all road idiots in front are potential scammers and to treat them as such?

Surely, the answer’s ‘yes’? :neutral_face:

Dont like to blame the truck but you must look ahead and be ready,junction two cars close he should have been ready to pull out or drop back

It’s called driving defensively.

If this is a genuine crash for cash, then the police would have the evidence that the Merc was driving far too close to the Golf, so close in fact, that you can hardly see it for most of the vid from that high camera angle.

But also, the truck driver was too close. He should have backed off more when the two cars slowed, as he couldn’t overtake.

It is a good warning though. “Drive so you can stop in the distance you can see to be clear.”

Tone

i agree with the other its far too fast to be a setup unless the rozzers found a link between the car drivers normally the decoy would be long gone and not tracable

if the truck driver had kept a good distance from the car in front he would have been able to avoid this accident.
remember…not only do you need breaking distance but also thinking distance.

There must have been something that aroused the suspicion of the insurance company to get the police involved in what looks like a run of the mill rear shunt , maybe it flagged up on thier database that the car driver had been involved in the same sort of incident before :question:

From looking at it the driver seems to keep his distance with the 2 seconds for most of the way after he comes back in. The pair of cars seem to slow back down for the junction, and the lorry then catches back up and isn’t 2 seconds away. The merc then stops for what is no reason at all. If the merc was far enough away from the car infront it wouldnt have happened.
My thought when it happened was that they hoped the truck would ram the merc into the golf causing 2 lots of claims, but it failed and only the merc got a hit. Not sure about that though.