Like most I thought DVSa bloke or bloke who
Attends and checks cpc courses are being done
Correctly was a load of ■■■■■■■■ as I’ve never
Seen anyone , sitting there for the full
8 hrs including breaks because he might turn
Up was ■■■■■■■■
But at 8 am who turns up the inspector ,
Now he does a speech and the one I picked
Up on was he wasn’t happy at all about
Drivers doing cpc days on the same subject ,
5x 7 hrs on stress / anxiety
He then proceeded to say drivers were being
Reported to the traffic commissioner for doing this !!
It wasn’t acceptable & it was the drivers job to
Make sure he booked his cpc days on different
Subjects
Never said what result would be but I’d be
Careful of booking 5 days on same subject
Give the man my name I’d love to take the ■■■■■ on. They invented the system they can ■■■■■■■ live by it.
Well, if that were the case, (and it’s not,) I would pay money to have the opportunity to point out to the commissioner that the quality of the training was so bad, that even having done 5 consecutive days on tacho training, I still hadn’t a clue.
Point him in my direction. I’ll happily wave my shiny new cpc card in front of him whilst I show him the drivers jaupt page showing four identical units.
He can dislike it all he wants, the system allows it.
Nite Owl:
He can dislike it all he wants, the system allows it.
For now apparently, I was told today that it is going to be all change as from 2020 and there will be a written test included. Again, how true all this is I do not know.
When I done my CPC last year it was with a bunch of Romanians who couldn’t speak English.
They passed.
Duck CPC.
Twoninety88:
For now apparently, I was told today that it is going to be all change as from 2020 and there will be a written test included. Again, how true all this is I do not know.
Well if that is the case all this ‘‘driver shortage’’ bull crap will suddenly be actually genuine.
I know of quite a few good drivers (and no doubt there will be some ■■■■ poor ones also) who aint academically inclined shall we say, and are hopeless in a test/exam situation.
I agree with you Rob, I liked to think I can hold my own when it comes to recollection of facts then a question and multiple answer session. We did two such exercises today. mock exam in a quiz type format. I was damned if I could remember half of the ‘facts’ when trying to recall what had been said to me, my ‘score’ was not as good as i thought it would be!
However, it may at least sort out the ones who’s spoken and written English is almost non existant. But then again they can always send off some cash back to home and probably get the equivelent without sitting there as bored as I have been the last two days…oh well, 2 down , 3 to go.
Twoninety88:
Nite Owl:
He can dislike it all he wants, the system allows it.For now apparently, I was told today that it is going to be all change as from 2020 and there will be a written test included. Again, how true all this is I do not know.
It’s not a written test as such as it’s not a pass fail thing it will be 1 paper or pda with multiple choice questions at points throughout the day . It’s more about the quality of the course than us being tested on the content
robroy:
I know of quite a few good drivers (and no doubt there will be some ■■■■ poor ones also) who aint academically inclined shall we say, and are hopeless in a test/exam situation.
Don’t need to be academically inclined to pass a multiple choice question taken at the end of a 3.5hr module - remember you do one subject in the morning, another in the afternoon so would likely take a test on what you did in the morning just before lunch, the afternoon one just before you go home. You just need to have been awake and listening. It is considerably different to taking an exam at the end of a course lasting months or years.
adam277:
When I done my CPC last year it was with a bunch of Romanians who couldn’t speak English.They passed.
Duck CPC.
what did they pass
Twoninety88:
Nite Owl:
He can dislike it all he wants, the system allows it.For now apparently, I was told today that it is going to be all change as from 2020 and there will be a written test included. Again, how true all this is I do not know.
I’ve heard this too. Apparently the UK is going to beef up the Driver CPC after Brexit, when we are no longer constrained by EU red tape from bringing in more red tape all of our own.
Don’t blame me…I voted Remain. 
Does anyone else think it ironic that Dozy is doing ‘stress and anxiety’ five times on the bounce?
I did the French equivalent (fimo) back in 2008. This included multiple choice papers on what had been discussed (note that the course was a two way street and we had to be involved at all times not just listen to the spiel - it made my head hurt cos my french was crap) Now I know that by 2024 we won’t be in the EU and so things will have changed but the French fimo was the module that Europe took on board as the french brought it in in about 1998 .We will still have the DCPC after Brexit and it develop along these lines as this is the nature of these things.
Perhaps… this is why it is regarded as more of a profession in France than it is here - because it is slightly more difficult to get in to it.
I’m all for making DCPC a pass or fail situation, for two reasons: (1) it would hopefully force training centres to provide only decent, relevant courses that have actual validity for jobbing drivers, and (2) perhaps when there’s a test in the offing it might shut up those drivers who think it’s ok to sit there all day jabbering to their mates while some of us are actually wanting to listen, this is especially the case when the trainer is doing Drivers Hours/WTD/RTD etc.
As for academic inclination, it’s not going to be any harder than the ADR course or the current LGV theory exam, and these aren’t a major hurdle for the average driver, so I don’t see what the problem is.
Written tests, whether multiple guess or written answers require all candidates to be assessed for ANY learning needs, before the teaching can begin.
You can not teach/waffle for seven hours, slap a test down and assume a driver (or other LGV/PSV holder) can read and write.
This is why there is no test presently in the DCPC, if though many companies tag one in at the end.
Sixties boy:
Written tests, whether multiple guess or written answers require all candidates to be assessed for ANY learning needs, before the teaching can begin.
You can not teach/waffle for seven hours, slap a test down and assume a driver (or other LGV/PSV holder) can read and write.
This is why there is no test presently in the DCPC, if though many companies tag one in at the end.
Decent training centres ask trainees if they have any special needs. I have a friend who suffers from dyslexia so much he’s functionally illiterate but he managed to pass the full CPC, the one you have to have to be a TM, and currently drives petrol tankers so a DCPC test is well within the reach of any candidate.
If you can’t read at all then you shouldn’t be in a truck on health and safety grounds just the same as someone who is colour blind can be refused employment or even training working with electrics and electronics.
do not know if true or not but
The first part of what you wrote suggests that the second part is a rumour, so…it’s gone!! dd.
Zac_A:
I’m all for making DCPC a pass or fail situation, for two reasons: (1) it would hopefully force training centres to provide only decent, relevant courses that have actual validity for jobbing drivers, and (2) perhaps when there’s a test in the offing it might shut up those drivers who think it’s ok to sit there all day jabbering to their mates while some of us are actually wanting to listen, this is especially the case when the trainer is doing Drivers Hours/WTD/RTD etc.As for academic inclination, it’s not going to be any harder than the ADR course or the current LGV theory exam, and these aren’t a major hurdle for the average driver, so I don’t see what the problem is.
There’s no way in the world that the DCPC would ever be configured so that anyone with an HGV licence would be unable to drive an HGV. Can you really see Mr Tesco, Mr Stobart, Mr DHL etc being prepared to tolerate a 40% overnight reduction in the driver pool?
Here’s a thought that just occurred to me.
Why don’t they give us the written test at the start of the day? Those that pass because they’re know their job (most of us I’d like to think) get to go straight home whilst the failures can have some much needed training [emoji2]