Interesting developments in longer trucks Department. Could be good BUT I feel the Denby concept is just needlessly complicated. I think the Scandinavian idea much better, basically a rigid towing a normal length semi trailer
What weight are they proposing for nine axles, 65 tonne?
A B double configuration will track far better than a body and dog.
Denby didn’t seem to look at how the two semi trailer idea is doing on the continent even. With Denby you seem to have one trailer almost useless except for trunking and no good at all if you need it to be a box trailer or fridge, the Dutch and others have a sliding bogey on front trailer to covert it into a normal short trailer
I can imagine the average amazon yard marshall having a meltdown if one of these rocked up at one of their DCs 
switchlogic:
Denby didn’t seem to look at how the two semi trailer idea is doing on the continent even. With Denby you seem to have one trailer almost useless except for trunking and no good at all if you need it to be a box trailer or fridge, the Dutch and others have a sliding bogey on front trailer to covert it into a normal short trailer0
That’s going to give the single drive a fair old work out.
From what I gather the trailers are to be longer enough to have 6 extra cages in them so what is that - 2m longer 
ROG:
From what I gather the trailers are to be longer enough to have 6 extra cages in them so what is that - 2m longer
Aren’t 15m trailers already on trial? So basically able to use them
switchlogic:
ROG:
From what I gather the trailers are to be longer enough to have 6 extra cages in them so what is that - 2m longerAren’t 15m trailers already on trial? So basically able to use them
Yes they are and now it seems the trial is over with good results
Ah good stuff
There was a wagon and drag trialled some time back with a full length rigid body designed (I think) to take 5 full size air cargo containers which iirc would put the body alone at 50ft in old money. This one rigid body was mounted onto the bendy vehicle by some odd arrangement of a kind of sliding 5th wheel, and used to frighten the bejesus out of people when it went round a bend as it looked like the box was coming off!
I don’t remember who made it, but I gather it wasn’t a great success!
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
Can see it now, Stobars attendee hitches up a 13’6 on front, then a 14.6. on the dolly, could be fun, or gets lost in a town centre…
Yea I can just picture EE drivers getting stuck with it xD.
I know some firms with A-frame trailer have a tug though for reversing a-frame trailers.
I imagine with these some firms could just have a similar tug and the driver just has to drop it in the yard.
Accidents waiting to happen if you ask me (which nobody did!), but that aside, there’s been enough problems with double deckers. Bridge strikes, extea mileage/costs for re-routing, additional loading/unloading times, new infrastructure at stores and DCs for bays etc.
That doesn’t even cover bad driving. Seen any overnight pallet firms fish tailing after an overtake lately!!! Just imagine when drivers start cutting across roundabout lanes or tight and blind country bends in these things. I follow wagons that can’t stay in their lanes with 10-13m trailers now. God help us all with 25m!!!
WhiteTruckMan:
There was a wagon and drag trialled some time back with a full length rigid body designed (I think) to take 5 full size air cargo containers which iirc would put the body alone at 50ft in old money. This one rigid body was mounted onto the bendy vehicle by some odd arrangement of a kind of sliding 5th wheel, and used to frighten the bejesus out of people when it went round a bend as it looked like the box was coming off!I don’t remember who made it, but I gather it wasn’t a great success!
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
That was De Rooy, they built it and brought it to the UK once, the ministry were waiting for it and turned it round at the port. He was not welcome here.
Go “off piste” with one of these combinations and it will be a world of pain - the 'tube will be full of them jammed in High Streets and Village Squares.
Wheel Nut:
WhiteTruckMan:
There was a wagon and drag trialled some time back with a full length rigid body designed (I think) to take 5 full size air cargo containers which iirc would put the body alone at 50ft in old money. This one rigid body was mounted onto the bendy vehicle by some odd arrangement of a kind of sliding 5th wheel, and used to frighten the bejesus out of people when it went round a bend as it looked like the box was coming off!I don’t remember who made it, but I gather it wasn’t a great success!
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
That was De Rooy, they built it and brought it to the UK once, the ministry were waiting for it and turned it round at the port. He was not welcome here.
Probably asking a lot, but do you happen to recall why it was turned away? I thought it had been deemed not to be practical for some reason, but was allowed because it fit existing length limits even though it could carry more volume.
I’ve tried googling it, but without success. Not even sure what search terms to use.
WhiteTruckMan:
Wheel Nut:
WhiteTruckMan:
There was a wagon and drag trialled some time back with a full length rigid body designed (I think) to take 5 full size air cargo containers which iirc would put the body alone at 50ft in old money. This one rigid body was mounted onto the bendy vehicle by some odd arrangement of a kind of sliding 5th wheel, and used to frighten the bejesus out of people when it went round a bend as it looked like the box was coming off!I don’t remember who made it, but I gather it wasn’t a great success!
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
That was De Rooy, they built it and brought it to the UK once, the ministry were waiting for it and turned it round at the port. He was not welcome here.
Probably asking a lot, but do you happen to recall why it was turned away? I thought it had been deemed not to be practical for some reason, but was allowed because it fit existing length limits even though it could carry more volume.
I’ve tried googling it, but without success. Not even sure what search terms to use.
These guys seem to have some weird trailers, was it one of these? Face ache link and their website
A big problem with all these longer trailer systems is where’s the infrastructure outside the RDC to accommodate them.
Like for example MSAs or truck parks, how are you going to park for a break? A lot of MSAs aren’t exactly suitable these days for normal trailers. You can’t always have the break at the destination especially if there’s holdups.
Not totally sure most RDCs are that well designed for these extra size trailers as I assume most are designed for trunking. No doubt the beancounters won’t worry about that until it proves a problem too late (no one will ask the drivers or RDC folk).
Oh and as for going off the motorways - that doesn’t happen, at least not usually during the day when the managers are around and who cares about them say shutting the M62 over the top at night. One of these would be fun 
I suspect the vast majority of UK operators will conclude that these will be more hassle than they are worth on our roads, too much scope for trouble.
You couldn’t just chuck some last minute agency ‘bum on a seat’ out with one of these for the night trunk with a dodgy postcode to work with, you would actually need properly trained professional drivers and forward planning