I HATE handing in my keys with a passion,I usually take the ignition key off and hand in the rest and then go back to the wagon
BUT
I went to Costco in Lutterworth,every bay has a trailer wheel lock so you could’nt pull off the bay even if you decided to throw your toys out the pram.so you’d think that this would alleviate the necessity to hand your keys in…
But no
you have to hand your keys in aswell and stand with 50 other drivers in a room which is big enough for only 10 and stand there drinking minging coffee from a coffee machine until tipped ,no food or proper rest as you are not allowed back to your vehicle.and there are no canteen facilities for drivers (except the said coffee machine)
I could say more but im getting wound up writing about it
i have tipped in tossco upto 4 times a week for the last three years and they have always been a bunch of misrable gits
i know that they had to bring in the key stealing after a driver pulled off the bay just as the fork lift was on the ramp and nearly went off the end . i was told this after asking .
i never use the drivers room . hand the keys in then head back to my bunk
i always thought that to be classed as a room it had to have a celing but its a vast improvement to having to stand next to the bay waiting for them to tip you . one day it took them an hour and 1/4 to start tipping me . this is in the chill and you HAD to wait there or they would not tip you
the other thing is the toilet . one toilet for all those drivers at the gatehouse . i am conviced this against the law and HSE guidelines
A mate of mine was telling me about tipping at Costco this week (not sure which one). He backed on the bay and was told to hand his keys in. The bays had the same trailer lock you mention. But they insisted he hand his keys in. His point was that there were no facilities for the driver. They said they had no problem with him sitting in his cab. But that would mean leaving the cab unlocked he questioned. Basically tough was the reply. So he did what he always does, handed in a set of keys he carries with (old no longer used keys).
The point being that if something was to go missing from your cab, you would be stuffed!
Before you could say “You misrable gits!” There would be a sign appear on a wall outside saying, The management hold no responsibility for loss or damage to…Blah Blah!
You know the rest.
bikemonkey:
I HATE handing in my keys with a passion,I usually take the ignition key off and hand in the rest and then go back to the wagon
BUT
I went to Costco in Lutterworth,every bay has a trailer wheel lock so you could’nt pull off the bay even if you decided to throw your toys out the pram.so you’d think that this would alleviate the necessity to hand your keys in…
But no
you have to hand your keys in aswell and stand with 50 other drivers in a room which is big enough for only 10 and stand there drinking minging coffee from a coffee machine until tipped ,no food or proper rest as you are not allowed back to your vehicle.and there are no canteen facilities for drivers (except the said coffee machine)
I could say more but im getting wound up writing about it
[zb] place
just about sums the place up ,
we deliver to the stores/ cash and carrys and its alot better and quicker (apart from that miserable [zb] at derby who moans if your 15 minutes early:shock: ),but we still take loads into lutterworth
i think th best bit is when they put the paperwork in that shutte thing but they still have to go and walk down to pick the bloody thing back up.do you still have to pull off the bay before you get your paperwork back.
they did food for children in need (indoor babrbecue) and to be honest i’d rather of gone without
count yourselfs lucky,went to B&Q bridgewater store with nine pallets,booked for 10am got there at 5pm the day before was told night staff dont tip,will do you at 7 next morning,when own wagon comes, he’s in first,then me,after 16 HRS get tipped, all for 20 mins of time that could have been done the night before.
Give in ‘a set of keys’ ( ), walk back to the cab, put the kettle on, enjoy a nice mug of green tea, close my eyes for 30 minutes after I’ve seen the red light change to green, walk back to the office and my notes are waiting for me.
bagpuss:
after a driver pulled off the bay just as the fork lift was on the ramp and nearly went off the end . i was told this after asking .
I would just love to see the H&S report in this incident, and others like it.
But there again, blank pieces of peper don’t really hold much interest for me.
I pulled off a bay a while back, they hadn’t finished tipping me.
That was despite the fact the keys had been taken off me.
The head muppet had walked outside the building, given me he keys back and told me to pull off and wait over by the office.
Pity he hadn’t bothered to check to see if I had been unloaded and it was safe to pull off.
I suggested to the redfaced one on the bay, that the only person whose life was at risk was the forkie, and under H&S, wouldn’t it be a good idea if it were the forkie who held the keys.
After all, the forkie doesn’t give a stuff if he knows that the office muppet and his dog knows he’s safe, HE wants to know he’s safe, no-one else matters to him, and it’s his life at risk.
To be quite honest, I think the H&S muppets in companies have gone too far in their hitleresque quest for H&S and are only really justifying their own existance by coming up with all sorts of alleged H&S rulings, most of which have no sound basis in H&S, just their own self importance.
And Yes, it does say on the back of my HiVis, "I’m only wearing this to cover someone elses a**e.
And there is nothing in the H&S manual that says I can’t have it on there.
As for having to wear a plastic hat when loading a container on, can someone please tell me exactly what use it will be if the container drops onto my head, or even a glancing blow.
Kindly explain to me….what bloody excuse is there for handing in a fake set of keys■■?
Each company has it’s own H&S rules….to which r implemented for various reasons which may not make immediate sense…but r quite often justified when explained…normally due to previous incident….or just bureaucratic ■■■■■■■■ to cover their arse because of this Americanised way we live today of suing just for a pin prick…….Either which way it their rules and should be adhere to…….
Most of all though is the fact that handing in your correct keys….is mainly for the benefit and safety of the person tipping/loading…………
None of us is perfect!!!...It’s so easy to make that one time slip up………and it only takes that one time.
Heard of one guy whom did what u guy’s r advocating…….He drove off……got back to base/ or a good way down the road…………then realised the fake keys where still at the delivery point………
Imagine if the Green n’ Red unit had gone dickey!!!..………These things do happen…………….poor Mr/Mrs Forkie
Consider the comeback……….
Mr Croft what r u ■■■■■■■■ about…….u’re delivery wasn’t till the following day……you arrived early……the night shift have others things they could complete within that 20mins…………just not your lucky day…….turn up when your booked
next time
Er, my reason Smiley, is that my 24V kettle will only work when the 24V socket in my Actros is live, and this is only the case when the ignition key turned to position I.
I would never dream of moving off a bay without getting my ‘keys’ back first.
F-fenman…i’m certainly not saying you or anyone would endanger the tipper/loaders life on purpose…just a slip up on one day…is enough…
For the sake of others sacrifice that cup of tea/coffee…or heat the water up and pour it in a flask before u get there… I understand not being able to listen to the radio in a Scania…is very annoy…(dumb ■■■■ designers)…
If it’s your truck get it rewired…it’s not hard to do…(just don’t tell the boss…if it’s rented)…If not get a MP3 player or such…a set of headphones…switch the night heater on and chill…
SuperSmiley:
Kindly explain to me?.what bloody excuse is there for handing in a fake set of keys?
It’s not unknown for drivers to have stuff stolen from cabs whilst in RDCs. If you choose to lock your cab, then you can’t get back in to it until you get the keys back which could be hours later.
flying_fenman:
and I am not colour blind either!!
I am (red-green). It’s not normally a problem for standard traffic lights because the shades of red and green are chosen intelligently such that it’s very difficult to confuse them. However, the LED ones that they put in at a lot of RDCs are often quite difficult to distinguish. For this reason, when I think I’ve got a green light, I always walk up to the back of the trailer and make sure the dock leveller is disengaged from the trailer (and, if possible, the door is closed) before pulling away.
There are ways of ensuring H&S other than blanket “you must hand in your keys”.
MrFlibble:
I am [colour blind] (red-green). It’s not normally a problem for standard traffic lights
Well I just hope I’m never at traffic lights anywhere near you on the days that it is a problem . In my opinion, from what you’ve said you shouldn’t be allowed behind a wheel.
SuperSmiley:
Each company has it’s own H&S rules….to which r implemented for various reasons which may not make immediate sense…but r quite often justified when explained…
So what reason might there be for refusing the use of a toilet. Not something a driver is asking for out of luxury or to annoy anyone, just one of those basic human needs. Maybe we should all pee where we stand and see how that goes down.
MrFlibble:
I am [colour blind] (red-green). It’s not normally a problem for standard traffic lights
Well I just hope I’m never at traffic lights anywhere near you on the days that it is a problem .
Just a figure of speech. I don’t have a problem distinguishing the traffic light colours from each other.
Carl Usher:
In my opinion, from what you’ve said you shouldn’t be allowed behind a wheel.
Well [zb] you.
If it was considered to be that dangerous, I wouldn’t pass a medical, would I?
The white-green of normal traffic lights is easy to distinguish, it’s the more pea-green of the LED lights they’re using on loading bays that’s more of a problem. On the road, the danger is mixing up red and amber lights with other similarly-coloured lights (low-pressure sodium streetlighting, for example). Of course, since I know about it, I take precautions to compensate, focussing a bit more of my attention on looking for lights than the average person. Perhaps we should ban everyone with even slightly impaired hearing from driving, on the grounds that the might not be able to hear a horn? Oh, and of course everyone without perfect 20:20 vision must be banned as a precaution
grumpybum:
Maybe we should all pee where we stand and see how that goes down.
I have threatened to do that on more then one occasion at RDC’s where I have been refused the use of a toilet - amazing how quick they find one you can use when the ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ is about to make an appearance
I always ask if my stuff is covered by their insureance when sites take my phone etc off me or if i am made to hand in my keys and have to let the truck out of my sight, I have before now made someone come fetch them from me and bring them back to me as I would not leave my cab unlocked they had no waiting area and told me i had to return to my cab.
I really think the problem is the truck designers without my keys I can’t lock or unlock the doors from outside, the radio turns off every 20 mins and I can’t operate the electric windows 24v etc, if they designed it so you could use your central locking remote to also allow access to basic electrics I guess less drivers would have a problem handing in their ignition keys. just unclip remote hand in keys and then you have full access to your truck except the ability to start it and drive away.
So what reason might there be for refusing the use of a toilet. Not something a driver is asking for out of luxury or to annoy anyone, just one of those basic human needs. Maybe we should all pee where we stand and see how that goes down.
well seeing the state of some toilets, im not suprised, sadly its a minority letting the majority down
got told it in felixstowe, and checked with my dad (who was a health and safety officer) and he said they dont have to give you access, but i wonder if its against your human rights or something
i wont deliver to supermarkets or anywhere where you get treated like that, i would rather sit at home not earning
), walk back to the cab, put the kettle on, enjoy a nice mug of green tea, close my eyes for 30 minutes after I’ve seen the red light change to green, walk back to the office and my notes are waiting for me.
