The punishment dished out to the driver who caused the accident involving two cars where both drivers had life threatening injuries defies all logic.She got 5 points on her licence and £100 fine for nearly killing two people.
Then there’s the fella who hit another car pushing the woman into the path of oncoming traffic. He gets an 18 month ban and 300 hours community service. What bloody planet do these magistrates and judges inhabit■■?
I never realised how the level of involvement traffic cops had with crash victims. One spoke of cleaning two children in the morgue so they would be more presentable for the family to identify them. That must be hard. The next time you get pulled by a black rat, try to bear in mind what that officer has seen and done in the past as a direct consequence of bad driving. I’ve certainly found a new respect for the job they do.
Mind how you go…
didn’t see the programme but in my days in the fire service, it was us who had to deal with the dead bodies, most of the coppers would go find some traffic to direct while we filled the body bags and then the coroners wagon would drag them off.
most cases of serious injury RTA’s the coppers would leave the casualties to the ambulance and fire service, not because they were squimish or anything, more to do with the expertise we had in casualty handling and extrication. most traffic cops realise that and let us get on with the job, but occasionally we would get a “new boy” who wanted to show he was in charge. Normally letting them see the inside of a car with a corpse or 2 in it, and grey matter splashed all over the roof lining, was enough to persuade him that a few more road cones needed placing out!
I also watched that programme last night. At first I thought it was going to turn out to be something on a par with the Stobart programmes. Especially those two in the patrol car. When that copper kept licking his fingers “Fiona style”,as he poked his Maccie D meal into his fat gob I almost switched off. But I stuck with it. Then like 44TT, I was shown the other side of what they do, and I to learned something about how they were more deeply involved with the results of RTA,s, than just clearing up the mess, and getting the roadside details written down. From that point on, my opinion changed. I am in total agreement-- (that,s a first 
)-- with everything that 44TonTon has put in his post. Especially with regard the paltry “sentences” doled out by those magistrate. Which amounted to not much more than lightly slapped wrists.
I agree completely. I was foaming at the mouth when I heard the sentence of the woman involved in the head on. When I was 21 I was caught speeding on my motorbike at 99mph on a dual carriageway on a quiet, sunny Sunday morning on a bike capable of much more. I was fined £185 and given 6 points. How the hell can causing a head on accident be deemed as requiring less punishment? I fully admit I broke the Law but I caused no accident, I wasn’t even pulled over, I was done by a hand held gun so it’s not like they pulled me and gave me a telling off, what a joke.
so many people out there who blame the police about how the offenders get away with it all. All we want to do is bang the buggers up and make sure they get a hard sentence for there crime, but, yet again it’s the courts that let this country down and the mug is let free to crime again.
I watched it, I wasnt going to watch it as I wanted to watch something else but I was forced to, anyway my initial impressions was “not another police programme” epspecially when the 2 in the car started bickering but as the programme went on I reliased that they did more than just attend fatal accidents - never reliased that they cleaned up the bodies before being identified 
mickyblue:
All we want to do is bang the buggers up and make sure they get a hard sentence for there crime, but, yet again it’s the courts that let this country down and the mug is let free to crime again.
You should have a word with Ken Clarke, our new Home Secretary Micky. He is proposing reducing the number of prison places by 50,000. as soon as he can get it organized. If he carries on the way he seems to be heading, those “sentences” referred to in this thread, will start to look like Gross Infringements of those 2 driver,s Yooman Rites. 
■■■■, i’ll catch up with it on 4od, wanted to watch it, looked like shows the normal side of the rozzers before having to do their duties. But with regards to the sentences handed out, i agree with no logical pattern. Was watching a police show on sky the other night there was a body found alive in the central reservation. No one else involved etc… then they got called to an RTI at the end of the que…
A guy ran into the back of another car (accidents happen an all that y’know) then guy gets out ■■■■■■ out of his tree 2.5 times over limit. Caused the woman in the front car substantial injuries, and he got a years ban, £180 fine and some community service. Now i know banned and doing CS will have screwed up his life a little bit, but what message does that send out to people? Oh yeah drink and drive there’s no need to worry about jail
When the PC referred to cleaning up those kids before the parents arrived my missus asked if that was normal. It isnt, but from experience you sometimes find yourself more involved than you expected to be. The Police dont usually get involved with casualties at all. Ive been sat in the back of a few cars holding a head still while the roof is removed, got the wet wipes out to clean up a body after being told the relatives are at scene or on their way. Its not my job just like its not theirs but if youre first on scene you make a connection and want to do all you can.
The Police have their role to play and ive been there when theres a delay getting the medics on scene, then they get involved, thats when they sometimes want to do more for the deceased. Working with them a lot i blow hot and cold with the Police but that programmes was the truest ive seen yet. The coppers were honest about what they do, how they work, especially the bloke with the blacked out windows when they didnt agree on how do deal with it.
Mick (Traffic Officer)
A few years ago I lost a good friend when he was killed cycling to work.At the subsquent trial the driver was fined a small amount of money (£200) and 6 points.The cycling community spat nails but were told that the driver was tried for her crime not for the consquences of that crime.
I saw it also. I don’t agree with some of the previous posts - the real heros are the fire and ambulance staff working on those trapped victims, whilst pc plod walked around questioning them. Also, I think it was very disrespectful of those 4 traffic officers to stand around in a hospital and joke about cars, considering they had just dealt with a major rta - yes they can’t be morbid and need to be “normal”, however there is a time and place for that. Ie back at base.
I think the guys involved gave a poor image for their force - that guys attitude in the patrol car with the blues and twos on who was looking into passing cars giving salutes was unbelievable - wasn’t very professional of him - ok he may get cheesed of at poor drivers, but should not show his rage like that!
Did any of you watch the first half when they were showing what complete muppets they are when they are not dealing with fatals?
Last weeks show was brilliant to, the pink shirt phone call was hilarious
ive watched it from the first episode and it certainly does give you a whole new insight into how the police operate and more importantly what they think,the idea of this show is to let them say what they really think although as we all know certain tv programs are made for general viewing so its hard to judge at the moment if they really will be speaking their minds,it certainly was a sorry state of affairs with the sentencing that was passed on the ones who caused the accidents and the death of that old boys wife,i really felt for him… 
but then that just shows how bad things are within our so called “justice system”…
however i thought that soldier lads face was well busted,he certainly wont be driving while tired again…
oscardog:
When the PC referred to cleaning up those kids before the parents arrived my missus asked if that was normal. It isnt, but from experience you sometimes find yourself more involved than you expected to be. The Police dont usually get involved with casualties at all. Ive been sat in the back of a few cars holding a head still while the roof is removed, got the wet wipes out to clean up a body after being told the relatives are at scene or on their way. Its not my job just like its not theirs but if youre first on scene you make a connection and want to do all you can.
The Police have their role to play and ive been there when theres a delay getting the medics on scene, then they get involved, thats when they sometimes want to do more for the deceased. Working with them a lot i blow hot and cold with the Police but that programmes was the truest ive seen yet. The coppers were honest about what they do, how they work, especially the bloke with the blacked out windows when they didnt agree on how do deal with it.Mick (Traffic Officer)
Traffic Officer ■■? What type of Traffic Officer ■■? Let me tell you mate I did 25 years in the cops 16 yrs of which was as a traffic cop…including 6 yrs on the Motorway group turning out of Birch Services on the M62 (now defunct) WHO do you think books bodies into the Morg, strips them, pictures them, goes to tell wifes/husbands/ there partners /kids are dead. I watched that proggie fell across it really missed the first 15 mins. Dont give me this aint normal…it may not be normal in YOUR “traffic officer” world BUT in the world of a real traffic bobbie it was an every day reality. I certainly hope you aint a Highways Agency Womble bud !
In addition to that, I have stood and held a dish of water blessed by a priest (Holy Water) whilst blessing the body of a dead 7yrs old kid in front of its parents…DO NOT GIVE ME…NOT NORMAL ! Sorry folks but sometimes in the real world folk can really P*ss u orf !
yonmons:
In addition to that, I have stood and held a dish of water blessed by a priest (Holy Water) whilst blessing the body of a dead 7yrs old kid in front of its parents…DO NOT GIVE ME…NOT NORMAL ! Sorry folks but sometimes in the real world folk can really P*ss u orf !
as i can understand the gorry side of being a police traffic cop. what ■■■■■■ me of is they give me a 60 quid fine and three points for doing 44 on a duelcaridgeway with no barriers. a 60mph limmit with a lgv. they can do sometimes with a bit of commonsence or discression.
Interesting to see peoples views on this series. Yes there are good and bad in every job there are jobsworths everywhere. Having spent 27 yrs in the police and 12 years of that in traffic I do hope that it does get the message across that its not all about running about in fancy cars booking people.
There some intersting posts on here about the job of a traffic officer at a fatal crash. It is a team effort for everybody involved without getting into points scoring about who deals with those injured .
Oscardog may have attended a few crashes, I don’t know him ,but what i would like to get across is that after the crash has happened and everybody else is back to their base whether it be fire, ambulance, highways etc it is the police who deal with the aftermath. It is the police who do have to break the news to the family and I have had family members act in disbelief, want to fight with you and even run out of the house screaming in grief.
I enjoyed my time in that role but I would not want to go back. There is a breaking point in every human being whether it be your first or 31st fatal . Most people in their life will see a dead body but given their role traffic police ultimately have to attend many fatal crashes . So the next time you are I get stopped for a motoring offence by a ‘black rat’ as much as you may feel like grabbing them by the neck remember that there is a difficult side of the job they face as well.
browncow2:
as i can understand the gorry side of being a police traffic cop. what ■■■■■■ me of is they give me a 60 quid fine and three points for doing 44 on a duelcaridgeway with no barriers. a 60mph limmit with a lgv. they can do sometimes with a bit of commonsence or discression.
Sorry bc2 but if there was no physical divide then it was not a dual carriageway.
When I was younger I used to fancy being a traffic cop, but the thought of having to shovel bits of people up off the m/way then go & tell their loved ones about it completely put me off. I have every respect for you guys that do that job.
DOUBLE STANDARDS - We’ve all heard stories about people being done for eating/drinking behind the wheel of a stationary vehicle, ‘not being in control etc etc’
Then last night Old Bill preaching as usual while eating behind the wheel of his idling car !!! while his mate does someone for having ‘too dark’ a tint on their car windows ?
[zb] JOKE !!
Buycrider:
I also watched that programme last night. At first I thought it was going to turn out to be something on a par with the Stobart programmes. Especially those two in the patrol car. When that copper kept licking his fingers “Fiona style”,as he poked his Maccie D meal into his fat gob I almost switched off. But I stuck with it. Then like 44TT, I was shown the other side of what they do, and I to learned something about how they were more deeply involved with the results of RTA,s, than just clearing up the mess, and getting the roadside details written down. From that point on, my opinion changed. I am in total agreement-- (that,s a first
couldn’t agree more. i said to my mrs, at the start, this is gonna be a police equivalent of the stobart program, but, glad i stuck with it. a couple of the coppers, def came across as muppets, but, as others have said, you get that in all walks of life. turned out to be a sad, but interesting program, the van/camper crash at the end, was very graphic, but, certainly, showed, how it can all go so wrong.