Looks like they are ready to walk out over the Eddie Stobart business in coventry.
It will be interesting to see how this one pans out, although I suspect the drivers will end up achieving SQRT(FA) at the end of the day.
Didn’t Stobart do something similar at Tesco? Drivers were moved to Stobart and they promptly laid them of/made them redundant?
Isn’t the Coop supposed to an ethical company, socialist minded etc, like Tony Bliar then 
If so what’s it doing stitching its staff up by hoofing them off onto that motley crew.
Juddian I’m surprised at you, they are simply following long established socialist practice of sharing their thirst and hunger with someone else’s beer and sandwich 
Things seem to be going from bad to worse for the green crew. One of the Appleton lads told me today that they have lost Proctor & Gamble!
Sounds familair remember tesco Doncaster same tactics?
eagerbeaver:
Things seem to be going from bad to worse for the green crew. One of the Appleton lads told me today that they have lost Proctor & Gamble!
I think ready long time they not do all P@G.But every company every years lost some customers and sign some new contract.
Good luck to them. Sticking to their guns and not accepting the TUPE too the green menace.
Stobbies have said they will honour they’re current contract. I’m sure they only have to do that for 3 months then it can be changed.
Once drivers are transferred over they will be sacked then offered job back on stobbart rates same happened at Doncaster
chicane:
Juddian I’m surprised at you, they are simply following long established socialist practice of sharing their thirst and hunger with someone else’s beer and sandwich
Long established capitalist practice of ethics being a marketing ploy, which never applies to employment practices. Look at charities that participate in workfare schemes!
Best of luck to them, even if they ultimately fail they will have succeeded in further highlighting how undesirable working for Stobarts is.
I think this eroding of terms and conditions is great , before long us low paid drivers won’t have to suffer the taunts of you work for peanuts , buttons as everyone will be working for peanuts , buttons 
the great green undercutting machine has been at work like this for years, I think its time people did stand up to them.
war1974:
the great green undercutting machine has been at work like this for years, I think its time people did stand up to them.
Stand up to them? Why don’t you go into your local co-op and see if their customers are willing to pay more so they can keep a few unionised driver jobs going. .
Good luck with that.
You want to stand up to Aldi/Lidl too as they come into this country offering more efficient discount stores that are undermining the monopoly created by the big 4 overpriced British ones?
All these supermarket jobs are going, companies like Stobart/DHL/Wincanton/Linde can do it so more efficiently.
Shape up or ship out.
I’m all for strike action on yourself lads, money is better in your pocket than buying tinkler and Stobart another helicopter on the backs of their low paid workers.
wheelnutt:
war1974:
the great green undercutting machine has been at work like this for years, I think its time people did stand up to them.Stand up to them? Why don’t you go into your local co-op and see if their customers are willing to pay more so they can keep a few unionised driver jobs going. .
Good luck with that.
You want to stand up to Aldi/Lidl too as they come into this country offering more efficient discount stores that are undermining the monopoly created by the big 4 overpriced British ones?
All these supermarket jobs are going, companies like Stobart/DHL/Wincanton/Linde can do it so more efficiently.
Shape up or ship out.
No they are not going, When you employ a contractor they have to take a profit improving the efficiency of an operation by 20% which would be a good effort would still not provide the profit margin required.
Tesco are about as savvy as they come how many depots out of the total are contracted out? not many and certainly none of the fresh depots are, and there is a reason for this.
wheelnutt:
war1974:
the great green undercutting machine has been at work like this for years, I think its time people did stand up to them.All these supermarket jobs are going, companies like Stobart/DHL/Wincanton/Linde can do it so more efficiently.
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Can’t agree with more efficient, cheaper by cutting the previously negotiated and earned contracts of the directly employed drivers, though to be fair sometimes the existing staff can bring about their own demise by basically taking the ■■■■ out of the job, by A not giving a proper days work for their days pay, and B by taking the ■■■■ out of the sick pay scheme, and some other things i’m sure we can all think of.
But where do you draw the line with this, it suits those in charge of continent country and company to have a constant supply of cheap labour, but when its standing room only in the country and our own children can’t afford to get their own home unless they have 4 kids by different fathers (ok thats an exaggeration) or prepared to live several to a house like the foreigners here do…in order to nett as much money as possible to bugger off home with where at until the recent migrant invasion takes effect their own countries were cheap to buy homes in.
Its the Coop crew now, last time it was Tescos, next time it’ll be some other poor buggers, its just another ratchet clicked ever tighter on the race to the bottom.
Pity its a supposedly ethical company trying to destroy, by the back door, their drivers decent present contracts, yes they’ll be tuped over so the coop spokesperson can say with hand on heart all is fair, but we all know what the truth is.
As for efficiency, that all too often nothing at all to do with the drivers and main staff, the blame can often be laid directly at the door of layers of ■■■■ poor management who whilst enjoying the perks of their positions don’t take the responsibility correctly of what goes with that position.
Who’s on call or can be arsed when it all goes ■■■■ up at 2am weekdays or at 4pm on a Saturday evening, seen it too before, massive salaries company cars expense accounts and they vanish on a Friday afternoon and they might as well have flown to the moon cos they are unobtainable.
If a logistics operator came in and genuinly replaced any second rate management who can’t run it efficiently, maybe put the existing drivers into better vehicles more suitable for the job in hand (which Stobbies in this case are good at), but left the drivers on their same terms and conditions permanently then i would have no argument.
From the above link:
They are prepared to wash their hands of both these two tainted organisations, unless other options can be agreed -
Don’t let the door hit you in the @Rse on the way out.