Containers

Thought I’d share some memories of my time on containers from the 80’s and 90’s and stuff we used to load/unload at various places.Maybe some of you have been to these places too.

The job’s that every driver dreaded were the ones where you turned up and some bloke would say,‘Right’o drive,get in the back’!
That would guarantee an argument with the office when you phoned up to say that the customer refused to tip or load you,because you wouldn’t get in and handball 20 tons of potatoes or whatever.
The fact that you’d been up since 3 or 4am to get their bloody container there on time cut no ice with the boss,the customer or the spotty kid in the shipping office.
As far as I know,just about the only driver’s in Felixstowe who didn’t have this problem were P&O Coastal Roadways,simply because they had a strong union presence.

The same sort of thing always happened when you turned up somewhere with an open top box too,this time it’s ‘Right’o drive,take the top off’!
No ladder,no gantry,nothing.They expected you to shimmy up the side of the box and then tightrope walk around the top to unlace the sealing cord and roll the cover off.The second word of reply was generally “Off”!
There was a regular place we used to go to in the West Midlands to load copper,they had a gantry that you had to reverse next to and it was easy to walk around and strip the tilt off.

Of course nowadays I suppose this sort of thing doesn’t occur,what with Health & safety and risk assessment.

One time I took a 20’ box full of tinned salmon up to the North West with two deliveries.At the first address they said I had to get in the back and stack it onto pallets,I refused and told them that I hadn’t got out of my bed at 2am that morning,driven to Liverpool only to be told that I’d have to unload it.I explained that I’d done my bit in getting it there and it was down to them to unload it.So they did.
Whilst I went for a cuppa and a bit of breakfast they unloaded there stuff,all the way down one side of the box!
So the boxes for the second address were all stacked up against the other side! Not for long though,by the time I got to the second address a few miles away all the boxes were all over the place.

There were good jobs and bad jobs.One of the good jobs was loading ■■■■ out of Southampton.We had to be in Southampton the night before,so this was generally a good night out as there were usually four or five of us loading together.Next morning we’d load and then wait for the security ■■■■■■ to arrive,who would follow us all the way back to Felixstowe.We weren’t allowed to stop officially,but would usually pull into the OK cafe on the A12 for a cuppa on the way back,with the ■■■■■■ driver staying in his car watching the trucks.

We also used to take raw tobacco to Bristol next to Canon’s Marsh lorry park,so that was another good night out,first into ‘The Juniper Berry’ then into the ‘Mecca’.Some good times were had there. :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

I loaded a 40’ full of sherry from Harvey’s in Bristol one day but only had time to get back to Brentwood due to being held up on the way because of an accident.But I parked it up in the first lay-by on the A12 and went home on a dodgy.When I got home I had a bad feeling about leaving a load of sherry in a lay-by,so I got my missus to drive me back down to Brentwood and we both slept in the truck for the night.
Driver’s used to park up and leave trucks and trailers all over the place in those days,and it was a very rare occasion if it got broken into,not like nowadays.

One of the most secure places we used to load at was The Royal Mint in Llantrisant,Wales.There you had to leave all your loose change in a locker before they would let you in.Poor old Danny Palmer forgot it after he’d loaded and pulled out.It’s probably still there.
There was another place where we used to load blank banknotes for the far east,it was somewhere in southern England,but I can’t remember exactly where.

Another regular job was taking peanuts to Tickhill,near Doncaster.Again,there was usually half a dozen of us going up early in the morning and we’d arrive together,wait until we were all tipped and then go for breakfast at Jane’s,just down the road,before heading back to Felixstowe empty.

Some of the worst jobs were the groupage runs on a Friday.This was usually loading a 40’ box at several places and then ending up somewhere where they’d take the whole lot out and repack it,and you’d end up waiting around till 7 or 8pm for a pallet that’s coming in from the other side of London!

There were strange jobs too.We used to load at the Cherry Valley factory in Lincolnshire,frozen duck’s feet of all things! They were shipped to the far east,where they are regarded as a delicacy.

I went to somwhere in Hampshire with a 40’ loaded with grass seed in hessian sacks.When I backed into the warehouse they opened the doors and then shut them again.‘You have to take it back driver,it has to be fumigated’.It was full of mice,that over the weeks since it had been loaded and shipped,had multiplied tenfold.So I took it back.

A regular job that Goodways had was for Anglo-Italian Foods,who had a huge warehouse at Nacton near Ipswich.They used to import huge numbers of containers full of tinned tomatoes.It was normally just a case of doing a changeover,taking a full box up from Felixstowe and returning with an empty and we’d do that five or six times a day.Mind you,we were never short of tinned tomatoes at home!

Another good job was Holyhead,which usually meant leaving early Friday from Felixstowe with a 9’6" box,up the A5 to Holyhead,lift the box off and wait for the boat from Dublin to arrive around midnight.After lifting the box off we’d give the blokes there the box number we’d be taking back and our reg.number,so when it came off the ship they’d wake us up and get it lifted on.Saturday morning would see us heading back to Felixstowe and straight to the quay.
This was before the Conwy bypass was built,that’s why we had to go up the A5,there was a low bridge at Conwy that you couldn’t get under with a 9’6" box.
Though some did try.
George Carling,a Grays driver,was running from Holyhead to Manchester with an empty 9’6" box one day and went flying under the bridge.There was a loud bang and the empty box was ripped off of the twistlocks and landed on the road.Very embarrasing :blush: :blush: :blush:

It was also decidedly tight going from Chester to Holyhead through those arches at Conwy.The first time I went up there was on a Sunday night and I ignored the warning signs that tell you to take an alternative route.As I approached the arches I thought,oh dear!,or words to that effect,I’m never going to get through there! There were two coppers walking up the street and I thought,‘Here we go,I’m going to get nicked here’,but they said “Just pull your mirrors in driver and take it slowly,all the Irish lads come this way”.So I did.

Some of the nicest jobs were the household removals where you could be in some of the nicest parts of the country at some exclusive house,watching all their furniture being carried out and loaded into a container.
I remember loading once in Berkeley Square,London,that was nice.Even saw Lorraine Chase getting into her Jaguar XJS while I was waiting.Probably off to Luton Airport :confused: :unamused:
In the same vein,there was an awful lot of antiques we used to load all over the place and shipped to the USA. I went to one place just off the M11 to load antiques,well,when I say antiques,it was a load of old rubbish.But,as the guy who owned the place said,“The yanks love all this old stuff,they haven’t got a clue that it’s no good”.Fair enough.

One of the jobs we all hated was timber.Timber loaded into a normal 40’ box takes some getting out.Getting it in is no problem,they just push it in.
But,invariably,almost everywhere you went to unload it,they wanted you to shunt it out of the back.
That’s right,‘shunt it’.
This meant you had to take out everything in the cab that wasn’t tied down and secured,or it would be all over the place.Then you engaged reverse,and went backwards as fast as you could.And hit the brakes.This could take several shunts before it was out far enough for them to get a forklift or side-loader under it to do the rest.Again,something which probably doesn’t happen too much nowadays.
There was a furniture place in Ware,Herts that we used to go to quite a bit with timber.I went there one foggy morning to unload and missed the turning,so had to go for miles before I could turn around.The only place I could find was a farm gateway,so I backed into the gateway and out again.Unbeknown to me,there was a ruddy great tree stump lurking under the grass and as I pulled out it caught the front axle of the tandem axle trailer I had on.
Quite a bit actually.
It had ripped the front axle from it’s mountings and the wheels were pointing in the wrong direction,or at least not straight ahead anyway.
I managed to unload and limp all the way back to Felixstowe with the wheels trying to turn left all the way.That took some explaining.

More memories soon,I’m tired and off to bed now…zzzzzzzzzzzz

A brilliant read Keith :smiley: , thanks for taking the time to put it all down in writing. Every driver must a have a few stories like that and I just love reading about them :smiley: .

i must admit i have not done much container work ,but the few i did do put me off for life.such as a 40’ box full of argos catalouges for a wherehouse in bradford,and not one pallet to be seen.7 hours later i was tipped.the good ones were boxes of parts for KOMATSU in birtley.back on the ramp and off to sleep! the best one for a laugh was a 40’ box of washing powder for aldi in middelton on those stupid metal chep pallets.it was stacked to the roof of the box and even with the air dumped out of the trailer it was still 10" above the ramp! i was so funny watching those kids trying to get a eletric pump truck under those pallets with the forks at 45 degrees in the air!!! :laughing: .oh do they still have that dumb system at seaforth terminal where you have to remember who went through the barrier in front of you so you know when to move over to get your box on ,god i felt such a prat the first time i went there :blush: :blush: :blush: god i am coming over all faint :laughing: .bob.

Speaking of long tips,I took a 40’ down to Stradford L.I.F.T. just before one Christmas loaded with several thousand small cartons containing Xmas gift tags.By the end of the first day they’d managed to unload just over half of them.
As you weren’t allowed to sleep in Stratford L.I.F.T. I left the trailer on the bay and pulled the pin,then bobtailed up to Brentwood and went home on a dodgy.
I got back there just after lunch the following day and got my head down until they finally got it all off at 5pm.

Another time I went up to the NEC at Birmingham with a 40’ open top to load some machinery which had been on display at some exhibition or other and was to be shipped to Canada.
I sat there all day the first day because the stand was right at the back of the hall and they had to load all the machinery from the other stands before they could dismantle the stand I had to load from.
The second day I managed to get nearly half of it on before the crane broke down.
I finally left there just after lunch on the third day.

Luckily I was being paid by the hour.

Great read KW
I used to work at Cherry Valley and there wasn`t alot they throw away from a duck!
Think all the feet and becks :open_mouth: went to the far east

Ah container’s dont you just luv em, been on container work since i came of the continent
in 2000 working for Dave Bennet in Sheerness at the mo, must admit it ain’t to bad but i hate 43 berth in
Tilbury and Felixstowe apart from that i am happy in my work get plenty of kip which suit’s my old body
and the money aint bad normally only work five day’s and we DONT get in the back period so yeah will do me
till me time’s up. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Like Bob I went on the boxes when I finished going over the water, mine was a totally different job to yours though KW, I’ve subbed for Russel Davies/Securicor/DHL & a few smaller firms like Brains & Les Sampson & never got anywhere near the inside of a box, never helped with an open top either, did a lot of reading & sleeping though :open_mouth: :laughing:

KW:
Of course nowadays I suppose this sort of thing doesn’t occur,what with Health & safety and risk assessment.
There was another place where we used to load blank banknotes for the far east,it was somewhere in southern England,but I can’t remember exactly where.

Portals (De La Rue) at Overton Mill?

I have not done much container work, however, one incident back in 1988 highlights one pearl of wisdom an old driver imparted on me some years earlier. “If you aint loaded it yourself always asume a lazy, idle idiot has, either check it or be careful”.
In 1988 I was driving for an operator just outside Blackpool, who thought that after 12 months in haulage he knew everything and if there was a quick buck to be made, despite advice to the contrary would take on anything, then expect us drivers to carry out the impossible in our 11 year old ERFs, or as he thought they were magic carpets.
Anyway one of the little ‘earners’ he took on was to transport 2x 20’ boxes on PSKs from Liverpool and Manchester to Coatbridge near Glasow. The customer thought they were paying a reasonable rate for transporting the empty boxes, however, my boss was of the opinion that it was wrong to transport fresh air and they should be loaded. This posed no end of fallouts with the fork truck or straddle crane drivers as they were told to load them door to door.
One of the fabulous loads hich were sourced to for the double-earn, was fresh produce from around the Southport area. We normally picked up the boxes, then went around the farms loading produce. On this particular day I had only one pick up to make, about 12 tons, when my truck developed a fault. The trailer was dropped at the farm, with instructions to spread out the load evenly, whilst I went to have the truck repaired.
Upon returning to the farm, the alarm bells should have been ringing, as the farmhand said, “there not as big as they look”. Anyway I was rushing, behind schedule with two hundred and odd miles to go. I hooked up and was off, making a detour to the yard, which was a farm in the midddle of nowhere, accessed by a streep hill with a single tracked bridge at the bottom. The truck was riding okay with no concerns, when as I decended the hill, a car appeared at the other end of the bridge, no problem, dry day, only 12 tons, but as soon as I touched the foot brake, as the ERF had no exhauster, the drive wheels locked solid. This became one of those moments when you wonder how you are going to pry the seat base from between your but-cheeks. I let off the brakes, the car cleared the bridge just in time as I shot over it doing about 30.
On arrival at the yard, I soon discovered why. The baffoon had only loaded the back box, giving a counter balance effect over the trailer bogie. Lesson well learned!!!

240 Gardner:

KW:
Of course nowadays I suppose this sort of thing doesn’t occur,what with Health & safety and risk assessment.
There was another place where we used to load blank banknotes for the far east,it was somewhere in southern England,but I can’t remember exactly where.

Portals (De La Rue) at Overton Mill?

We still do that job we tip about 3 a week in there not a bad tip really like fort knox
getting in though. for your info drive Overton is Basingstoke you can get to it from the A303 or from the A339
heading toward’s Newbury. :wink: :wink: :wink:

grahamA:
Great read KW
I used to work at Cherry Valley and there wasn`t alot they throw away from a duck!
Think all the feet and becks :open_mouth: went to the far east

a mate of mine used to work for L&M food group in essex somewhere, they shipped hundreds of loads of ducks’ feet, ■■■■■’ combs, pigs’ uteruses and all manner of what we consider by-products to the far east - always reminds me of Monty Pythons with their ocelot spleens, larks tongues etc :laughing: the original post was a great read keith, thanks

240 Gardner:

KW:
Of course nowadays I suppose this sort of thing doesn’t occur,what with Health & safety and risk assessment.
There was another place where we used to load blank banknotes for the far east,it was somewhere in southern England,but I can’t remember exactly where.

Portals (De La Rue) at Overton Mill?

Overton Mill,that was it.Cheers.

mothreadre stories please kw this will be a great thread if everyone as well as yourself adds to it once again agreat read :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

Regular lod these days is chicken paws (Feet to us) and just recently salmon heads god knows what they do with them in china.

aidey:
Regular lod these days is chicken paws (Feet to us) and just recently salmon heads god knows what they do with them in china.

I think it is number 87 :stuck_out_tongue:

Now that’s what i call a menu :confused: :confused: :confused:

KW:

240 Gardner:

KW:
Of course nowadays I suppose this sort of thing doesn’t occur,what with Health & safety and risk assessment.
There was another place where we used to load blank banknotes for the far east,it was somewhere in southern England,but I can’t remember exactly where.

Portals (De La Rue) at Overton Mill?

Overton Mill,that was it.Cheers.

Is that near Whitchurch Hants? they print foreign money there, I’ve tipped a box full of cotton or similar there, I saw inside the warehouse once & the racking is full of pallets of money, rather depressing when I left empty with about a fiver in my pocket :cry:

newmercman:

KW:

240 Gardner:

KW:
There was another place where we used to load blank banknotes for the far east,it was somewhere in southern England,but I can’t remember exactly where.

Portals (De La Rue) at Overton Mill?

Overton Mill,that was it.Cheers.

Is that near Whitchurch Hants? they print foreign money there, I’ve tipped a box full of cotton or similar there, I saw inside the warehouse once & the racking is full of pallets of money, rather depressing when I left empty with about a fiver in my pocket :cry:

The very place :wink:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Nice one Wheel nut
Now i know.

thought you all might like this one couple of month’s ago i had to pick up two empty 20 foot
boxe’s and load them in Basildon, so i goe’s to Seabourne’s in Thurrock pick’s up the two mt’s
and shoot’s up to the job when i got there one of our’s was being done and another one in front of me so i
has a kip till they knock me up and put’s the motor where they want me, now the boxe’s are door’s front and back
so you drop the trailor to load so i drop’s the leg’s jump’s up remove’s the airline’s and crack’s open the front box while im on the back of the cab, well i could not adam and eve it as the front box was full up with office furniture ,
“WHAT THE ZB” im thinking, meanwhile the guy’s at the place had opened up the back one and yeah you got it
full up as well so all are scratching their head’s the guy’s say to me driver you should have unloaded these first
i declared my innocence that i knew zb about the stuff and had picked the boxe’s up from a company that normally
only deal’s with empty boxe’s, now i know a lot of you are going to say “why did you not check them on loading them”?
well normally i would if only to ensure the door’s open ok if nothing else but these were brand new boxe’s so i did not
bother and also it was peeing down with rain, anyway after 2 zillion phone calls i am told to take them back to Thurrock
when i get’s there nobody believe’s my story that this stuff was in the boxe’s when i got them coz they know zb about this gear either, any way after about another 2 zillion phone call’s they are taken off and i disappear into the sunset.
now the funny thing is i went bact to thurrock a couple of week’s later and and enquired as to a finish to this escapade
and was told that the boxe’s were still sitting at the back of the yard coz no one had a clue who it belonged to.
you could not make it up could yah■■? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: