I often park on a little ind est in Devon, (mainly because there is a good pub a few yards away who do good evening meals. )
I was on there to day delivering, and at the entrance to the est they are knocking down one of the units and building 4 houses on there.
First thought was ‘There goes the overnight parking’ as soon as these houses are lived in.
Firstly why tf would they build houses 5 yards off the first factory on an ind est, (let alone on an ind est full stop). , and who in their right minds would want to live there.
I remember an old established haulage firm in Devon in the 80s, the name escapes me, Brian somebody?..green ERFs.
The old boy lost his O licence after new builds were put up, because the residents objected to the noise…he was there first ffs, they must have noticed the existing transport yard before they moved in.
So another good parking facility will soon cease to be, when these new people see all those ‘‘nasty big juggernauts’’ parking on an industrial estate…
(Aint saying where it is while parking is still on btw, I don’t want it to be full up next time I go there…find yer own parking spots ! )
Who’d live on an industrial estate?
I do, it’s great, really quiet at weekends (when I’m normally home) and if I bring the truck back I can park it outside the house, or even better one of the business lets me park it in their yard which has 24hr security.
I did get a letter a while ago asking if I objected to a local company building a new factory on their existing site that burned down a few years ago, personally how can I object! I live on a bloody industrial estate, so surely the same goes for those who move into a house next to an established industrial site.
One of the workers at Pirelli in Burton-upon-Trent told me that they now cannot take deliveries in bulk tankers at night because a developer has recently built a new estate next door to the factory (near the part of the plant where the silos are), and the new residents have been been moaning about the noise. Pirelli must have be there a long, long, long time before those houses were built.
A similar thing happened in Dundee. A developer just about begged a pig farmer to sell some land to him for housing. The farmer said who would live here beside the pigs they smell. The houses were built and in due course the pig farm was closed because of the awful smell. I live near Strathallan airfield where parachuting goes on and people moan about it. There were no complaints during the war when it first became operational.
alamcculloch:
I live near Strathallan airfield where parachuting goes on and people moan about it. There were no complaints during the war when it first became operational.
I must have missed the air war that was waged from Scotland in the 1960s - remind me of the details, would you…?
Where I run out of in A village north of Eastleigh they’ve built houses at the end of the road and building more closer down the road nearer the entrance to our road
Big laugh is all the land was a tip [emoji6][emoji6][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
robroy:
Firstly why tf would they build houses 5 yards off the first factory on an ind est, (let alone on an ind est full stop). , and who in their right minds would want to live there.
With planning permission making it difficult to build houses in isolated green fields sites, it must be easier to tack a development onto an existing estate, whatever the type? A factory one side and a field the other? Opposed to being surrounded by miles of houses in a city?
A house next to a factory will most likely be cheaper than a similar one trapped between a field of roses and a deer park. And given the shortage of housing I reckon almost anyone living in rented accommodation, or a flat would jump at one of these houses.
I don’t have an issue . rather have them build houses on old warehouse brownfields sites. instead of on Greenland .
but people that buy them should be aware theres an estate on there door step should expect trucks people and noise all day.
same as people who buy a house near a football ground then complain about the noise and parking on a Saturday.
the estate /football ground /airport was there 1st if you don’t want the issues then don’t live there.
would I live there yes but not in a newbuild id never live in a newbuild house.
theres to small no garden over priced and built on the cheap.
just wait until residents move into the estate being built next to red lion truck stop. I can see the complaints coming in eventually
I did a summer working for CPI Euromix putting the dry mortar into silos and there was a site in Edinburgh somewhere where a guy who bought and moved into a house in the first stage was constantly complaining about the noise of the building site because he worked nights.
I work pulling for a supermarket. One of our stores that was built in the 80’s has had to stop deliveries at night and mornings because of the housing estate built next door last year. Local council only allow us between 11am and 3pm, 3 or four deliveries from us plus 3 bread deliveries and a milk delivery…with 1 loading bay [emoji23]
I live in a former pit village where the pit closed 50 years back,until recently we also had Daw Mill the last Warwickshire pit within 1.5 miles of us. until it closed due to a fire.
The pits ran 24/7 tippers and trains constantly in and out,now developers want to make the Daw Mill site into an Industrial Warehouse and Container site BUT guess what the residence in the area are objecting because of the EXTRA traffic and NOISE it would create,locals didnt complain about the pits noise and dirt left on the road after leaving the pits loaded. Suspect its newbies to the area helped by an ex Labour MP which I wont name
likely the country is on the tipping point of allowing conversion of empty high street shops into homes . its only a matter of time till the nod is given then the race will be on to convert .
I seem to remember lots of houses on industrial estates in Holland and Belgium, I used to deliver to a few of them, one of the blokes said he liked living there because he had no neighbours and he could make as much noise as he wanted.
Franglais:
With planning permission making it difficult to build houses in isolated green fields sites, it must be easier to tack a development onto an existing estate, whatever the type? A factory one side and a field the other? Opposed to being surrounded by miles of houses in a city?
A house next to a factory will most likely be cheaper than a similar one trapped between a field of roses and a deer park. And given the shortage of housing I reckon almost anyone living in rented accommodation, or a flat would jump at one of these houses.
Planning permission has been made easier to build on Green belt, for instance, planning permission has been granted to build over 12000 homes on land to the north of Harlow, Essex. The homes are part of an expansion of Harlow into land in Hertfordshire that is green belt. This land was never included as part of the 1940’s-1950’s New town development scheme as the designer of the town Sir Frederick Gibberd wanted to mantain those fields as a backdrop to the town.
The town was planned from the outset and was designed to respect the existing landscape. A number of landscape wedges - which later became known as Green Wedges - were designed to cut through the town and separate the neighbourhoods of the town. The development incorporated the market town of Harlow, now a neighbourhood known as Old Harlow, and the villages of Great Parndon, Latton, Tye Green, Potter Street, Churchgate Street, Little Parndon, and Netteswell. Each of the town’s neighbourhoods is self-supporting with its own shopping precincts, community facilities and pubs. But Gibberd himself baulked at including land to the north of the River Stort saying it was a natural green belt to separate the quaint villages of Gilston, Eastwick and Hunsdon from the modern post war new town.
But this has been ignored by the develpment company that has purchased all of the land from around these villages over the last 35 years and now the green belt will be used for more housing in an area where there is little manufacturing or commerce any more. It will just become another part of the London commuter belt.
As for houses on industrial estates, the same town council has recently stopped the sale of redundant office blocks that are being purchased in the town. These are being converted to cheap housing using cheap materials by a few London based firms out for a quick turnover. Those so far converted have been found to have high levels of damp and poor fire safety, there is surprisingly no planning permission required to convert old offices into homes and remains a potential hazard for those that occupy them…mostly people from North and east London. I doubt that these people care where they are living as long as it is out of the stinking metropolis that is supposedly our Capital.
I was on the persimmon site just off the M58 at Maghull last week and got talking to the site agent. He was saying one of their customers is demanding a full refund for the house he bought. Initially his gripe was the mud and dust because he’s close to the compound. Because persimmon told him NO he has now taken to getting officials like building surveyors in to inspect the house and say it’s not built properly and is sub standard.
To his first complaint I just rolled my eyes, hear it all the time about people buying new builds then moaning about the noise etc.
However, his second moaning round comes with very good reason, [emoji23]
Anybody that delivers to and sees persimmon houses being built these days will back me up I’m sure. For example…[emoji57]
nomiS36:
I was on the persimmon site just off the M58 at Maghull last week and got talking to the site agent. He was saying one of their customers is demanding a full refund for the house he bought. Initially his gripe was the mud and dust because he’s close to the compound. Because persimmon told him NO he has now taken to getting officials like building surveyors in to inspect the house and say it’s not built properly and is sub standard.
To his first complaint I just rolled my eyes, hear it all the time about people buying new builds then moaning about the noise etc.
However, his second moaning round comes with very good reason, [emoji23]
Anybody that delivers to and sees persimmon houses being built these days will back me up I’m sure. For example…[emoji57]
I see what you are getting at, and I know jack â– â– â– â– about house building techniques, but afaik they have been building houses like that, using that initial method since the 70s.
Ok it probably does not result in a house being as well built as in previous eras, but they are still standing 40 + years later and counting, and make no mistake if they were not safe they would not be allowed to be built in that way.
The guy you mention just sounds like a knob.
thats the trouble ,the builders are now well used to buyers wanting their money back and have well practiced ways of dodging doing that . luckily for me iv not ever bought a duff house but imagine itd hurt deeply , i think in the past id have gon down the route of having the builder done away with, although id not get any money id take solice seeing his empty house . but not angry with the lads who built it,even if theyd done shoddy work ,just whoever it was that signed the letter refusing me a refund would carry the can . Actually iv just remembered a builder Did once diddle me,only 300 notes though ,few months later i had a revenge cost a house sale or 2 .
that reminds me,years ago i only just held back from welding a horsehoe to a hammer head someone connected with horses got at me and i planned on revenge if they didnt stop bothering me,luckily they let go,so i never did follow thru
in recent years i never take revenge,i laugh instead im over that and feel lot better in letting go,its akin to road rage is revenge it can get wild out of hand
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, and who in their right minds would want to live there. 
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