This contract was issued too me in February 2009
This sentence is what I’m after your thoughts on
If employed on a five shift week basis , currently your guaranteed hours will be 50 hours within the five working days ,with a minimum of 8 hrs guaranteed per day ,excluding half - hour meal break deducted for each shift worked in excess of 4 hrs .
Now my reading of that is I’m guaranteed 8 hrs per day / 50 hrs per week 
, or is there interpretation of it correct that it doesn’t guarantee me 8 hrs per day , just 50 hrs per week
thanks Connor,
8 hours gar or 50 hours gar? 
PASS! 
You should get 8 per day, even if you only did 4 but you get paid 7.5 after break, and guaranteed 50 even if you only did 42 so paid 47.5 (edited), less your half hour deduction of shifts over 4, they are wrong if they say your not guaranteed 8 if your on a 5 shift system.
You could always ring ACAS and ask for their interpretation of it.
weeto:
You should get 8 per day, even if you only did 4 but you get paid 7.5 after break, and guaranteed 50 even if you only did 42 so paid 39.5, less your half hour deduction of shifts over 4, they are wrong if they say your not guaranteed 8 if your on a 5 shift system.
You could always ring ACAS and ask for their interpretation of it.
If you want Conor as your new life coach doze, and seeing as you are specifically adressing him on here, why not just pm him ffs.
weeto:
You should get 8 per day, even if you only did 4 but you get paid 7.5 after break, and guaranteed 50 even if you only did 42 so paid 39.5, less your half hour deduction of shifts over 4, they are wrong if they say your not guaranteed 8 if your on a 5 shift system.
You could always ring ACAS and ask for their interpretation of it.
Thanks weeto , that’s how I see it , how you can say guaranteed 8 hrs doesn’t mean guaranteed 8 hrs I don’t know , yet guaranteed 50 hrs means guaranteed 50 hrs 
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There trying To move the goal posts basically to suit themselves , I’m going to get a solicitor to take a look at it ,thanks again
robroy:
weeto:
You should get 8 per day, even if you only did 4 but you get paid 7.5 after break, and guaranteed 50 even if you only did 42 so paid 39.5, less your half hour deduction of shifts over 4, they are wrong if they say your not guaranteed 8 if your on a 5 shift system.
You could always ring ACAS and ask for their interpretation of it.If you want Conor as your new life coach doze, and seeing as you are specifically adressing him on here, why not just pm him ffs.
I’m on moderation , were unable to pm anybody rob 
or I would pm him ,
Carl Usher:
8 hours gar or 50 hours gar?
Yes those were the days Carl ( cider fueled blur 
) , I’ve sobered up these days ( not that you’d notice at times ) , anyway back to stobarts and we will pay you what we want ( never mind what the drivers contract States ).
Are you bored dozy? Waiting to take a wide load into London…?
Weeto is spot on.
The contract was issued in February 2009 ffs !!!
the nodding donkey:
Are you bored dozy? Waiting to take a wide load into London…?
I often take wide loads into London , but I fail to see what revelence that has to do with a question about the wording of a employee contract
bald bloke:
The contract was issued in February 2009 ffs !!!
I’m not sure what your saying bald bloke , it was the one given to me when they took over what was left of innovate , they agree it’s my contract , t&c,s , it’s just there trying to interpit to suit themselves ( save money )
dozy:
weeto:
You should get 8 per day, even if you only did 4 but you get paid 7.5 after break, and guaranteed 50 even if you only did 42 so paid 39.5, less your half hour deduction of shifts over 4, they are wrong if they say your not guaranteed 8 if your on a 5 shift system.
You could always ring ACAS and ask for their interpretation of it.Thanks weeto , that’s how I see it , how you can say guaranteed 8 hrs doesn’t mean guaranteed 8 hrs I don’t know , yet guaranteed 50 hrs means guaranteed 50 hrs
There trying To move the goal posts basically to suit themselves , I’m going to get a solicitor to take a look at it ,thanks again
ACAS will give you free advice, and also back you up by contacting your employer if you wanted them to, you wouldn’t really need to pay a solicitor to get the right result.
Do they pay you 50 hours if you do less? and have you been paid the 8 hours in the past when youv’e done less? having pay records that show they have would go against their claim.
dozy:
bald bloke:
The contract was issued in February 2009 ffs !!!I’m not sure what your saying bald bloke , it was the one given to me when they took over what was left of innovate , they agree it’s my contract , t&c,s , it’s just there trying to interpit to suit themselves ( save money )
If that’s the case, you was more than likely TUPE’d over to them, which means they cannot change your terms and conditions, well they can, but they can only improve them and you have to agree to those changes by signing a new contract.
Why the hell ask on here something like that needs either union rep or solicitor
dozy:
This contract was issued too me in February 2009
This sentence is what I’m after your thoughts on
If employed on a five shift week basis , currently your guaranteed hours will be 50 hours within the five working days ,with a minimum of 8 hrs guaranteed per day ,excluding half - hour meal break deducted for each shift worked in excess of 4 hrs .
Now my reading of that is I’m guaranteed 8 hrs per day / 50 hrs per week
thanks Connor,
was this contract written by “Immigrant’s” lawyer brother ?
Wrote 7 years ago with the wording “currently your guaranteed” “your”? did they mean “you’re”? terrible grammar for a contract but does it imply hours can be expected to change?
“guaranteed hours will be 50 hours within the five working days ,with a minimum of 8 hrs guaranteed per day ,excluding half”
apart from the weird “excluding half” tagged onto the end I would have thought that this means you will get a minimum of 50 hours Mon to Fri and if you were to do 4 x 12 hour shifts, they can’t get you to come in on the fifth day for only 2 hours to make it up to 50, they would either have to pay you for 50, or get you to come in for 8 and pay you 56.
“excluding half - hour meal break deducted for each shift worked in excess of 4 hrs” Is the “excluding half” supposed to apply in this part of the sentence ? This is so badly written it could mean anything.
I would have thought how you have been paid / employed to date will form more of a legally binding contract than that badly written mumbo jumbo. You need to take legal advice.
dozy:
bald bloke:
The contract was issued in February 2009 ffs !!!I’m not sure what your saying bald bloke , it was the one given to me when they took over what was left of innovate , they agree it’s my contract , t&c,s , it’s just there trying to interpit to suit themselves ( save money )
You said it was issued to you in Feb 2009 and only now are you asking questions that’s what I couldn’t get my head round.
bald bloke:
dozy:
bald bloke:
The contract was issued in February 2009 ffs !!!I’m not sure what your saying bald bloke , it was the one given to me when they took over what was left of innovate , they agree it’s my contract , t&c,s , it’s just there trying to interpit to suit themselves ( save money )
You said it was issued to you in Feb 2009 and only now are you asking questions that’s what I couldn’t get my head round.
That’s the problem when people ask questions through badly worded posts, and why the use of spelling and grammar is important.
And giving ALL the details. It’s slowly becoming clear that this is about a dispute involving a contract from a previous employer.
dozy:
robroy:
If you want Conor as your new life coach doze, and seeing as you are specifically adressing him on here, why not just pm him ffs.I’m on moderation , were unable to pm anybody rob
Ok doze, my apologies, I thought you were off it.
Wtf did you do exactly, you have been on pre mod for ages