osark:
For those that still dont know. Covid-19 already has an approved treatment in the UK. Dont wait until you have breathing difficulty in order to seek medical treatment. The earlier the treatment, the faster the recovery. Other countries have also developed their own treatment protocols with multiple drugs, but of course the news of a successful treatment on mass media would imply unnecessary vaccinations (which are still nothing more than a trial for studies regarding safety and effectiveness)
Monkey241:
Lots of rhetorical flourish but short on substance.
Fair comment, but you have just perfectly described the style of discussion practiced in parliamentary meetings all (or most) of the time, questions with no real substance that are aimed for effect,.and political point scoring, arse covering, verbal tennis using clever, sometimes passive aggressive language…that is how they roll.
However in this case although he did start with an accusation (of which I personally believe to be true) he did conclude with a direct question (of substance) that obviously flustered Javid, who obviously felt uneasy and awkward not to mention flustered, which would lead many to believe that he had hit on the actual truth.
Have I wasted my time trying to clarify my point?
Ie…Are you going to go down the Franglais path of instantly rubbishing ABSOLUTELY SVERYTHING that refutes his never ending tiresome points of view and arguments with the use of words such as ''■■■■■■■■ .
Of course the Muppets won`t be following that link though…
Half the time they talk about real people, but here, with real Drs and Nurses in a real hospital
they prefer anonymous reports from…■■?
Of course the Muppets won`t be following that link though…
Half the time they talk about real people, but here, with real Drs and Nurses in a real hospital
they prefer anonymous reports from…■■?
So now all of those with different opinions to yourself, and those who do not believe everything they are drip fed (no pun intended, I have read the link) are…‘‘MUPPETS’’?
Monkey241:
Lots of rhetorical flourish but short on substance.
Fair comment, but you have just perfectly described the style of discussion practiced in parliamentary meetings all (or most) of the time, questions with no real substance that are aimed for effect,.and political point scoring, arse covering, verbal tennis using clever, sometimes passive aggressive language…that is how they roll.
However in this case although he did start with an accusation (of which I personally believe to be true) he did conclude with a direct question (of substance) that obviously flustered Javid, who obviously felt uneasy and awkward not to mention flustered, which would lead many to believe that he had hit on the actual truth.
Have I wasted my time trying to clarify my point?
Ie…Are you going to go down the Franglais path of instantly rubbishing ABSOLUTELY SVERYTHING that refutes his never ending tiresome points of view and arguments with the use of words such as ''■■■■■■■■ .
Not at all on the Franglais front
Just don’t think this barsteward is the Great White Hope of anti lockdown (strikes me as a deeply unpleasant piece of work who talks about our freedom - but is more concerned with his freedom to do as he wants)
Monkey241:
Lots of rhetorical flourish but short on substance.
Fair comment, but you have just perfectly described the style of discussion practiced in parliamentary meetings all (or most) of the time, questions with no real substance that are aimed for effect,.and political point scoring, arse covering, verbal tennis using clever, sometimes passive aggressive language…that is how they roll.
However in this case although he did start with an accusation (of which I personally believe to be true) he did conclude with a direct question (of substance) that obviously flustered Javid, who obviously felt uneasy and awkward not to mention flustered, which would lead many to believe that he had hit on the actual truth.
Have I wasted my time trying to clarify my point?
Ie…Are you going to go down the Franglais path of instantly rubbishing ABSOLUTELY SVERYTHING that refutes his never ending tiresome points of view and arguments with the use of words such as ''■■■■■■■■ .
Ignore my point of view, please.
But I posted a link to
THE NHS website that clearly states these vaccines are APPROVED
Where is the lack of substance RobRoy??
WTF are you talking about?
Monkey241:
Lots of rhetorical flourish but short on substance.
Fair comment, but you have just perfectly described the style of discussion practiced in parliamentary meetings all (or most) of the time, questions with no real substance that are aimed for effect,.and political point scoring, arse covering, verbal tennis using clever, sometimes passive aggressive language…that is how they roll.
However in this case although he did start with an accusation (of which I personally believe to be true) he did conclude with a direct question (of substance) that obviously flustered Javid, who obviously felt uneasy and awkward not to mention flustered, which would lead many to believe that he had hit on the actual truth.
Have I wasted my time trying to clarify my point?
Ie…Are you going to go down the Franglais path of instantly rubbishing ABSOLUTELY SVERYTHING that refutes his never ending tiresome points of view and arguments with the use of words such as ''■■■■■■■■ .
Ignore my point of view, please.
But I posted a link to
THE NHS website that clearly states these vaccines are APPROVED
Where is the lack of substance RobRoy??
WTF are you talking about?
Re read it. Don’t think he attacked YOU for lack of substance.
Monkey241:
Lots of rhetorical flourish but short on substance.
Fair comment, but you have just perfectly described the style of discussion practiced in parliamentary meetings all (or most) of the time, questions with no real substance that are aimed for effect,.and political point scoring, arse covering, verbal tennis using clever, sometimes passive aggressive language…that is how they roll.
However in this case although he did start with an accusation (of which I personally believe to be true) he did conclude with a direct question (of substance) that obviously flustered Javid, who obviously felt uneasy and awkward not to mention flustered, which would lead many to believe that he had hit on the actual truth.
Have I wasted my time trying to clarify my point?
Ie…Are you going to go down the Franglais path of instantly rubbishing ABSOLUTELY SVERYTHING that refutes his never ending tiresome points of view and arguments with the use of words such as ''■■■■■■■■ .
Ignore my point of view, please.
But I posted a link to
THE NHS website that clearly states these vaccines are APPROVED
Where is the lack of substance RobRoy??
WTF are you talking about?
If you actually READ my post instead of jumping in with both feet…
The '‘lack of substsnce’ phrase used by me was referring to questions raised in parliament,.and a direct reference (and REPLY) to the same phrase used by Monkey in the same context…and subject.
That is '‘Wtf I was on about’ .
You are spending far too much time reading up on all thus crap Frangers, it’s affecting your judgement and getting you flustered mate.
You should take a break from it …and go back to Brexit for a while.
You seem a little triggered Franglais.
Don’t worry, you’re just going through stages. Denial, anger etc. Acceptance will come soon and you will be welcomed by your fellow man into the light.
Have a peaceful day my friend.
osark:
For those that still dont know. Covid-19 already has an approved treatment in the UK. Dont wait until you have breathing difficulty in order to seek medical treatment. The earlier the treatment, the faster the recovery. Other countries have also developed their own treatment protocols with multiple drugs, but of course the news of a successful treatment on mass media would imply unnecessary vaccinations (which are still nothing more than a trial for studies regarding safety and effectiveness)
There are some Yankee docs that have being doing it in two ways with similar results. intravenous or subcutaneous (both are injections). A drip per say is not really needed.
The Japs have a very comprehensive treatment protocol with multiple, on the market, drugs from early diagnose to post negative pcr result.
A way out has been shown to exist by multiple clinicians and research docs around the world since early 2020.
The west has bought the (mass vaccination with a beta versions) solution coupled with the vicious attack against every institution built to protect personal liberties. What stunned me is the level of slander directed at these docs and the suppression, discredit or disregard of any info concerning any other alternative to mass vaccination.
Monkey241:
Re read it. Don’t think he attacked YOU for lack of substance.
Not directly, youre correct. RR did mention my use of ■■■■■■■■. A slip by me, its true… The statement that vaccines aren`t approved, is total ■■■■■■■■, although maybe I should have used gentler language so as not to upset anyone here.
Monkey241:
Just don’t think this barsteward is the Great White Hope of anti lockdown (strikes me as a deeply unpleasant piece of work who talks about our freedom - but is more concerned with his freedom to do as he wants)
Ok, but you will have to enlighten me, I don’t know much (if anything) about this guy, as I said.
A mate sent me the link after we had been saying similar the night before.
I just thought it was a ray of sunshine that an MP, and of the same governing party, had the balls to get up and not only question the party line (to the potential detriment of his career) but publicly ridicule a senior member and say what many ordinary people were thinking, and suspected all along…ie the relavance of masks, and covid being used in an experiment in control issues.
Monkey241:
Re read it. Don’t think he attacked YOU for lack of substance.
Not directly, youre correct. RR did mention my use of ■■■■■■■■. A slip by me, its true… The statement that vaccines aren`t approved, is total ■■■■■■■■, although maybe I should have used gentler language so as not to upset anyone here.
Or aimed your anger and frustration at the right person’
Not 'upset btw, more intrigued by your level of interest and the time you spend on it…as I keep saying .
(Sorry about the edits my dodgy eyes and sausage fingers are constantly working against each other these days…hence all the typos and edits )
Monkey241:
Re read it. Don’t think he attacked YOU for lack of substance.
Not directly, youre correct. RR did mention my use of ■■■■■■■■. A slip by me, its true… The statement that vaccines aren`t approved, is total ■■■■■■■■, although maybe I should have used gentler language so as not to upset anyone here.
There seems to be a problem of semantics here. in medicine approval context, “temporarily authorised without market authorisation” is not the same as “approved”
English is not my mother tongue but even I can, just at a glance, understand the difference here.
Is Approved in the context of these experimental drugs the same as for use under emergency powers only, hence they keep reapproving those powers or the drugs become illegal for use here?
Just wondering like.
Also wondering if the pharmas are yet able to be pursued in the courts for any damages/harm caused, or do they still have immunity* funny old word immunity eh, various meanings.
Monkey241:
Re read it. Don’t think he attacked YOU for lack of substance.
Not directly, youre correct. RR did mention my use of ■■■■■■■■. A slip by me, its true… The statement that vaccines aren`t approved, is total ■■■■■■■■, although maybe I should have used gentler language so as not to upset anyone here.
There seems to be a problem of semantics here. in medicine approval context, “temporarily authorised without market authorisation” is not the same as “approved”
English is not my mother tongue but even I can, just at a glance, understand the difference here.
Monkey241:
Just don’t think this barsteward is the Great White Hope of anti lockdown (strikes me as a deeply unpleasant piece of work who talks about our freedom - but is more concerned with his freedom to do as he wants)
Ok, but you will have to enlighten me, I don’t know much (if anything) about this guy, as I said.
A mate sent me the link after we had been saying similar the night before.
I just thought it was a ray of sunshine that an MP, and of the same governing party, had the balls to get up and not only question the party line (to the potential detriment of his career) but publicly ridicule a senior member and say what many ordinary people were thinking, and suspected all along…ie the relavance of masks, and covid being used in an experiment in control issues.
What do you think he said?
He didn`t I think say anything about “an experiment in control”?
He did say (his opinion)
“…there has been a useful control experiment…”
Presumably meaning:
“A scientific control is an experiment or observation designed to minimize the effects of variables other than the independent variable (i.e. confounding variables).[1] This increases the reliability of the results, often through a comparison between control measurements and the other measurements. Scientific controls are a part of the scientific method.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_control
I took it that he was comparing the mask rules in Scotland with the mask rules in the UK.
The rules were not set up as an experiment, but he is suggesting that comparing them is a valid observation involving one “controlled” variable only.
I dont think he was suggesting that there is some experiment in control of people going on? If he is suggesting that, Ill hear out what others have to say?
I do find it hard to imagine Sturgeon and Johnson somehow setting up summat like that.
Given that he was speaking on Nov 29th, and the current infection rates seem worse in the UK than in Scotland…
(here is a link I previously put up coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details … -map/cases)
On Nov 29th he alleged that “the estimates were Mumbo Jumbo”
The current real world data suggests he was speaking… wait for it…■■■■■■■■.
Is he brave to speak against the PM?
Or setting himself up as rebel to get in with the next Tory leader?
idrive:
You seem a little triggered Franglais.
Don’t worry, you’re just going through stages. Denial, anger etc. Acceptance will come soon and you will be welcomed by your fellow man into the light.
Have a peaceful day my friend.
Can we have this thread moved to Bully’s it has about much relevance to driving as chocolate fireguards have to fire safety, has just become a ■■■■■■■ contest to see who’s scientists are more beliveable.
