Monkey241:
Re read it. Don’t think he attacked YOU for lack of substance.
Not directly, youre correct. RR did mention my use of ■■■■■■■■. A slip by me, its true… The statement that vaccines aren`t approved, is total ■■■■■■■■, although maybe I should have used gentler language so as not to upset anyone here.
There seems to be a problem of semantics here. in medicine approval context, “temporarily authorised without market authorisation” is not the same as “approved”
English is not my mother tongue but even I can, just at a glance, understand the difference here.
Some 3 days before the 1ST wave of economic destruction,(Lockdown) the govt removed SARS-CoV-2 from the HCID list , Meaning there was NO EMERGENCY and OFFICIAL DATA shown that in 2020 ALL cause mortality was NO higher than previous years , and several FOI requests to various councils across the uk show the number of burials and cremations are not remarkable in comparison to previous 5 years either
There was never a emergency, The lockdown was based on FLAWED computer modelling from FERGUSON (GATES FUNDS HIS WORK) AND NEIL FERGUSON IS ALWAYS WAY OFF THE MARK WITH HIS PREDICTIONS RECALL FOOT & MOUTH MANY HEALTHY ANIMALS KILLED FOR NOTHING ?
The VACCINES are NOT vaccines at all, they are fully synthetic and have no long term studies and they offer NO health benefits, and they are STILL IN PHASE 3 CLINICAL TRIALS UNTIL 2023 THEY ARE NOT FULLY APPROVED they have EUA only EMERGENCY USE AUTHORISATION only and the premise for that was there is no known alternative treatment, MHRA has received millions of ££££ funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation Pro footballers keeling over on the pitch after the jabs with myocarditis teenage boys suffering the same fate these were healthy prior to taking these shots and they cannot sue the manufacture as they have been given immunity by govt’s
tommy t:
Some 3 days before the 1ST wave of economic destruction,(Lockdown) the govt removed SARS-CoV-2 from the HCID list , Meaning there was NO EMERGENCY and OFFICIAL DATA shown that in 2020 ALL cause mortality was NO higher than previous years , and several FOI requests to various councils across the uk show the number of burials and cremations are not remarkable in comparison to previous 5 years either
There was never a emergency, The lockdown was based on FLAWED computer modelling from FERGUSON (GATES FUNDS HIS WORK) AND NEIL FERGUSON IS ALWAYS WAY OFF THE MARK WITH HIS PREDICTIONS RECALL FOOT & MOUTH MANY HEALTHY ANIMALS KILLED FOR NOTHING ?
The VACCINES are NOT vaccines at all, they are fully synthetic and have no long term studies and they offer NO health benefits, and they are STILL IN PHASE 3 CLINICAL TRIALS UNTIL 2023 THEY ARE NOT FULLY APPROVED they have EUA only EMERGENCY USE AUTHORISATION only and the premise for that was there is no known alternative treatment, MHRA has received millions of ££££ funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation Pro footballers keeling over on the pitch after the jabs with myocarditis teenage boys suffering the same fate these were healthy prior to taking these shots and they cannot sue the manufacture as they have been given immunity by govt’s
Legal proceedings have been initiated across the globe regarding this issue. As governments seem to be deceiving and/or coercing their populations into being subjects in a clinical trial. The Nuremberg code says “The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment. The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.”
tommy t:
Some 3 days before the 1ST wave of economic destruction,(Lockdown) the govt removed SARS-CoV-2 from the HCID list , Meaning there was NO EMERGENCY and OFFICIAL DATA shown that in 2020 ALL cause mortality was NO higher than previous years , and several FOI requests to various councils across the uk show the number of burials and cremations are not remarkable in comparison to previous 5 years either
There was never a emergency, The lockdown was based on FLAWED computer modelling from FERGUSON (GATES FUNDS HIS WORK) AND NEIL FERGUSON IS ALWAYS WAY OFF THE MARK WITH HIS PREDICTIONS RECALL FOOT & MOUTH MANY HEALTHY ANIMALS KILLED FOR NOTHING ?
The VACCINES are NOT vaccines at all, they are fully synthetic and have no long term studies and they offer NO health benefits, and they are STILL IN PHASE 3 CLINICAL TRIALS UNTIL 2023 THEY ARE NOT FULLY APPROVED they have EUA only EMERGENCY USE AUTHORISATION only and the premise for that was there is no known alternative treatment, MHRA has received millions of ££££ funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation Pro footballers keeling over on the pitch after the jabs with myocarditis teenage boys suffering the same fate these were healthy prior to taking these shots and they cannot sue the manufacture as they have been given immunity by govt’s
tommy t:
Some 3 days before the 1ST wave of economic destruction,(Lockdown) the govt removed SARS-CoV-2 from the HCID list , Meaning there was NO EMERGENCY and OFFICIAL DATA shown that in 2020 ALL cause mortality was NO higher than previous years , and several FOI requests to various councils across the uk show the number of burials and cremations are not remarkable in comparison to previous 5 years either
There was never a emergency, The lockdown was based on FLAWED computer modelling from FERGUSON (GATES FUNDS HIS WORK) AND NEIL FERGUSON IS ALWAYS WAY OFF THE MARK WITH HIS PREDICTIONS RECALL FOOT & MOUTH MANY HEALTHY ANIMALS KILLED FOR NOTHING ?
The VACCINES are NOT vaccines at all, they are fully synthetic and have no long term studies and they offer NO health benefits, and they are STILL IN PHASE 3 CLINICAL TRIALS UNTIL 2023 THEY ARE NOT FULLY APPROVED they have EUA only EMERGENCY USE AUTHORISATION only and the premise for that was there is no known alternative treatment, MHRA has received millions of ££££ funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation Pro footballers keeling over on the pitch after the jabs with myocarditis teenage boys suffering the same fate these were healthy prior to taking these shots and they cannot sue the manufacture as they have been given immunity by govt’s
tommy t:
Some 3 days before the 1ST wave of economic destruction,(Lockdown) the govt removed SARS-CoV-2 from the HCID list , Meaning there was NO EMERGENCY and OFFICIAL DATA shown that in 2020 ALL cause mortality was NO higher than previous years , and several FOI requests to various councils across the uk show the number of burials and cremations are not remarkable in comparison to previous 5 years either
There was never a emergency, The lockdown was based on FLAWED computer modelling from FERGUSON (GATES FUNDS HIS WORK) AND NEIL FERGUSON IS ALWAYS WAY OFF THE MARK WITH HIS PREDICTIONS RECALL FOOT & MOUTH MANY HEALTHY ANIMALS KILLED FOR NOTHING ?
The VACCINES are NOT vaccines at all, they are fully synthetic and have no long term studies and they offer NO health benefits, and they are STILL IN PHASE 3 CLINICAL TRIALS UNTIL 2023 THEY ARE NOT FULLY APPROVED they have EUA only EMERGENCY USE AUTHORISATION only and the premise for that was there is no known alternative treatment, MHRA has received millions of ££££ funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation Pro footballers keeling over on the pitch after the jabs with myocarditis teenage boys suffering the same fate these were healthy prior to taking these shots and they cannot sue the manufacture as they have been given immunity by govt’s
Monkey241:
Just don’t think this barsteward is the Great White Hope of anti lockdown (strikes me as a deeply unpleasant piece of work who talks about our freedom - but is more concerned with his freedom to do as he wants)
Ok, but you will have to enlighten me, I don’t know much (if anything) about this guy, as I said.
A mate sent me the link after we had been saying similar the night before.
I just thought it was a ray of sunshine that an MP, and of the same governing party, had the balls to get up and not only question the party line (to the potential detriment of his career) but publicly ridicule a senior member and say what many ordinary people were thinking, and suspected all along…ie the relavance of masks, and covid being used in an experiment in control issues.
What do you think he said?
He didn`t I think say anything about “an experiment in control”?
He did say (his opinion)
“…there has been a useful control experiment…”
Presumably meaning:
“A scientific control is an experiment or observation designed to minimize the effects of variables other than the independent variable (i.e. confounding variables).[1] This increases the reliability of the results, often through a comparison between control measurements and the other measurements. Scientific controls are a part of the scientific method.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_control
I took it that he was comparing the mask rules in Scotland with the mask rules in the UK.
The rules were not set up as an experiment, but he is suggesting that comparing them is a valid observation involving one “controlled” variable only.
I dont think he was suggesting that there is some experiment in control of people going on? If he is suggesting that, Ill hear out what others have to say?
I do find it hard to imagine Sturgeon and Johnson somehow setting up summat like that.
Given that he was speaking on Nov 29th, and the current infection rates seem worse in the UK than in Scotland…
(here is a link I previously put up coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details … -map/cases)
On Nov 29th he alleged that “the estimates were Mumbo Jumbo”
The current real world data suggests he was speaking… wait for it…■■■■■■■■.
Is he brave to speak against the PM?
Or setting himself up as rebel to get in with the next Tory leader?
As you say ''presumably meaning , so you have your interpretation I have mine, one of us is correct, (one of us is not,) who knows,…who cares,.
I personally did not have the time nor inclination to pursue an analysis to that level of scrutiny,. I was just impressed with him daring to question the ‘official line’ in parliament, as I saw it…that is all.
So let’s for arguments sake,.(and to prevent more boredom,) assume it is you who is correct,.as I would not dare to attempt to beat your level of knowledge on your favourite subject.
Thank You.
From your link (AZ)
“It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunisation of individuals aged 18 years and older for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019”
It is illegal to sell it. It has “authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunisation”
Where, anywhere, does it describe this as
“” (which are still nothing more than a trial for studies regarding safety and effectiveness)“” ?
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jakethesnake:
Just to add for anybody that’s interested it’s probably not the vaccines causing heart problems but the way they are given. IE no aspiration (in uk).
Not according to results from private funded PM’s that some professionals have had carried out And How the Mrna is designed to work, Evidence shows that it is designed to get into cells via your blood it nukes your T cells and causes swelling of lymph nodes and doctors are unable to tell if cancer or not
That youtube pro jab so called quack and his aspiration theory would only account for adverse effects within hours of jabbing
not those who suffer days and weeks later on that crap in the shots gets into your blood it is designed to do so, but it doesn’t stimulate a response that protects you the spike protein it tells your system to create is said to be toxic, and creating antibodies forever against a virus that has never been isolated in nature, or purified , will overload your system rendering it useless against any virus, which is probably by design, the other con,
is if you die within 14 days of a jab, you are regarded as un jabbed, but if you die within 28 days of a positive PCR test so matter if you were run over by a bus they still enter died with conjob on the death cert, how can that be right?CDC by the way say they will no longer recognize the PCR test after 31st dec 21 only took them 2yrs to admit it doesn’t detect viruses or infections ,lol They have no way of detecting variants either using the methods they are using Corona viruses mutate slowly unlike FLU and SARS1 from 2003 ahas only changed mutated by 23% in all this time And no virus of this type would still be rampant in the community after this time independent scientists say by the autumn of last year we would have reached herd immunity and that would also protect us from the variants for decades too, but corrupt govts and their paid propagandists MSM will never tell you the truth
The GOVT’S have spent billions or our money on these injections and are determined and desperate to inject everyone many times , If you think this booster will be the last ,think again, I’m not an anti vaxer just like i’m not as racist or farr white extremist, my body my choice not anyone else’s and i won’t discriminate against those who are jabbed but some of them seem to think it is ok to discriminate against those who are un jabbed because they won’t keep an open mind they have sucumb to the GOVT psyop
Time for me to stop the good natured baiting, the ■■■■ taking and the TN ‘sport’'.
All you lot who are loving all of this and are ready to accept anything you are told to do,.without question…because the experts tell us to , just have a butcher’s at this.
It is getting out of hand, it is ■■■■ madness, enough is enough.
The 2 countries famous for all this in their history are relishing it all and carrying out their draconian laws with far too much enthusiasm for my liking.
Separating certain members of society and alienating them, setting citizen against citizen, keeping certain kids from school,.harassment in the likes of restaurants demanding to see I.d.s, one step away from getting them to sew symbols on their clothes.
Something needs done before it creeps further into our country.
As the narrator/newsreader said, he himself chose to be vaccined but you have to respect those who chose not to.
And that is for whatever that reason may be, or whether or not you agree with their views, no matter how bizarre those views may or may not be.
As said…it is not the ■■■■ Black death, even if some of you on here think it is.
Watch and be alarmed at the severity of some of this stuff.
Covid…147,000 deaths from 11.5million cases?
Vaccine…72(?) deaths from 128million doses given?
Does anyone really need to get their calculator new batteries to work that out?
back of a ■■■ packet…
2,000 times as many deaths, from one tenth the number of occurrences…ish.
So…the vaccine is about 20,000 times safer than the virus.
I`m open to any corrections.
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AND MOST of them will have said to of died WITH in 28 days or 60 days of a PCR test,( Not FROM ), which is flawed And the number of deaths from the jabs in the uk is at least 1,800 that have been reported to the MHRA yellow card reporting system with is likely to be only a fraction of the real number, and in 2020 most of those who died in care homes where given Blanket DNR notices and put on end of life care MIDAZOLAM and Morphine dead within 3 days (LIVERPOOL CARE PATHWAY) AND THEY ARE STILL USING THIS IN HOSPITALS TODAY even though a INDEPENDENT report condemned it, and it was officially abandoned
Does the crap that Govt and MSM spout about those who question or disagree with the official narratives not make you question why that is?
If i had said that jab passports would be a thing 12 months ago you would have cried conspiracy theorist, but here we are, And that time frame is now only 6 mths from conspiracy to fact
robroy:
Time for me to stop the good natured baiting, the ■■■■ taking and the TN ‘sport’'.
All you lot who are loving all of this and are ready to accept anything you are told to do,.without question…because the experts tell us to , just have a butcher’s at this.
It is getting out of hand, it is [zb] madness, enough is enough.
The 2 countries famous for all this in their history are relishing it all and carrying out their draconian laws with far too much enthusiasm for my liking.
Separating certain members of society and alienating them, setting citizen against citizen, keeping certain kids from school,.harassment in the likes of restaurants demanding to see I.d.s, one step away from getting them to sew symbols on their clothes.
Something needs done before it creeps further into our country.
PS… You do know that the USA has compulsory vaccines for kids to go to school?
As the narrator/newsreader said, he himself chose to be vaccined but you have to respect those who chose not to.
And that is for whatever that reason may be, or whether or not you agree with their views, no matter how bizarre those views may or may not be.
As said…it is not the [zb] Black death, even if some of you on here think it is.
Watch and be alarmed at the severity of some of this stuff.
So, since you say you take nothing at face value…
Who is this vid made by?
And is what they are saying accurate? Is it a balanced view?
So once more it does not fit in with what you think, and goes against your scare campaign, ,.so let me guess.
‘■■■■■■■■’ made by ‘muppets’ ?
I’ll try and find a vid for you that tells us all to stop living our lives, hide under the bed and only go out when you go to work…wearing your mask of course.
Then you can back it up with an item from your vast library of links. and say…‘’‘Well it must be accurate, this is what the experts say’ .
robroy:
So once more it does not fit in with what you think, and goes against your scare campaign, ,.so let me guess.
‘■■■■■■■■’ made by ‘muppets’ ?
I’ll try and find a vid for you that tells us all to stop living our lives, hide under the bed and only go out when you go to work…wearing your mask of course.
Then you can back it up with an item from your vast library of links. and say…‘’‘Well it must be accurate, this is what the experts say’ .
I havent commented one way or tother!
If you have researched it then thatll save me the time wont it?
If you haven`t researched it then, fine, your choice. Take it at face value.
Did you know that the US has had a vaccine policy for school admissions for many years? (obviously not C19)
And other Euro countries too? France and Italy particularly.
Australia vaccination is compulsory to receive welfare.
The reporting is “Wow ! Look !” but seems to be saying what has been the case for years in some countries.
Oh, and CBN is founded by and run by family of TV Evangelist Pat Roberson.
I admire your perseverance Franglais but I feel you are banging your head against a brick wall as they say.
Some just can’t be helped I’m afraid unless they get the virus and then they are begging for the vaccine seemingly. There will be some pointless deaths to come unfortunately.
Had an email from a mate back home who is a avid Facebook and twitter reader. He tells me they are full of expert virologists too but with no qualifications. Very much like this thread.
jakethesnake:
I admire your perseverance Franglais but I feel you are banging your head against a brick wall as they say.
Some just be helped I’m afraid unless they get the virus and then they are begging for the vaccine seemingly. There will be some pointless deaths to come unfortunately.
Had an email from a mate back home who is a avid Facebook and twitter reader. He tells me they are full of expert virologists too but with no qualifications. Very much like this thread.
SINCE when can a Human being become infected with a IN SILICO genomic sequence that was assembled using GEN BANK samples ? in SILICO on a computer NOT IN NATURE It’s been 2 yrs never been ill worn a muzzle or believed in any of this bollox and i’ll never take the toxic arm spear
robroy:
Time for me to stop the good natured baiting, the ■■■■ taking and the TN ‘sport’'.
All you lot who are loving all of this and are ready to accept anything you are told to do,.without question…because the experts tell us to , just have a butcher’s at this.
It is getting out of hand, it is [zb] madness, enough is enough.
The 2 countries famous for all this in their history are relishing it all and carrying out their draconian laws with far too much enthusiasm for my liking.
Separating certain members of society and alienating them, setting citizen against citizen, keeping certain kids from school,.harassment in the likes of restaurants demanding to see I.d.s, one step away from getting them to sew symbols on their clothes.
Something needs done before it creeps further into our country.
As the narrator/newsreader said, he himself chose to be vaccined but you have to respect those who chose not to.
And that is for whatever that reason may be, or whether or not you agree with their views, no matter how bizarre those views may or may not be.
As said…it is not the [zb] Black death, even if some of you on here think it is.
Watch and be alarmed at the severity of some of this stuff.
That is absolutely shocking. But equally as shocking will be the number of covidiots who watch that and don’t see it as the complete removal of liberties that it is. It is absolutely indefensible, que Franglais…………
, just have a butcher’s at this.