Juddian all I will say is you certainly picked the right avatar. 
Stick to talking about lorries.
You make far more sense. 
Coming from you Jake that’s rich, but then self awareness isn’t exactly one of your better points.
The avatar was chosen after comments from another holier than thou poster, similar poster in many ways to yourself, but then the borg do tend to sound alike.
Juddian:
Franglais, frankly i’m bored of the whole debate, i really don’t care what you or anyone else does from now on, i’m not masking and nor is my wife or daughter the only way they’ll get a medical experiment into our bodies is when we’ve joined austria and soon germany and gone full 1930’s central europe once again and our version of the ss, increasingly the old bill seem up for this across the world, throw us onto the cattle cars.
I wish you and others like you, all of us in fact, all the best for the future whatever it may bring, as i’ve said from the beginning of this farce i hope and pray i’m proved wrong in what i think this was all about from the start.One thing though, you keep making insinuations about retired medical experts or even current ones who haven’t yet been sacked for wrong think, making videos on certain platforms, and if they happen to make the price of a meal out (some are not monetized at all) that somehow taints their views.
Do you imagine for one moment that those medical practioners and approved scientists going along with the ever shifting narrative(just as govts in much of the western world are) are doing so from a position of worrying about being able to afford next month’s electric bill?Those who are having to put videos and blog type communications out on platforms you might disaprove of are doing so because they are being censored by the mainstream and big tech on approved channels, the same big tech who have made untold £billions over the last 20 months.
Forget the money then.
But where is Coleman’s evidence?
Being on platforms that repeat the same thing over and over with no challenges is what? I think RobRoy has a word for it.
Coleman is off certain channels but his videos are freely available elsewhere. I’ve seen some of them you have put up and followed through with others in the same sites.
I don’t think any I have seen so far have any substance to them. Too many refer to each other and admit no criticism.
You speak of free speech and debate, where is it in those platforms you link to?
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Repeating the same message is NOT giving proof or evidence. It does however give a norm where the background, is however wrong accepted as the norm.
Who out there is showing how/where the false figures are? Who is showing the true figures?
A man sat in chair may repeat the same stuff, but without any support it is empty.
As i said Franglais i’m bored to death with it all.
Its not just Coleman, there’s hundreds of medics and others connected out there who have started to speak out despite it meaning damage to their livelihoods, if they can’t get their voices heard on the mainstream they’ll have to gravitate to other platforms you don’t approve of or stay silent which obviously is the intention of those at the back of this.
Carry on by all means, but apart from the odd tease here i’m giving up trying to communicate with those of closed minds over these issues.
Franglais:
robroy:
It’s just dawned on me why you immediately wrote off my link.
A bit of self realisation maybe that what (and who) the type of people they referred to, not only illustrated you but personified you.Not having a go at you over all this mate btw, (well not TOO much anyway
) just trying to point out how you come across on here to others over all this crap.
Obvious retort would be to point out how I come across on here, but I think everything has been said already.
#couldntgiveaone.I played that vid straight through once, then a couple more times in sections thinking about what was being said, what was going going on. I looked at the backgrounds of those involved. I then wrote 20 or so lines explaining what I saw, and what I thought, with my reasoning…immediately wrote it off? No.
I played it over to see what Id missed, I was looking for the proof, or theory, or idea, of what I was missing. Ive asked you what I was missing.So, again you throw lines out backed up by nothing.
Ive asked time and again why/how you think the pandemic is being exaggerated. All Ive seen so far is people saying it is being exaggerated, no facts, no figures. Nothing to back that view up.
Given there are health professionals all over the world saying there is a major problem why don`t you get it?
You did all that?? 
Ok,.so you’ll have heard the bits about authoritarianism,.willingness by many members of public to the point of growing to like being told what to do, blind compliance after listening to official rhetoric and opinion, can’t think who or what gas given me a sense of familiarity on all of these points.
I ve answered you time and time again that I don’t know why the exaggeration is clearly evident (to some) .
As for proof, it’s a bit like you saying you did not nick my car after I actually observed you doing so, …can’t prove it but I know what I saw with my own eyes, even if you say it didn’t happen.and that I imagined it.
I agree with everything Juddian has said with his recent posts.
Also may i add that if anyone wants to see free speech and grown up debates on this issue on mainstream media then i suggest listening to TalkRadio. This channel is the only place you will get mainstream “journalists” challenging the ever increasing tyrannical measures imposed against the public.
As Juddian said, never ever will i have a covid vaccine, even if it meant losing my home and job.
As for the mask, just say you’re exempt and no-one can question you about it
Cheers AM, if we meet up in the gulag i’d like to say i’ll gladly stand the first round, but the chances are we’ll be brewing our own.
Boris Johnson announces…
10yr plan, with harsher sentences and sweeping reforms, to tackle the supply of illegal drugs in the very same week that 11 out of 12 toilets in the House of Commons (inc male, female and disabled toilets) test positive for traces of cocaine.
c&p from reddit fake news old news i dont care anymore
yourhavingalarf:
Boris Johnson announces…10yr plan, with harsher sentences and sweeping reforms, to tackle the supply of illegal drugs in the very same week that 11 out of 12 toilets in the House of Commons (inc male, female and disabled toilets) test positive for traces of cocaine.
c&p from reddit fake news old news i dont care anymore
Cocaine is very much a middle and upper class drug, the very people who’d be mortified to be lumped in with the common drug addict. They don’t stop for a minute to think that their “bit of a laugh at a dinner party” is funding terrorism, criminal gangs and all manner of underworld activities.
^^^ rules is only for the plebs to follow, twas always thus.
Not as i’m bothered two hoots about illegal drugs soft hard or whatever, never touched one and never will, but if soft buggers want to destroy what few brain cells they have, be my guest.
Ok Juddian, I get that you are bored with this subject and that’s your perogative but answer me one simple question in all honesty.
When you read or see on the news that someone had died of covid because they were not vaccinated what goes through your mind? What about all the ones that died before the vaccine?
Look at SA now. 99% of people hospitalised are unvaccinated. Just look at the percentage of the population that have taken the vaccine compared to those that haven’t. And an awful lot of them have had no choice.
I totally understand everything you hear on the news is not always totally correct but I don’t understand why you are against a vaccine that has saved thousands of lives and will save plenty more.
Latest positive news from Dr Campbell.
jakethesnake:
Ok Juddian, I get that you are bored with this subject and that’s your perogative but answer me one simple question in all honesty.When you read or see on the news that someone had died of covid because they were not vaccinated what goes through your mind?.
If I may answer that; I feel that it’s such a waste when somebody dies early, I don’t feel any sadder nor any happier if they’re vaccinated or not vaccinated . Vaccinated people still die don’t they? The vast majority of people wear seatbelts in vehicles yet some of them manage to die too.
Right Jake.
What goes through my mind, well first of all i never watch read or listen to anything from the mainstream media, almost all of which is owned in some way by Vanguard and Black Rock and if you can find out exactly who owns that little lot good luck to you.
I gave up reading newspapers well over 30 years ago, for years i’ve not watched any live television whatsover and whenever a news broadcast or adverts comes on the radio either mute or change the channel if one of my favourite channels (nothing from the state broadcaster ever) is still playing music.
So, i don’t hear blatant propaganda such as massaged figures or operation fear biased reports.
I have for many years not trusted what passes for our govt, our electorates are fools in that they continue to vote for the same dead parties time and again, voting for what they are told by a bought media is the least dangerous of what are generally a bunch of bloody muppets, yet all of my life that same electorate have expected a different result…definition lunacy.
Just how the hell did Bunter manage to become leader of the present Junta and the electorate put their faith in him, our new Churchill? Jesus wept, the bod can’t comb his own bleedin barnet and makes Bidet look competent on the world stage.
Seriously does anyone really believe that Bunter and Biden are there because they are the best our countries can produce as leaders? they’re bloody bad jokes been foisted on us, those who own then are taking the ■■■■ and millions of our people have swallowed the story wholesale, i can barely believe i’m awake and this isn’t some sort of nightmare i’m living through.
Course it doesn’t matter if the other lot won the election because, guess what, they’re just the same but in a different frock.
Oh each of them have a handful of noisy rebels on the back benches, they say the right things to keep those who haven’t twigged the world is no longer what it was happy for a moment or two, but they never resign the whip do they, and they dutifully vote as told when such things as the current emergency totalitarian powers are renewed, the whole bloody thing is a farce.
This has been operation fear from day one, the only way it stops is when people wake up and say NO and mean NO, and stop complying.
the maoster:
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Ah, but I read on here we can’t believe anything from sky news.
Good point, well made
Juddian, first of all I appreciate your lengthy reply but from what I read all your mistrust is mainly in governments etc. and I can’t blame you for that.
I still don’t understand why some are against the vaccine but as much as I disagree with your thoughts on that subject I wish you all the best.
Jakey btw before I put this question to you, it ain’t loaded,.I ain’t as committed to all this anti stuff as some, as I’ve had my jab.
Now time will tell if it was a bad move, but that’s life, one big gamble, never been afraid of gambling so no big deal to me.
So…
You mention Covid deaths and the statistics thereof.
Have you any stats or knowledge that separate those just blandly reported as ‘‘dying of covid’’ to those that surely died, but died WITH it,.two very different scenarios but all lumped into one by the media and the scaremongers.
This is part of the exaggeration I keep banging on about that the likes of our Covid consultant Franglais can not (or will not) accept nor grasp.
Only people I know that have died of/with it have had serious health issues prior and during the Covid, or the type of person who never looked healthy as long as I’ve known them.
Others I know who have had it,. of various ages as I’ve said before, had flu symptoms, felt like crap for a few days,.and lost their sense of smell for a while.
Likewise Jake, as i said from the very beginning of this farce, no one wants me to be more wrong than me.
I wish all of us gets through this, not as i’m worried about the flu for most of us who are otherwise in reasonable condition, the annual flu always has taken the weak and those susceptible to breathing issues and that will never change.
I’m worried what sort of country and world our children will find when whatever the grand plan is reaches completion and what the long term effects of these untested emergency licence only rushed into production for $$$$$$$ medical treatments will have on them and their potential heirs, you and i are unimportant because how long have we got anyway, 10 or maybe 15 years if we’re lucky and manage to die a natural death.