Has anyone noticed roads shut and the crash victims are only injured, do the Police have to wait until they have reached hospital and await if they may pass away, then a crime scene is formed.?
Life changing injuries will bring a crime scene it doesnt have to be a fatal
I have gone past accidents, that were minor bumps, nothing serious.
The traffic was flowing normally, no hold ups, I have done a drop and heard on the radio, it is now chaos and severe congestion, I go past the other way, and the Highways Agency have turned up and made it worse, no offence to the Wombles, you do a great job, but on the incidents I see daily, you lot make it worse with flashing lights, car muppets brake hard assuming the Womble mobile is the Fuzz,Old Bill or the Rozzers.
Lanes coned off and a hiviz wearing convention with people wondering what is going on.
A car with a blow out that is 100 metres from the Msa but won’t drive in there to get off the hard shoulder
When I was doing that stuff, it was largely down to the paramedics at scene - If they thought the nature/extent of the injuries meant it might turn into a fatality, the full scene preservation stuff would come into play.
In foreign countries, and the road is blocked with an accident, the Police 4x4 ,s push the crashed vehicles off the road, no seven hour closure and trapped traffic for ten miles with kids and babies in need of feeding or people falling ill while sat in their cars.
It seems everyday in the UK there is a major incident and long delays.
If took five minutes at the last loo or coffee stop, you end up kicking yourself when trapped in a road closure, they take hours to turn you around the other direction.
It does not have to be a fatal, it could be a ‘likely to prove’ fatal, serious injury or a life changing injury. Police have to go on the side of caution purely because if they do not investigate and the person subsequently dies or injuries become life changing, they will be criticised for not investigating. Police are constantly under pressure to open roads, especially like last weekend when both M1 and M40 Northbound were closed. The decision to close a major route for a long time is not taken casually, despite what people think.
‘Likely to’ is the term used.
Likely to prove fatal/life changing/serious crime will cause full SOCO stuff and road closures.
Even with fatalities to keep a road closed for hours on end is just a massive over reaction…
So obssesed with finding someone to blame…
Just clear it up and get the road open…
DonutUK:
Even with fatalities to keep a road closed for hours on end is just a massive over reaction…So obssesed with finding someone to blame…
Just clear it up and get the road open…
+1
agusta58:
DonutUK:
Even with fatalities to keep a road closed for hours on end is just a massive over reaction…So obssesed with finding someone to blame…
Just clear it up and get the road open…
+1
Does that include the cases where it has subsequently been found that a fatality found dead ie killed/murdered was done in prior to the vehicle being involved in the accident.
Or do those just get overlooked ? It happens.
A lot of it is down to the insurance. If there are going to be some big injury payouts, they want to know who pays.
When I was on the railways if a fatality / accident happened a full investigation would happen, with all the relevant authorities scene cleared up and trains moved, any damage repaired all within hours. Sometimes even sooner. I think it comes down to staffing. Time is money on railways and the investigations are not done lightly, but whatever needs doing but live track access isn’t needed is done once the lines are reopened. It’s sad but true someone dies At 10am and by 12 services can be back to normal
DonutUK:
Even with fatalities to keep a road closed for hours on end is just a massive over reaction…So obssesed with finding someone to blame…
Just clear it up and get the road open…
I’m sure the families of the two 20 year old lads killed last Saturday on the M1 would disagree. I know if one of my family was killed, I would want to know why and IF someone is to blame, that I get justice.
Next time you’re in a serious accident Toby, we’ll have them scoop up your limbs and sweep you to the side of the road.
It won’t bother me if I’m scooped up in a skip, im no fixed abode.
How many pages on the Bath crash?
I think there’s lots in that area that would disagree with the push it to one side I need to get through…
Anyone got the balls to tell the family’s of the deceased oh we really can’t close the road just because your 4 year old daughter was killed…
Some times its nothing to do with a death or such. It can be as simple as the road surface is damaged by oil fuel etc and for the engineer to ignore that damage that could cause another accident it’s his neck that gets put in the noose…
It also allows the emergency services to work in a safe environment. If people are trapped amongst the wreckage it can sometimes take over an hour just to free them and that’s without the police doing all their business of measuring up and photo taking.
smokinbarrels:
It also allows the emergency services to work in a safe environment. If people are trapped amongst the wreckage it can sometimes take over an hour just to free them and that’s without the police doing all their business of measuring up and photo taking.
On the bright side after all the moaning about waiting at RDC’s for hours with no driver facilities you think some drivers would be grateful to arrive 3hrs late and just get tipped off 
DonutUK:
Even with fatalities to keep a road closed for hours on end is just a massive over reaction…So obssesed with finding someone to blame…
Just clear it up and get the road open…
+2 I have made my thoughts clear on this many times so won’t repeat it.
DonutUK:
Even with fatalities to keep a road closed for hours on end is just a massive over reaction…So obssesed with finding someone to blame…
Just clear it up and get the road open…
Would you say that if it was your child who had been killed…