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switchlogic:
Carryfast:
On that note hopefully if we get Brexit we’ll at least be able to spec them again here.Like the rest of the English speaking world.That’s some serious wishful thinking!
No Luke, it’s not wishful thinking, he’s off his nut!
Driving a lorry with a Fuller is a PITA, I know because I do just that, compared to a synchro box it is a nicer change, as long as you get it right of course, which I do most of the time, it’s a nice simple glide from one gear to the next, I never use the clutch apart from pulling away, a split is almost effortless, just a quick lift of the throttle and it slips in sweet as a nut.
My other lorry has ishift and it’s much nicer to drive, especially in the mountains, the shifts go through seamlessly and when down changing to bring the revs up for maximum engine brake performance it changes far quicker than I can with a Fuller, meaning that freewheeling is kept to a minimum and that is much safer.
The reason I bought the lorry with the Fuller was nothing to do with its shift quality or any macho crap, it was simply because everything else about the lorry was exactly what I wanted and as I pay for any repairs, the added complications of ishift are a bit daunting, but I’ll tell you this for free, the next new one I buy will be an ishift, especially if I can get hold of one of those twin clutch ones, I honestly wouldn’t care if I ever held a gear stick again.
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switchlogic:
caledoniandream:
Nothing learns you driving like a mature truck.< the truth >
It,s much better now, and we should be grateful
That’s possibly one of the most sensible well balanced posts about old vs new that’s ever appeared on this forum.
I completely agree with you both.
After many decades in this job I may have rose tinted glasses occasionally but realistically Caledoniandream is spot on.
I may grumble at the lack of a gear lever on occasion, for example, but realistically I honestly wouldn’t want one again. Nor do I miss changing filters, nipping up trailer brakes before crawling down hills in non retarded motors or changing wheels 
dieseldog999:
1.to the o/p…its a daf,so itl be prone to head probs as their a bag of crap being the remmnants of british Leyland
DAF have nothing to do with British Leyland. DAF is a Dutch Company. Leyland sold re-badged DAFs for a period but that was about as far as it got.
IndigoJo:
No. Nobody who passed any time recently would have been taught on a crash box. They went out in the very early 2000s. When I took my class 2, eight-speed manuals were the minimum. I took my class 1 on an auto.
Still plenty of crash boxes around, its just that they started out life as a synchro box but doing loads of local pallet network/parcel company work the synchros have long since fallen to bits.
Eaton didn’t manage a synchro in reverse on the 16 speed which is fine once you remember .
This would be fun for about an hour
I’m thinking its a 4 over 4 splitter (left stick splitter, middle 4 speed and right stick range) But what I am a little puzzled about is; when he splits the gears why is he taking the gear (middle stick) to neutral then back into the same gear ?
Conor:
dieseldog999:
1.to the o/p…its a daf,so itl be prone to head probs as their a bag of crap being the remmnants of british LeylandDAF have nothing to do with British Leyland. DAF is a Dutch Company. Leyland sold re-badged DAFs for a period but that was about as far as it got.
Well, apart from owning them, going bust because of them and now sharing the same parent in Paccar. We’re you not around in the late 80s early 90s when Leyland DAF first appeared then went bust causing Paccar to step in?
Good little anecdote is the boss of Paccar wanted Leyland too, but DAF got there first. Its rumoured he said ‘I’ll be back to buy the whole ■■■■ lot then’ and that’s what Paccar did, bought the lot after DAFs demise
It kind of rings a bell that in the late 60s/early 70s the engine in a DAF was Leyland based and designed by Leyland, but I could be way off here.
I remember the time that Luke refers to when DAF bought out Leyland (86ish?) the first thing my mate did was remove the Leyland lettering badge from his Marathon and replace it with ‘DAF’ after having wanting a DAF for ages. 
robroy:
lolipop:
Next thing will be refusing to take motor out because the radio is not working or no sockets to plug gadgets like Satnav kettle or TVMate, I know you are being flippant here, but it DOES happen, especially on the Sat Nav side of things.
This does happen.Saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears in the traffic office at my previous job.
A driver on his first day with the company refusing to take out the unit that was allocated to him as he felt it was unsafe due to the fact it did not have a sat nav [emoji57]
Being a fairly new driver myself i found this slightly amusing but totally pathetic.
robroy:
It kind of rings a bell that in the late 60s/early 70s the engine in a DAF was Leyland based and designed by Leyland, but I could be way off here.I remember the time that Luke refers to when DAF bought out Leyland (86ish?) the first thing my mate did was remove the Leyland lettering badge from his Marathon and replace it with ‘DAF’ after having wanting a DAF for ages.
You’re correct Rob:
DAF was also one of the first to introduce an intercooled turbocharged diesel engine into their lorries, which in these years became very evident with their 3600. Their largest 11.6-litre (710 cu in) six-cylinder turbodiesel was based on the old Leyland O.680 motor.[6] It was to be DAF’s standard large engine long into the nineties.
robroy:
It kind of rings a bell that in the late 60s/early 70s the engine in a DAF was Leyland based and designed by Leyland, but I could be way off here.I remember the time that Luke refers to when DAF bought out Leyland (86ish?) the first thing my mate did was remove the Leyland lettering badge from his Marathon and replace it with ‘DAF’ after having wanting a DAF for ages.
I think before they merged they were sort of linked too, wasn’t DAFs 11.6 litre engine based on a Leyland design? Could be wrong.
End of the day there are old trucks and knackered trucks…age has nothing to do with it in my view it’s how it’s been looked after.
We have just sold our 14 year old Volvo that used to put some 12-18 month old trucks to shame.
I think some company’s just don’t care about the trucks,with the amount you see damaged and not repaired.
yorkshire terrier:
I think some company’s just don’t care about the trucks,with the amount you see damaged and not repaired.
OR they can’t keep fixing them quick enough! 
newmercman:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
On that note hopefully if we get Brexit we’ll at least be able to spec them again here.Like the rest of the English speaking world.That’s some serious wishful thinking!
No Luke, it’s not wishful thinking, he’s off his nut!
Driving a lorry with a Fuller is a PITA, I know because I do just that, compared to a synchro box it is a nicer change, as long as you get it right of course, which I do most of the time, it’s a nice simple glide from one gear to the next, I never use the clutch apart from pulling away, a split is almost effortless, just a quick lift of the throttle and it slips in sweet as a nut.
My other lorry has ishift and it’s much nicer to drive, especially in the mountains, the shifts go through seamlessly and when down changing to bring the revs up for maximum engine brake performance it changes far quicker than I can with a Fuller, meaning that freewheeling is kept to a minimum and that is much safer.
The reason I bought the lorry with the Fuller was nothing to do with its shift quality or any macho crap, it was simply because everything else about the lorry was exactly what I wanted and as I pay for any repairs, the added complications of ishift are a bit daunting, but I’ll tell you this for free, the next new one I buy will be an ishift, especially if I can get hold of one of those twin clutch ones, I honestly wouldn’t care if I ever held a gear stick again.
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The iShift is a work of genius in my opinion. Been consistently brilliant since it first appeared and despite having what must be close to 20 years (open to correction) to catch up still none of the other manufacturers have yet even matched it let alone surpassed it. Scania may have their V8 but Volvo have something much better, iShift
Carryfast:
New generation trucks that can’t handle the miles meet new generation drivers that can’t drive.
+!
Christ almighty!!!
short,concise,and totally accurate old chap…100% on the button…I totally agree and I read the entire post…somethings wrong somewhere…are you feeling ok today?..
IndigoJo:
dieseldog999:
1.to the o/p…its a daf,so itl be prone to head probs as their a bag of crap being the remmnants of british Leyland,and if its legal,then your a limper,take what you get or get a job and laugh when someone else get the scrapheap,and 2 to priest…you have to be taking the pee…the sad thing is,you might not be.I’m not sure how legal they are under the cab; the lights work and the wheelnuts are all done up, but if it overheats a quarter of the way up Birdlip then it’s for scrap. Not sure how legal it really is; they’ve been lucky, perhaps, that whoever is pulling over trucks at the moment (I know VOSA became DVSA but I’ve not seen one of their vans for months) is mostly targeting foreign ones.
if you don’t know,then you don’t know,assuming it looks legal for your walkround,and drives with no issues,then its not your prob if they want to send you out with it needing a head job…their truck,their money,your just a bum in a seat…and if your a limper,your paid while your waiting on it to cool down…or get recovered if you manage to blow it up
dieseldog999:
Carryfast:
New generation trucks that can’t handle the miles meet new generation drivers that can’t drive.+!
Christ almighty!!!
short,concise,and totally accurate old chap…100% on the button…I totally agree and I read the entire post…somethings wrong somewhere…are you feeling ok today?..
Yep because the trucks of Yesteryear never broke down and never struggled up hills and drivers never complained that they didn’t like the truck they were given.
Priest:
IndigoJo:
They should teach you about reversing round a corner and into a parking bay at a service station.+1
I don’t actually believe im reading this…is this what represents the job nowadays?..professional driver…surely a play on words there…ffs… 