kcrussell25:
153/158? 153 is shut, not sure can get through. Also thats not a great road, lots of hills, twists and turns. Far better to go a17/15 to keep smother on the cruise.
It is showing the route of A52 then onto the A16 then onto A180
A16 north of Boston is another twisty route. Not one I would take in a truck. Its probably worse than the 158.
To be clear my issue isn’t that I went in the direction of Lincoln, but that it took me through the city rather than the ring road
Not been cocky asking you this but are you a new pass by any chance? Only I have been down the A16 many times in an artic along with plenty of others as it is a busy road and it is no problem.
Roymondo:
Tried CoPilot Professional again today while I was out with another driver doing 10 deliveries to private houses in Essex (Canvey Island, Dagenham, Hornchurch, Tilbury etc) in a 12T rigid. After twice attempting to route us through 6’ 6" width restrictions and also coming up with a route through a 7.5T weight limit I kicked it into touch and went back to my trusty TomTom (which immediately routed us around said restrictions). The TomTom isn’t perfect by any stretch, but to my eyes it stands head and shoulders above CoPilot for the sort of runs I use it for. Using a Trucker Atlas didn’t help either - the roads concerned were in residential areas and the restrictions simply don’t appear in the Philip’s Navigator road atlas due to the scale.
Have you set the restrictions in? Interested to know what your using it on, this all seems odd as I don’t know one person that has had any real issues with it, it is integrated into lots of fleet devices now.
This is integrated into a fleet device (a Windows Mobile widget running the Microlise stuff beloved by so many companies). And yes, I set the restrictions according to the vehicle used (on which point the TomTom does at least ask the user to review his vehicle/dimensions/weight settings each time he uses it, reducing the chances of a “wrong” setting being used).
kcrussell25:
153/158? 153 is shut, not sure can get through. Also thats not a great road, lots of hills, twists and turns. Far better to go a17/15 to keep smother on the cruise.
It is showing the route of A52 then onto the A16 then onto A180
A16 north of Boston is another twisty route. Not one I would take in a truck. Its probably worse than the 158.
To be clear my issue isn’t that I went in the direction of Lincoln, but that it took me through the city rather than the ring road
Not been cocky asking you this but are you a new pass by any chance? Only I have been down the A16 many times in an artic along with plenty of others as it is a busy road and it is no problem.
Yes I am a new pass. As part of my induction there was a big bit on fuel efficient driving and that they would rather us take a route a few miles longer, but may well be smoother to drive for the fuel economy
kcrussell25:
153/158? 153 is shut, not sure can get through. Also thats not a great road, lots of hills, twists and turns. Far better to go a17/15 to keep smother on the cruise.
It is showing the route of A52 then onto the A16 then onto A180
A16 north of Boston is another twisty route. Not one I would take in a truck. Its probably worse than the 158.
To be clear my issue isn’t that I went in the direction of Lincoln, but that it took me through the city rather than the ring road
I cannot understand why you couldn’t simply just re route yourself by selecting where you want to go. I use mine by choosing the route I want from my Atlas then enter it into CoPilot so it just tells me where to turn off rather than actually routing me.
I haven’t fiddled with it that much and dont see why I should need to tell it not to go through a city centre. As said I expect it to suggest a route and I will amend if required. If it needs me to do the whole route for it what’s the point?
Again I was quite happy to take the route via Lincoln, just not through the city centre. I do not understand why a truck satnav suggests this in the first place
So you’re comparing a phone app to a standalone dedicated device and using price as part of the deciding factor?
You do understand that the physical hardware components of the TomTom unit aren’t free don’t you?
Ok we’ll play it your way then, but now you must factor in the cost of your device (phone or tablet) how much did your Co Pilot Satnav cost you now?
Oh and before you come back and say “yeah but my phone isn’t just a satnav it’s a uhh phone too” that’s all well and good but if you don’t have a phone or a tablet tell me exactly how you intend to operate the Co Pilot software you’ve purchased?
tl;dr…
You cannot fairly factor price into it when comparing an app with a standalone unit.
So you’re comparing a phone app to a standalone dedicated device and using price as part of the deciding factor?
You do understand that the physical hardware components of the TomTom unit aren’t free don’t you?
Ok we’ll play it your way then, but now you must factor in the cost of your device (phone or tablet) how much did your Co Pilot Satnav cost you now?
Oh and before you come back and say “yeah but my phone isn’t just a satnav it’s a uhh phone too” that’s all well and good but if you don’t have a phone or a tablet tell me exactly how you intend to operate the Co Pilot software you’ve purchased?
tl;dr…
You cannot fairly factor price into it when comparing an app with a standalone unit.
The gps and processor of an ipad as an example, will outrun any stand alone satnav on the market. It is faster and has far more uses than a stand alone satnav. Most people have a smart phone nowadays. All the points you mention are completely invalid. As for Aponia that you keep wittering on about that you have, it works on the same principle as you are saying as a downside? Why would you have a TomTom and Aponia? You do not make any sense at all.
kcrussell25:
I haven’t fiddled with it that much and dont see why I should need to tell it not to go through a city centre. As said I expect it to suggest a route and I will amend if required. If it needs me to do the whole route for it what’s the point?
Again I was quite happy to take the route via Lincoln, just not through the city centre. I do not understand why a truck satnav suggests this in the first place
Well no disrespect to you but you have to set your truck details, dimensions etc into it, there is a lot of info you input into it to get the routes you refer, also if you haven’t fiddled with it much then I suspect that the reason it is giving you routes through a town center. The routes you say are not where you would not like to take a truck down is odd as these are well known HGV routes and nothing wrong with the route it gives. If you prefer motorways then there is no need for a sat nav at all.
UKtramp:
The gps and processor of an ipad as an example, will outrun any stand alone satnav on the market. It is faster and has far more uses than a stand alone satnav. Most people have a smart phone nowadays. All the points you mention are completely invalid.
The iPhones have a dual core processor (and has to run many other apps in the background, you know like being a phone and such like), whilst the new TomToms have a quad core processor and have to concentrate on… Well, being a Satnav
UKtramp:
As for Aponia that you keep wittering on about that you have, it works on the same principle as you are saying as a downside? Why would you have a TomTom and Aponia?
And do you know why I started “wittering on about” Aponia? Because someone wouldn’t stfu about Co Pilot at every given opportunity!
I never once have said that Aponia is better or worse than Co Pilot, I have however said that Aponia is cheaper for much the same thing running the exact same map data.
Why would I have a TomTom? Easy 1) I like TomToms, 2) It frees up my phone to run other useful apps like driver timers or PornHub 3) TT Live Traffic beats EVERYTHING else out there, 4) Aponia app has paid for itself I bought it 3-4 yrs ago for £15 (full Europe maps) and have had it on 4 separate devices (current phone, old phone, Hudl2 and my Lenovo 10" tablet) 5) I can afford a TomTom 6) It apparently ■■■■■■ you off
UKtramp:
You do not make any sense at all.
I’ve seen you write that exact comment to so many people on here, yet you are the one spouting complete bollux most of the time… ironic huh.
UKtramp:
The gps and processor of an ipad as an example, will outrun any stand alone satnav on the market. It is faster and has far more uses than a stand alone satnav. Most people have a smart phone nowadays. All the points you mention are completely invalid.
The iPhones have a dual core processor (and has to run many other apps in the background, you know like being a phone and such like), whilst the new TomToms have a quad core processor and have to concentrate on… Well, being a Satnav
UKtramp:
As for Aponia that you keep wittering on about that you have, it works on the same principle as you are saying as a downside? Why would you have a TomTom and Aponia?
And do you know why I started “wittering on about” Aponia? Because someone wouldn’t stfu about Co Pilot at every given opportunity!
I never once have said that Aponia is better or worse than Co Pilot, I have however said that Aponia is cheaper for much the same thing running the exact same map data.
Why would I have a TomTom? Easy 1) I like TomToms, 2) It frees up my phone to run other useful apps like driver timers or PornHub 3) TT Live Traffic beats EVERYTHING else out there, 4) Aponia app has paid for itself I bought it 3-4 yrs ago for £15 (full Europe maps) and have had it on 4 separate devices (current phone, old phone, Hudl2 and my Lenovo 10" tablet) 5) I can afford a TomTom 6) It apparently ■■■■■■ you off
UKtramp:
You do not make any sense at all.
I’ve seen you write that exact comment to so many people on here, yet you are the one spouting complete bollux most of the time… ironic huh.
So no apparent reasoning behind your post then, just a lot of utter nonsense. You stick with your TomTom and for your information, take this from someone in the know. Aponia is not the same software as CoPilot as you stated.
kcrussell25:
I haven’t fiddled with it that much and dont see why I should need to tell it not to go through a city centre. As said I expect it to suggest a route and I will amend if required. If it needs me to do the whole route for it what’s the point?
Again I was quite happy to take the route via Lincoln, just not through the city centre. I do not understand why a truck satnav suggests this in the first place
Well no disrespect to you but you have to set your truck details, dimensions etc into it, there is a lot of info you input into it to get the routes you refer, also if you haven’t fiddled with it much then I suspect that the reason it is giving you routes through a town center. The routes you say are not where you would not like to take a truck down is odd as these are well known HGV routes and nothing wrong with the route it gives. If you prefer motorways then there is no need for a sat nav at all.
I have inputted dimensions etc. When I said not fiddled much I meant like you saying you add the route. I still do not understand why it takes you through town rather than the ring road.
Whilst we are told to use main roads as much as possible to get to some collections and deliveries we go off them. This is the main thing I want it for. However I expect it to plan the route “correctly” in the first place. I am at Peterborough now (on my car) but it sent me straight through the weight limit at Eye Green that has been there years!
I didn’t say they had the same software I said they ran the same MAP DATA! But as someone “in the know” you no doubt already knew that they both run Navteq and TomTom run (and own) Tele Atles eh?
UKtramp:
So no apparent reasoning behind your post then, just a lot of utter nonsense.
Yeah let’s just go with that, I’m not going to get into a prolonged arguement with someone whose sole purpose is to trigger a reaction, you do you eh.
