So just pretend you’re American for a few seconds…
I predict a 25 page Carryfast heavy thread coming
switchlogic:
I predict a 25 page Carryfast heavy thread coming
Yeah I like casting the bait !!
For me, Hillary Clinton by a country mile, however I think Donald Trump will be the next President.
Harry Monk:
For me, Hillary Clinton by a country mile, however I think Donald Trump will be the next President.
I’m not after your ■■■■■■ preferences Harry. !!
Clinton!
No need of trigger happy ■■■■■■, Trump: ‘I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding’, commenting on the Middle East. No need of another Iraq or Afghanistan. When in fact it’s his country fault for the mess there in first place.
switchlogic:
I predict a 25 page Carryfast heavy thread coming
Yep works quite well, if he has a good thread where he can rant, he keeps off the other ones.
We’ve even got one of them hardworking East Europeans to keep him occupied, cheap and works all hours.
bald bloke:
So just pretend you’re American for a few seconds…
I think I’ve actually put on over a stone in those few seconds.
Should probably clarify whether this is a poll of who we think it will be or who we would want it to be.
I would prefer Trump but think it will almost certainly be Clinton. I think, Trump would actually be much less likely to start foreign wars (we’re inevitably forced to join) and mostly be interested in domestic politics where as Clinton is a foreign policy junkie and a thoroughly nasty piece of work.
Harry Monk:
For me, Hillary Clinton by a country mile, however I think Donald Trump will be the next President.
Naah, speaking ill of democrats, latino’s, muslim, minorities etc. he will not win. Also consider the fact that a woman might be for the first time President of US, many women might back her up, just of the notion that he will rule without involving US in wars, as people there are tired of them. What Trump will offer, more of the Bush megalomania.
Cruz v Trump and they choose Trump. 
.Having said that more reason for Texas to be the first state that succeeds in seceding from the Union which is what he should be standing for. 
While Clinton will be as bad as Obama.
It’s a slow start.
That old hag Clinton is corrupt just like here failure of a husband , trump is what the usa needs because it needs change and clinton wont make any changes in the interests of the people of America , She is akin to the shower of s… we have for politicians here in the uk
tommy t:
That old hag Clinton is akin to the shower of s… we have for politicians here in the uk
+1
But Trump is just their version of Boris.IE unbelievable opportunist.I can’t believe they didn’t prefer Cruz.
The sensible choice has to be Clinton, she is a seasoned politician and will make thoughtful decisions, the world will continue as we know it, which is neither good nor bad … On the other hand, Trump is a mad man and will run the country like never before, he could be a breath of fresh air, but he could cause a world war. The world will certainly be more exciting with him in charge, but maybe not the type of excitement we want.
I’m undecided.
Dolph:
Clinton!
No need of trigger happy ■■■■■■, Trump: ‘I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding’, commenting on the Middle East. No need of another Iraq or Afghanistan. When in fact it’s his country fault for the mess there in first place.
Don’t forget it was our own esteemed much loved Tony ■■■■■■ Blair who also helped to start the whole sorry mess which is now Iraq, Syria and every other God forsaken place that is now suckin the whole of Europe into something that cannot be resolved without massive loss of life, be it there’s or ours !
Dolph:
Clinton!
No need of trigger happy ■■■■■■, Trump: ‘I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding’, commenting on the Middle East. No need of another Iraq or Afghanistan. When in fact it’s his country fault for the mess there in first place.
Hilary’s not exactly full of “Peace and love” to those she considers to be the enemies of the United States.
This wouldn’t be a problem if it were not for the fact that the words “United States” really need to be replaced by “Zionist Backers” here.
The thought that a president would be working for a faction rather than the people - fills me with dread.
Much as I find Trump to be a gruff, low-charisma individual who’s not a natural person to be seen in the White House - he does represent a possible honest way for “future politics” to go.
I also like the fact that being a billionaire already - he does not need “clandestine backers that he must answer to” - which suggests that he also “cannot be bought”.
It is my understanding at this time that the “Cannot be bought” think is making him rather popular with Hispanics nationside… Hmm…
If you are “anti-establishment” and you feel that there’s too much of that “establishment” under the control of Zionist outlets like Goldman Sachs already - then that voter won’t care who the bod wearing the red ticket is - they’ll just be voting “Republican” whomever finally wins the nomination.
If those republicans who say “I won’t be getting behind Trump if he wins the nomination” are enough in number though - then Hilary, will of course, - be handed the election on a plate.
Trump’s best chance of beating Hilary is by being something popular that Obama was to beat Mitt Romney in 2012.
There’s no point being a “Popular” Republican - if that appeal does not extend to the swing voters who, in 2012, kept Obama in for his second term - despite widely dismissed as being a “Lame Duck, one-term President like Carter”…
Trump winning over Hispanics then - is a significant gain for him. Hilary must now win over the Anti-Socialist (anyone not claiming tax credits) and hope that there are enough of them to get her over the line.
In general elections - for the time being at least - being the 1% that own 99% of the wealth is NOT much help. I don’t think Simony is as big an issue in American politics as it is in this country.
Ask yourself the question: WHO benefits by MILLIONS if a major poll goes a certain way?
Not many of the general public electorate…
Cameron is lined up for a cushy EU job post-PM for example. If the EU is disbanded by that point, then that job never happens. I understand it pays around 4 times what he gets as PM.
What cushy financial deal does Trump get if he wins the whitehouse? - He’s on the record as “not minding taxes” since he pays them already in his empire. He’s more concerned about winning over people themselves to broaden that empire I would have thought. 
Hilary? - A purge on anti-Zionists (starts by declaring such opposition “Fascist” or even just “Anti-Semitic”) plus laws making it much easier for the financial sector to keep their money to themselves, plus more protection for those with the most money, plus tricking the middle-earners into paying all the taxes required to bankroll lower earners continuing tax credits.
Thus, Hilary dresses up like a “Socialist” to appeal to working class folk, in particular the African American population. Dresses up for Business - to convince them (as Blair did here) that "I’ll not be getting YOU to pay for my welfare programme - honest! and more insidiously - changing some subtle laws so that it’s even harder to bring down an elite when they break the law - but easier to bust and make disappear those who offend her administration of the Establishment.
Look at her venom towards Julian Assange for example… That strikes me as a LOT more “■■■■■■” than anything Trump has said in general about anyone.
Note that even the Hispanics seem to be backing him for putting up this wall he speaks of… Perhaps he intends staffing it with local people? - Big job creator that eh?
I don’t think there’s much danger of “Putting the fox in charge of the henhouse” here - as ordinary Hispanics fear wealthy Hispanic criminals coming across the border with impunity to do “gangland hits” and suchlike.
For the honest working class Hispanic then - a new kind of “Pull the ladder up” policy…
Oh! If only we could get our immigrant population HERE to vote for OUT in the coming referendum on a similar kind of logic!
Surely they must realize that “the more we take, the less the ones already here will get…”? 
For me it’s Trump.
He says what a lot are thinking.
Clinton is just edited by the real bosses.
Clinton or trump is a bit like saying “Do you want to be shot or stabbed?”
Neither is an appealing choice and you know which ever one it is you’re going to suffer
They say the world watching America choose this round is essentially watching America take it’s IQ test. Well, considering the two clowns in the running, the IQ test is already on low ground. I’ve just come back from a week in Texas at work. Spent some time in LA. Got about in a car. Lovely people, very friendly in Texas. There’s some grounded, very decent people, but an awful lot of good folk who’ve just been brought up on bad propaganda, monetarism and commercialism, it’s not their fault.
But America does have it’s hands on the wheel of the world and it’s always frightened me. It’s like giving a chimp the keys to a Ferrari.
switchlogic:
I predict a 25 page Carryfast heavy thread coming
25 pages?
You think he’ll give up early then?