I’m not sure they were. After all it wasn’t a big sweeping ban telling everybody ‘you must buy a new fridge now’ merely a ban on new products containing CFC’s therefore their use tailing off as they finished their working life. Also don’t forget aerosols contained them too, and if I remember rightly the UK was the first country in the world to ban there use.
There was a debate on radio ■■■■■■■ about the snow few days back. A pensioner was asked if he’d ever seen anything as bad as this in November before. The answer was yes in the 1930’s, snow up to here etc, miles worse. So to say this latest batch is a sign of something different it utter nonsense and what is deemed as ‘‘NORMAL’’ weather or temps for this country is only a satistic of averages.
They told us we would get wetter warmer winters only 2 years back.
dont really think im gonna worry about it till norfolk dissapears 
canaldrifter:
I’m sure that our scientists will be very pleased that you have proved them wrong… if you have… or is your pronouncement just an uneducated guess?
Tone
The only way to get funding for any research is to put the tag ‘climate change’ in the title, so there is a huge financial advantage to ‘proving’ its real.
Global warming has slowed because of pollution
Down is up - up is down.
Upcoming paper in Nature — Greenland ice sheet melt: “it’s weather, not climate”
Bishop Hill
switchlogic:
dazaster:
its all bull…
.Climate change is real, it’s happening, excuse me if I listen to Nobel winning scientists over truck drivers on this subject but there you have it.
Quite.
Tone
dazaster:
dont really think im gonna worry about it till norfolk dissapears
If only…
Tone
merc0447:
Climate change? What climate change?
you call that snow?
that’s E20, tallinn - st. petersburg at the moment
switchlogic:
I’m not sure they were. After all it wasn’t a big sweeping ban telling everybody ‘you must buy a new fridge now’ merely a ban on new products containing CFC’s therefore their use tailing off as they finished their working life. Also don’t forget aerosols contained them too, and if I remember rightly the UK was the first country in the world to ban there use.
Actually what they did was stop supplying R22 and replaced it with R134A so our old fridges became obsolete, but because of the WEEE initiative and the do gooders who decided that every African family should have a washing machine and a working refrigerator before they have any shoes. Apart from that, they are lucky to have more than 3 hours of generated power per day. So the biggest threat in Africa may not be a mosquito, it is probably botulism 
The old vehicles which we did the Eastern Bloc with were snapped up and sent into the rain forests to chop them down, after all they didn’t want any of these modern trucks that needs a computer to reset the oil warning lamp, it is no good if they haven’t got any electric.
For me global warming doesnt exist, just the constant cycle of the earths crust heating up and cooling down.
100 years of white Christmas’s. 1906, 1916, 1927, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1968, 1970,1976, 1981, 1996 and 1999. This is up to 2004
switchlogic:
dazaster:
its all bull…get a pint glass of water, pop in a few icecubes, now mark the level, wait till the cubes melt and guess what, the water level is the same!
so melting ice already surrounded by water will make no diff to sea levels…i should be a boffin, but only mr roobles type
Your missing the point that a huge amount of the melting ice rests on land.
As for somebody mentioning the ozone layer. That big fuss lead to the banning of CFC’s, thereby allowing the ozone to recover.
Climate change is real, it’s happening, excuse me if I listen to Nobel winning scientists over truck drivers on this subject but there you have it.
That ice melt happens every summer, I doubt its any thing to worry about.
I dunno what all the fuss is about with this climate change malarky.
In a few decades there will be no fossil fuels left to burn so no more excess co2… plant some trees & crisis sorted 
Melchett:
no fossil fuels left to burn
= end of humanity!
Wheel Nut:
For me global warming doesnt exist, just the constant cycle of the earths crust heating up and cooling down.100 years of white Christmas’s. 1906, 1916, 1927, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1968, 1970,1976, 1981, 1996 and 1999. This is up to 2004
Truckers’ logic. Don’t ya just love it? 
Tone
canaldrifter:
Wheel Nut:
For me global warming doesnt exist, just the constant cycle of the earths crust heating up and cooling down.100 years of white Christmas’s. 1906, 1916, 1927, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1968, 1970,1976, 1981, 1996 and 1999. This is up to 2004
Truckers’ logic. Don’t ya just love it?
Tone
yeah its great, better than the BS some groups come out with to justify what they believe in!
canaldrifter:
Wheel Nut:
For me global warming doesnt exist, just the constant cycle of the earths crust heating up and cooling down.100 years of white Christmas’s. 1906, 1916, 1927, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1968, 1970,1976, 1981, 1996 and 1999. This is up to 2004
Truckers’ logic. Don’t ya just love it?
Tone
Global warming caused by old ■■■■■ pottering up canals in 60’ boats powered by a smoky Gardner engine 
Global warming, one big lie, organised by Governments and by Governments sponsored scientists!
What is this nonsense about being “Carbon Neutral”? we are Carbon Neutral every time we fire that engine up, we are burning fossil fuels, and fossil fuels are made of…trees, plants animals who absorbed the carbon before 
Never get mentioned by the people in the know, because that would highlight their fraud to overtax us on one big lie.
We are in atmosphere that means nothing get added or taken away, otherwise it wouldn’t be an atmosphere.
If we want to take some away, it has to be done by extreme force, like for an example a rocket to the moon, or when we want to add something it need to be very strong to BREAK IN to the atmosphere, look at the heat protection of the shuttle when he comes back, or at the glow of a meteorite.
So everything what happens was already here, so where does the change come from.
If you look into the last ice age, the run up to it was relative similar to the current situation, so we still have a couple of hundred years to go before the Big Freeze (the real big one)
If you listen to these Nobel price winners, first we would get wet summers and warm wet winters, now the last 2 years proofed that this was nonsense they changed their tune and now the cold harsh winter is a result of global warming.
We had in 1962 a winter who was much colder and harsher and in 1976 the hottest summer ever, where did they come from…………………■■?
Environment and Global warming are instruments to scare the public and to make them pay.
It’s a little bid similar what the Government did about the Gulf War, make us scared and the general public will agree and pay for it.
Do you believe these pieces of bad quality films they showed about Bin Laden?? They are having a giraffe, a terrorist organisation who can blow the twin towers up, have a camera of less quality than is in my 25 quid Asda phone…………………I don’t thinks so.
But Governments all over the world didn’t die from their first lie, so they will keep lying and miss leading the public till the end of time, the Human race will destroy their selves not by Global warming but by believing the Bull ■■■■ produced by Global governments
One little add-on
Approx 40 years ago our geographic books learned us already that the ice mass on the South pole was growing and the ice mass on the North Pole was melting, causing in parts of Greenland the ground to come to the surface in the Summer.
(Greenland is called what it is because the ice has a green glow, not that there are nice little green grass areas)
Scientist reckoned at that time that the weight of the ice on the South pole could cause the Earth to tip slightly and have a massive climate change.
I guess the book was probably 10 years old at that time, so there is nothing news, the only thing what they couldn’t think of in the 60’s how to rip the public of for that.
Apparently, it’s all to do with a hole in the ozone layer somewhere above the Arctic.
We don’t live anywhere near there, so what’s the problem?
dieseldave:
Apparently, it’s all to do with a hole
i know the feeling … 
bowser:
dieseldave:
Apparently, it’s all to do with a holei know the feeling …