I’m all for a fair days pay for a fair days work.
I am not belittling anyone by saying this. I am fed up to the back teeth of hearing about the Minimum living wage constantly going up.
Now correct me if I’m wrong, but soon the minimum wage will be the same as professional drivers. If not better.
Something needs to be done about a drivers minimum wage going up in line with the living wage and inflation.
If I arrange the chairs, will someone bring the popcorn 
Socketset:
If I arrange the chairs, will someone bring the popcorn
No pop corn but got these
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playmate222:
Something needs to be done about a drivers minimum wage going up in line with the living wage and inflation.
Something?
So what do you suggest exactly? 
robroy:
playmate222:
Something needs to be done about a drivers minimum wage going up in line with the living wage and inflation.Something?
So what do you suggest exactly?
I think he is suggesting someone else sorting his problem to be honest. 
Popcorns etc with violins playing in the background yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnn
Darkside:
robroy:
playmate222:
Something needs to be done about a drivers minimum wage going up in line with the living wage and inflation.Something?
So what do you suggest exactly?I think he is suggesting someone else sorting his problem to be honest.
First one who comes out with…‘‘Well we should all stick together’’ gets a slap.
The worst job I had recently was £9.70ph. The second worst job was £15ph. The downer is that after the first job I couldn’t afford any popcorn and the second job left me too stressed and exhausted to eat them. The good news is someone else will do the job, always. 
blue estate:
‘Popped, not fried’. Are they any good then?
robroy:
First one who comes out with…‘‘Well we should all stick together’’ gets a slap.
gilet jaune non lavé?
Nothing will ever happen,I’m in West Yorkshire and know there’s plenty paying less than a tenner an hour and one even paying £9 and less than £11 overtime after 5O hour,but his drivers week in week out Max there hours out and race round for the bloke,and while you have drivers doing this the pay will never ever go up
yorkshire terrier:
Nothing will ever happen,I’m in West Yorkshire and know there’s plenty paying less than a tenner an hour and one even paying £9 and less than £11 overtime after 5O hour,but his drivers week in week out Max there hours out and race round for the bloke,and while you have drivers doing this the pay will never ever go up
Yep…And they’ll be boasting to others about their job being ‘‘good money’’ , because they see the top line amount, and conveniently ignore how many hours they have done to earn it.
Some drivers are as thick as pig ■■■■.
robroy:
Darkside:
robroy:
playmate222:
Something needs to be done about a drivers minimum wage going up in line with the living wage and inflation.Something?
So what do you suggest exactly?I think he is suggesting someone else sorting his problem to be honest.
First one who comes out with…‘‘Well we should all stick together’’ gets a slap.
You hold them, I’ll slap them…
Just do more hours, you’ll make up for it and then some.
playmate222:
I’m all for a fair days pay for a fair days work.
I am not belittling anyone by saying this. I am fed up to the back teeth of hearing about the Minimum living wage constantly going up.Now correct me if I’m wrong, but soon the minimum wage will be the same as professional drivers. If not better.
Something needs to be done about a drivers minimum wage going up in line with the living wage and inflation.
Well if drivers are stupid enough to keep working & getting shafted over pay it’ll never change, well I guess we can live in hope that some billy bigwig will read a few disgruntled posts on truck forums & give the industry a billion pound cash injection…
If it’s that hard for you leave & go make some money doing something else.
Supply and demand, there’s too many drivers chasing too few good jobs.
When there’s a danger of a shortage, or an industry (almost any industry involving the working class) warns its getting short of people or those currently doing the job are in danger of gaining some bargaining strength, the govt of the day respond by either making the requirements for the job simpler, subsidise training with money taken from taxpayers to make up the numbers, or import large numbers of those who already have a suitable qualification, parity of skill levels not always applicable…the last method is good for the govt and employers because it helps them to have a divided so easily ruled society.
If you’re stuck in a poor wage area then you are going to have a hard time finding well paid lorry driving work, that is sadly a fact of life, for those in better areas then there’s more choice and more chance of there being jobs requiring a bit more than just driving, these usually pay better anyway, and then there’s proper unionised jobs where the terms are normally better overall.
There isn’t going to be a sudden wage increase overall for drivers, there’s too many drivers for that to happen and none of the current political parties is planning to stop or even slow immigration, so the never ending supply of ever cheaper foreigners will continue, all you can do is make yourself a better bet to employ than others in such a country, and find a job where skills attitude aptitude etc are valued and rewarded, yes it probably sounds selfish but we’re pretty well individuals in this job there isn’t going to be a sudden 30% pay rise for drivers across the board, so it’s up to each of us to make the best we can of our skills and our situation wherever we happen to live.
I know drivers who live huge distances from work, who spend their working week in the vehicle (the odd one or two living all week in small motorhomes or even rent flats), so it pays them to travel 2 or 3 or more hours commute from where they live so they can work the better jobs and areas.
There is no magic answer to this, it’s no good just complaining about poor pay, you’ve got to find your own way out of the rut.
The trouble with drivers (not alone in this) is that when they do land a good job, they very quickly forget what went before and fail to appreciate what they do have, so soon fall into stupid habits like milking the sick pay and not doing their best in all sorts of ways (ie their best, looking after the vehicle, equipment, customer, goods) and before you know it there’s another job gone ■■■■ up only to be put out to contract by any one of the logistics giants, in other words ruined.
There have been many good jobs destroyed by greed and stupidity.
robroy:
yorkshire terrier:
Nothing will ever happen,I’m in West Yorkshire and know there’s plenty paying less than a tenner an hour and one even paying £9 and less than £11 overtime after 5O hour,but his drivers week in week out Max there hours out and race round for the bloke,and while you have drivers doing this the pay will never ever go upYep…And they’ll be boasting to others about their job being ‘‘good money’’ , because they see the top line amount, and conveniently ignore how many hours they have done to earn it.
Some drivers are as thick as pig [zb].
Seriously robroy a lad I know works at this firm,what he does in a week is unbelievable,he will also do anything they tell him.
The gaffer moans if they stop for a shower etc.
Lad I know maxs out Monday to Friday out all week and works every other Saturday but he wants a full day Saturday not just a run in.
He looks like a zombie and has regular health problems,he turned down a job doing 12 hour a day Monday to Friday home every night for £30 a week less than he gets for 70 hours and away all week… 
Some folk just can’t be helped
yorkshire terrier:
robroy:
yorkshire terrier:
Nothing will ever happen,I’m in West Yorkshire and know there’s plenty paying less than a tenner an hour and one even paying £9 and less than £11 overtime after 5O hour,but his drivers week in week out Max there hours out and race round for the bloke,and while you have drivers doing this the pay will never ever go upYep…And they’ll be boasting to others about their job being ‘‘good money’’ , because they see the top line amount, and conveniently ignore how many hours they have done to earn it.
Some drivers are as thick as pig [zb].Seriously robroy a lad I know works at this firm,what he does in a week is unbelievable,he will also do anything they tell him.
The gaffer moans if they stop for a shower etc.
Lad I know maxs out Monday to Friday out all week and works every other Saturday but he wants a full day Saturday not just a run in.
He looks like a zombie and has regular health problems,he turned down a job doing 12 hour a day Monday to Friday home every night for £30 a week less than he gets for 70 hours and away all week…
Some folk just can’t be helped
I wouldn’t bother my arse about him mate, he’ll be a candidate for premature aging, heart attack then a quick death before he reaches his 50th, I’ve seen it many times over the years…and I ain’t joking either.
So be warned all the teararse heroes on here ! 
yorkshire terrier:
Seriously robroy a lad I know works at this firm,what he does in a week is unbelievable,he will also do anything they tell him.
The gaffer moans if they stop for a shower etc.
Lad I know maxs out Monday to Friday out all week and works every other Saturday but he wants a full day Saturday not just a run in.
He looks like a zombie and has regular health problems,he turned down a job doing 12 hour a day Monday to Friday home every night for £30 a week less than he gets for 70 hours and away all week…
Some folk just can’t be helped
This 100%…
Me and a mate were talking to a whinning ‘my agency are running me ragged for peanuts’ driver. We explained who we were working for and the hourly rate we were getting which kicked his earnings out of the stadium. The following week he came up all smiling saying he was getting better money and paid on time etc. The following week after that he was kicked off the job for pulling his card in the yard. Which was something we specifically said would be a dumbass thing to do.
Some folk just can’t be helped.
I started just before the tacho came in 5or 6 years i think.I used a log book and with a little imagination I earned what I was worth.when the tacho rules came I got what I worked but worked longer ie 15 hour spread …what a joke and now after 35 years one can still do 15 hour spread…so without a union we can do nothing apart from change jobs.The tachograph I think was not really or safety although it may have helped but the real aim was what the truck was doing where it was etc,it is a spy in the cab just like most of us said …unions just half let it happen by letting us drive and work longer hours