Truckulent:
There are a few thousand deaths every year on the roads, not just cyclists.Let’s ban all vehicles all the time and this will be reduced to zero!
Fantastic…job done!
Just one tiny problem left…
It’s all about cyclists though, no one is lobbying for the 69 pedestrians killed in London this year, because there isn’t a massive militant lobby group for them.
Could always impose bans on cyclists, get them spending money to use public transport instead 
We are getting this the wrong way around, at NO point does the cyclist not SEE the truck or bus so make the cyclist, who can see the truck/bus, ALWAYS at fault for any accident.
I guarantee that if there is a lorry ban, Boris won’t ban the 18 tonners used for towing cars away to the pounds…
Reading the article, it claims that there’s not been one cyclist killed in Paris during 2011.
So if it’s not the peak time ban in place in Paris, what is it?
A cultural thing?
I’m all for it. We don’t want to be in there anyway.
just ban trucks over 18t from entering london at all times, have warehouses on the outskirts where the large trucks empty and the little ones load, double bonus, 1 they keep the heavies out and create employment in one swoop
scotstrucker:
just ban trucks over 18t from entering london at all times, have warehouses on the outskirts where the large trucks empty and the little ones load, double bonus, 1 they keep the heavies out and create employment in one swoop
But most of the accident pictures I’ve seen have involved rigid vehicles. By using 18t and lower you’re not solving the problem.
Ban the squishy little beggars from using the road at rush hour instead
Javiatrix:
Reading the article, it claims that there’s not been one cyclist killed in Paris during 2011.So if it’s not the peak time ban in place in Paris, what is it?
A cultural thing?
Definitely a cultural thing.
French are largely considerate to each other, Brits are largely selfish and care less for each other.
andygt4:
Ban the squishy little beggars from using the road at rush hour instead
+1000000
BTW. Chris Boardman is a ■■■■.
Ken.
No sod that lets go one better ban all wagons over 18t do me nicely a number of warehouses around the m25. Lets be honest how many of us go in because we want to let’s start a petition to ban HGV lol. Never happen cost will be far to high. If they fetch a peak time ban on wagons are they going to build holding areas where we can go r they ■■■■■■■■ so where the hell do we go
Quinny:
andygt4:
Ban the squishy little beggars from using the road at rush hour instead
I take it you mean drivers.
Javiatrix:
Reading the article, it claims that there’s not been one cyclist killed in Paris during 2011.So if it’s not the peak time ban in place in Paris, what is it?
A cultural thing?
In France, all motorised vehicules have to leave a 1m gap between them and the cyclists in built up areas. This rises to 1.5m outside towns and cities. And in general, this rule is followed.
i really hope it happens,lets go all the way, ban all hgvs from london,the result would be a lot less stress for us hgv drivers and more worry for the politicians as they try to figure out how to get goods into london,they probably will figure it out eventually,how about a big distribution depot outside every major city then we deliver the goods there and the likes of chris boardman have to pay the holding companies to deliver his goods in smaller vehicles,somehow i do not think he would like that,say about £100 pounds per van,i would love to see his face if he refused and they said ok you dont get your goods until you cough up oh and by the way mr boardman we charge £30 a day storage
Excellent idea a total ban of HGV’s in Londinistan, starvation and they all go home from whence they came.Sorted.
att:
Javiatrix:
Reading the article, it claims that there’s not been one cyclist killed in Paris during 2011.So if it’s not the peak time ban in place in Paris, what is it?
A cultural thing?
Definitely a cultural thing.
French are largely considerate to each other, Brits are largely selfish and care less for each other.
You ever driven round Paris. 
Try this for a reason
The very long and slightly shorter of it is that, in my opinion, London and Paris offer a fairly similar level of hazard to cyclists.
So, piqued by my own observations, I couldn’t let the number 0 go, after having actually ridden in Paris for a few days. I emailed a couple of people, including Charlie Lloyd at the LCC, who has done a lot of work on KSI numbers, and knows his stuff. According to Charlie, the Ville de Paris, from which these numbers are reported, is less than the size of TfL’s Zone 2. The numbers reported for cycling deaths in Paris are taken from a much, much smaller area, and therefore not really comparing like with like.
So what is the like-for-like comparison? In the last year, 2 cyclists have been killed in a similar-sized zone to Ville de Paris in central London, according to Charlie, who keeps track of such things. This means that a similar number of cyclists were killed in this area of London as in the Ville de Paris 2009 & 2010.
Also, no-one seems to have to hand the numbers for total km travelled by all cyclists in Ville de Paris. The number wouldn’t be all that useful for a direct comparison with London, but you could at least get the km / fatality number for a rough comparison, which would be far more useful than simply quoting raw fatality numbers, which in any case, aren’t even directly comparable.
Paris 0 London 16? Match referred to statisticians for further enquiries.
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But of course the cycling lobby has grabbed hold of it, without telling the whole story.
I don’t understand the Paris thing, as in why use a city in a different country? Surely it would be better to use a large city in this country, where people have the same or similar drive & cycle mentality. Why not Birmingham or Manchester, you don’t seem to hear of that many cyclists getting killed on the roads there. Or is it that they don’t get reported as well, or as often.
Slackbladder:
I don’t understand the Paris thing, as in why use a city in a different country? Surely it would be better to use a large city in this country, where people have the same or similar drive & cycle mentality. Why not Birmingham or Manchester, you don’t seem to hear of that many cyclists getting killed on the roads there. Or is it that they don’t get reported as well, or as often.
Maybe it’s because London has become a magnet for every commy eco warrior in the country with an administration to match.Exactly how many reclaim the streets type demos have there been in Birmingham for example compared to London ?.
Reading his blog, I don’t think he’s so keen on the comparison, but it was jumped upon by cycling groups because of this zero casualty figure and the fact there are restrictions on HGV’s in Paris. They put 2+2 together and got 5.
The blogger, who is a cyclist himself, wanted to find out the truth of the figures, and the truth is the area covered by the stats is quite small. He also says that it’s not clear how popular cycling is in Paris compared to London and how many miles are done by cyclists in Paris compared to London.
I doubt you could use another British city for similar reason I just don’t think cycling has taken off in other UK cities like it does has in London.
