commonrail:
Looks like bagged compost.
Once the curtains are shut,it’ll be squashed in tighter than a nuns chuff.
I’ve wragged hundreds of loads like that…all over Wales,with [zb] all on it.
It don’t move.
Its not about it moving when you’re driving, its about it spilling all over the road if the wagon goes over.
So how does that “rule” work with the brick and block loads then that DVSA are absolutely fine with them just having a net draped over the top? Are you seriously trying to tell me that the net will hold all the bricks and blocks on the bed if the rolls over? Of course it won’t - they’ll be scattered up and down the roads for 200 yards in each direction - something that is unlikely to happen with a curtain sider, irrespective of whether the load inside has been ratchet or roof strapped to within an inch of its life. And don’t tell me the brick and block loads are flush fit because many of them are mixed loads with different heights and gaps.
Iirc I read something when the new regs came out about brick nets and 400 kg but can’t remember what
Every lorry that leaves the glass factories of donny,Barnsley and knottingley will be secured with internals.
Sometimes 1 cross per 2 rows
Sometimes strapped down the side.
Surely easy pickings for vosa.
Oh wait…last time they took on a big company(stobarts)They got dealt a ■■■■ off tablet.
Bet the truck involved in the op is a small operator who doesn’t have the financial clout to take them on.
Humberside police where doing this other day at humberbridge car park. They was posting pics on their twitter showing some insecure loads, and saying driver reported.
Looks like a Euroliner type trailer to me and has a full compliment of side boards. Load looks fine to me, what’s the issue?
Someone with a twitter account needs to tweet them “Presumably all the burglars and rapists in West Midlands have been caught then for you to be bothering with this kind of petty low-level ‘crime’?” or something along those lines.
Why would Cheshire Police be concerning themselves with burglars and rapists 40+ miles away? Don’t they have enough in their own area to keep tabs on?
Looks like a Euroliner type trailer to me and has a full compliment of side boards. Load looks fine to me, what’s the issue?
Someone with a twitter account needs to tweet them “Presumably all the burglars and rapists in West Midlands have been caught then for you to be bothering with this kind of petty low-level ‘crime’?” or something along those lines.
Why would Cheshire Police be concerning themselves with burglars and rapists 40+ miles away? Don’t they have enough in their own area to keep tabs on?
The tweets say West Midlands Motorway Police unit on it or something along those lines. No idea where Cheshire come into it. Just replace “West Midlands” with “Cheshire” if the cap fits, I do not care, the point still stands. It’s pathetic when the default response when you ring 999 for a REAL emergency is a distinctly lacklustre and uninterested “we don’t have any resources/it’s a civil matter sir”. On the extremely rare occasion that they do have some “resources” you’re lucky for them to turn up within the next fortnight, by which point the crims are obviously long gone, along with any evidence. But use some parcel tape to hold a box in place? Well obviously that is the crime of the century because ROAD SAFETY, SMALL CHILDREN and LITTLE FLUFFY KITTENS.
Looks like a Euroliner type trailer to me and has a full compliment of side boards. Load looks fine to me, what’s the issue?
Well, if the pillars are not quite perpendicular and some of the side boards are loose, which they were on a Euroliner I was using a few weeks ago to do a day trunk from Surrey to Pallex, the goods might not be as secure as they should be.
commonrail:
Every lorry that leaves the glass factories of donny,Barnsley and knottingley will be secured with internals.
Sometimes 1 cross per 2 rows
Sometimes strapped down the side.
Surely easy pickings for vosa.
Oh wait…last time they took on a big company(stobarts)They got dealt a [zb] off tablet.
Bet the truck involved in the op is a small operator who doesn’t have the financial clout to take them on.
You mean a load of 52 pallets from ardagh only gets 8 straps per side.Meaning every lift of 4 pallets only gets 1 internal strap but its deemed as secure.Sound like the police and dvsa will soon be hammering alot of drivers and companies.
Ignorant Porkers, if I had been the euroliner driver with all the parcels and webbing I reckon I would have insisted on being taken to Crown Court for a Jury to decide on the matter.
commonrail:
Every lorry that leaves the glass factories of donny,Barnsley and knottingley will be secured with internals.
Sometimes 1 cross per 2 rows
Sometimes strapped down the side.
Surely easy pickings for vosa.
Oh wait…last time they took on a big company(stobarts)They got dealt a [zb] off tablet.
Bet the truck involved in the op is a small operator who doesn’t have the financial clout to take them on.
You mean a load of 52 pallets from ardagh only gets 8 straps per side.Meaning every lift of 4 pallets only gets 1 internal strap but its deemed as secure.Sound like the police and dvsa will soon be hammering alot of drivers and companies.
Exactly this.
These loads DO move…but what can you do?
Xpo drivers brought the union in.
Xpo no longer transport the glass.
Simple answer is to stop using curtain-siders and start using box vans. Even for yards without a dock, a ramp (even a fixed one with a concrete structure) won’t break their bank.
And it is generally safer and easier, not requiring the driver to mingle with the forkie in the manouvering area or struggle with dodgy curtains.
Rjan:
Simple answer is to stop using curtain-siders and start using box vans. Even for yards without a dock, a ramp (even a fixed one with a concrete structure) won’t break their bank.
And it is generally safer and easier, not requiring the driver to mingle with the forkie in the manouvering area or struggle with dodgy curtains.
If it’s the type of load that needs securing properly on a curtain sider then a box trailer isn’t a guaranteed get out.While in fact it can make securing the load in that case more difficult.I’d prefer a tilt or a curtain sider with rope hooks and use ropes/chains/straps rather than rely on the walls of a box trailer to hold anything in that case.
Rjan:
Simple answer is to stop using curtain-siders and start using box vans. Even for yards without a dock, a ramp (even a fixed one with a concrete structure) won’t break their bank.
And it is generally safer and easier, not requiring the driver to mingle with the forkie in the manouvering area or struggle with dodgy curtains.
Spec the curtainsiders properly and load wise it is as safe as a van, or do as Germany does put the onus on the company loading it to ensure it is secure before you leave their yard, plenty of places on the continent will ask for your straps before they start to load and then secure the load for you. Last did curtainsider work to Germany 10 years ago and back then it was a simple case of no straps no load.
Rjan:
Simple answer is to stop using curtain-siders and start using box vans. Even for yards without a dock, a ramp (even a fixed one with a concrete structure) won’t break their bank.
And it is generally safer and easier, not requiring the driver to mingle with the forkie in the manouvering area or struggle with dodgy curtains.
Spec the curtainsiders properly and load wise it is as safe as a van, or do as Germany does put the onus on the company loading it to ensure it is secure before you leave their yard, plenty of places on the continent will ask for your straps before they start to load and then secure the load for you. Last did curtainsider work to Germany 10 years ago and back then it was a simple case of no straps no load.
Agreed. Proper EuroLiners with drop sides and side rails are the way to go. As versatile as any XL sheeted tautliner. But they weigh a little more and cost a bit extra too.
commonrail:
Every lorry that leaves the glass factories of donny,Barnsley and knottingley will be secured with internals.
Sometimes 1 cross per 2 rows
Sometimes strapped down the side.
Surely easy pickings for vosa.
Oh wait…last time they took on a big company(stobarts)They got dealt a [zb] off tablet.
Bet the truck involved in the op is a small operator who doesn’t have the financial clout to take them on.
You mean a load of 52 pallets from ardagh only gets 8 straps per side.Meaning every lift of 4 pallets only gets 1 internal strap but its deemed as secure.Sound like the police and dvsa will soon be hammering alot of drivers and companies.
Yep every load of glass out of Ardagh or even Allied glass only get internals cross strapped through the top 2 pallets of every 4 then down the side so for every 8 pallets you have 2 internal straps holding them in. Been going on like this ever since I’ve carried glass and that’s 11 year. Always said it’s a nice little earner for the DVSA/VOSA but they say that’s how it’s to be strapped. How many glass loads do Malcolm’s pull?
Rjan:
Simple answer is to stop using curtain-siders and start using box vans. Even for yards without a dock, a ramp (even a fixed one with a concrete structure) won’t break their bank.
And it is generally safer and easier, not requiring the driver to mingle with the forkie in the manouvering area or struggle with dodgy curtains.
Spec the curtainsiders properly and load wise it is as safe as a van, or do as Germany does put the onus on the company loading it to ensure it is secure before you leave their yard, plenty of places on the continent will ask for your straps before they start to load and then secure the load for you. Last did curtainsider work to Germany 10 years ago and back then it was a simple case of no straps no load.
Agreed. Proper EuroLiners with drop sides and side rails are the way to go. As versatile as any XL sheeted tautliner. But they weigh a little more and cost a bit extra too.
