Changing start times through week

Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

I don’t know of any legislation that would regulate that, your own contract with the company might, but that’s not “allowed” just agreed

dozy:
Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

■■■■■■■■. They can change it by three hours per day. The law is an ■■■. And those drivers that put up with it are asses…

dozy:
Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

No…your getting mixed up with the"not allowed to start in the same county you finished"rule.

dozy:
Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

As has been pointed out don’t think there is a law against it, but if its a decent company it’ll be on a limit in your contract. Its not something you want to get into or be putting up with, especially if its outwith the reasonable sort of scenario.

dozy:
Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

Not that i recall. You ever done tramping ? :grimacing:

It’s taken longer than expected, but is your ‘mate’ finally trying to get his money’s worth?

the nodding donkey:
It’s taken longer than expected, but is your ‘mate’ finally trying to get his money’s worth?

Who’d have thought this day would come? :open_mouth:

dozy:
Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

No dozy your getting mixed up with you can only do 2X 10 hr drives in a week

Evil8Beezle:

the nodding donkey:
It’s taken longer than expected, but is your ‘mate’ finally trying to get his money’s worth?

Who’d have thought this day would come? :open_mouth:

The saga continues…
Tune in next week, for the next (non) thrilling episode of Dozy

How many times?

  1. Agencies can only alter your start time by a week every two hours. Unless there is an operational reason.

  2. It used to apply to companies with lots of lorries, but they were exempted when it was found to encourage drivers to try to add an extra six minutes per day to the two hour rule by doing 56 mph in 50 areas.

I’m guessing you heard that in a tesco traffic office. It’s the rule they use. You have a 4 hour window around your first start time of the week

Mike-C:

dozy:
Did I read on here once that companies are only allowed too move your start time over a week by 2 hrs , is that plus or minus 2 hrs
Ta

Not that i recall. You ever done tramping ? :grimacing:

I’ve done tramping but not now , but mate does and he’s done 4 am starts Monday - thurs , fri ( today ) they’ve said he can’t start until 8 am , he’s obviously not happy as he’s got a 15 left so could be 23.00 before he gets back , he’s a tramper

peirre:

Evil8Beezle:

the nodding donkey:
It’s taken longer than expected, but is your ‘mate’ finally trying to get his money’s worth?

Who’d have thought this day would come? :open_mouth:

The saga continues…
Tune in next week, for the next (non) thrilling episode of Dozy

Over the years I’ve probably worked with thousands of different people , lots being Lorry drivers , I’m not one of those ignorant type people so I stay in contact with lots of them because there mates , they often ring me or I’ll ring them , they often ask me things and if I don’t know , not sure I’ll ask on here , that’s what mates do , help each other out .
And as for my job is exactly as when I started , 8 hrs a shift ( and that’s only due to bosses instruction too make it last 40 hrs a week ) , the only change is he now doesn’t ask me too do anything other than my trunk run as the penny’s finally dropped , no means no ,
Sorry too disappoint you :angry: :laughing:

Well, once daily/weekly rest requirements have been complied with, then start times are what is required to get the job done, surely?

Our start times vary daily, again as long as the above criteria is met, we start pretty much as we see fit, giving ourselves plenty of time to complete our checks, and load security. We have signed the work force agreement relating to night work, so we start as and when the job dictates. Or have I missed something?

As long as your having your 9’s and 11’s off then you can start at any time legally. A company may have a policy to state otherwise but that’s not the law certainly.

We might start 02.00 on Monday. Tuesday 18.00. Wednesday on a ferry. Thursday midnight. Friday soon as you can to get home.

Joys of Euro work

Rowley010:
As long as your having your 9’s and 11’s off then you can start at any time legally. A company may have a policy to state otherwise but that’s not the law certainly.

This^^^^^^. End of story.

In my old job we had a 3 hr window, where I am now its the same start time every day .

the maoster:

Rowley010:
As long as your having your 9’s and 11’s off then you can start at any time legally. A company may have a policy to state otherwise but that’s not the law certainly.

This^^^^^^. End of story.

We’ve had this one before on TN.

Even notwithstanding that scheduling is compliant with the EU drivers’ hours rules, the law says a company must still ensure that their scheduling does not induce such stress or fatigue as would endanger road safety or impair the driver’s health.

There are lots of ways that a compliant schedule can induce excessive fatigue, but I think during the last discussion of this issue we focussed on the issue of commuting time between home and the workplace for day drivers.

We also touched on the enforcement of this, and I think the general understanding is that under normal circumstances it is for the driver to enforce these rules proactively against the employer, and to decline to work when they are or will be overly fatigued. They are not enforced on paper by the DVSA. If there is a difference of opinion between employer and employee about what is likely to cause excessive fatigue, it would be for a judge to decide.

The only time the authorities are liable to become involved on their own initiative is if an accident occurs owing to fatigue, in which case the employer would not have a defence by showing simply that their scheduling was compliant with the EU hours rules, if the overall schedule would still strike a reasonable person as extreme.