Car driver behaviour not class 1

[rowley010]

So I’m coming up M6 at 3am, a culina truck overtakes. He does robroys pet hate thing of cutting in way too soon before there’s a safe gap. He actually started signalling to move back in when his rear axle was still next to my mirrors.

So as he cut in front I just gave him a flash. Nothing aggressive. Didn’t hold the lights on didn’t blow the horn. Didn’t swerve about flashing. Non of that. Just a flash to try and make him aware he’d cut back too soon.

He then brakes hard in front of me, down to 40 ish. Sits there between 40 and 45. I think ok then I’m not bothering with this so I move to overtake, and as I pass he’s giving me the fingers.

What’s that all about?

HE Was overtaking me
HE cut in too soon
HE then slams his brakes on to make some kind of point about my flash
HE then swearing at me

Really?

I wouldn’t mind so much if I was being a buffoon sat there on my limiter at 0.1mph slower than him not letting him in for 10 miles but I was doing 50mph at the time.

Un ■■■■■■■ believable.

[chester]

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[robroy]

I know what you’re saying mate, I’d want to rip his ■■■■ head off, but we’ve just got to raise above it, safe in the knowledge that we are the better driver…but what is the answer to stopping this type of prick (of which there are many ) from ever getting a licence?

It’s all there in that example, incompetence, lack of awareness of the length of his vehicle, zero consideration, disproportional reactions, aggression, and downright dangerous driving and unprofessionalism…
That ■■■■■■■ and many more like him today who have blagged HGV licences will more than likely go on to seriously injure or kill some poor ■■■■.
So what’s the answer to get these bastds off the road, stricter criteria selection, stricter tests, better training, periodic training,… who knows.
Your thread title says it all, not truckers just car drivers with a Class 1.

Did you have a dashcam by any chance, if so put the footage on here.

Gonna shut it now as I’m starting to sound like Jakethesnake too bloody much.

[robroy]

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And what will that achieve exactly??

[blue_estate]

robroy:

chester:
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And what will that achieve exactly??

Yep Rob , Chester the sage of Bull muck

[whitetruckman]

Main thing to take away from this is get a decent dash can.

[silver_surfer]

Cracks me up when they pull in too soon on an empty motorway. Keep it ship shape if there’s someone behind you waiting but otherwise…

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WhiteTruckMan:
Main thing to take away from this is get a decent dash can.

Ooo I can post it on ginterweb and get my likes up like other dash-cam warriors. Dash cams serve one purpose, to cover your own arse if your involved in an inccident, ,

Yes we’ve got them, and it just sits there doing it’s thing…

What would I have done, just carried on, and thought, another Kellogg’s/Legoland driving licence holder.

[rowley010]

robroy:
I know what you’re saying mate, I’d want to rip his [zb] head off, but we’ve just got to raise above it, safe in the knowledge that we are the better driver…but what is the answer to stopping this type of prick (of which there are many ) from ever getting a licence?

It’s all there in that example, incompetence, lack of awareness of the length of his vehicle, zero consideration, disproportional reactions, aggression, and downright dangerous driving and unprofessionalism…
That [zb] and many more like him today who have blagged HGV licences will more than likely go on to seriously injure or kill some poor [zb].
So what’s the answer to get these bastds off the road, stricter criteria selection, stricter tests, better training, periodic training,… who knows.
Your thread title says it all, not truckers just car drivers with a Class 1.

Did you have a dashcam by any chance, if so put the footage on here.

Gonna shut it now as I’m starting to sound like Jakethesnake too bloody much.

Unfortunately don’t have a personal dash cam. The company vehicles are fitted with them but it would be too much of a pain in the arse to try and get footage off them.

Funny that culina are haulier of the year apparently, which they proudly plaster over their units and trailers. Well driver behaviour like that is certainly not what I’d expect to see from haulier of the year!

[juddian]

Get used to it mate, because the ratio of that type is rising.
I’ve seen some of the most stupid half witted aggressive unskilled driving ever from those wrongly allowed in lorries over the years, and over the last decade it’s increased massively in frequency, vehicles used to bully, seriously dangerous antics.

Some companies will be bothered others won’t, depending on the management there if a complaint was made even without your own video evidence they’d have the relevant vehicle’s dash cam out and see what was going on, braking for no genuine reason like that might be deemed dangerous enough for a final or the sack, where i work that twerp would be out the door the second they viewed their own camera footage and found he brake checked you deliberately with no reason to hit the brakes after overtaking.

[washwipe]

It’s a typical response from today’s drivers, any driver that is, instead of putting their hand up apologising “yes it was my fault, sorry” they have a go at you for being there.

[jakethesnake]

Get used to it mate, because the ratio of that type is rising.
I’ve seen some of the most stupid half witted aggressive unskilled driving ever from those wrongly allowed in lorries over the years, and over the last decade it’s increased massively in frequency, vehicles used to bully, seriously dangerous antics.

If I say anything like that I get told I am a lorry driver hater and that I am making it all up. I was once proud to be a lorry driver but with some of the antics we see now (I rarely see it now TF)
I don’t know how so many on here defend the idiots because it’s obviously none on here.

[jakethesnake]

Washwipe:
It’s a typical response from today’s drivers, any driver that is, instead of putting their hand up apologising “yes it was my fault, sorry” they have a go at you for being there.

Exactly. Agressive in everyway.

[juddian]

jakethesnake:
Get used to it mate, because the ratio of that type is rising.
I’ve seen some of the most stupid half witted aggressive unskilled driving ever from those wrongly allowed in lorries over the years, and over the last decade it’s increased massively in frequency, vehicles used to bully, seriously dangerous antics.

If I say anything like that I get told I am a lorry driver hater and that I am making it all up. I was once proud to be a lorry driver but with some of the antics we see now (I rarely see it now TF)
I don’t know how so many on here defend the idiots because it’s obviously none on here.

Most of the posters on here take an interest in their work, and are actively trying to better themselves, so i doubt the idiots are in fact posting on these pages, quite the opposite in fact, we have a lot of younger drivers on here, some have come and gone, who are articulate and educated, many of them have got themselves into good jobs and many of them have taught me a few valuable tricks via these pages, this place isn’t the home of the bod who brake checked the OP>

The idiots we are talking about arn’t real lorry drivers in any sense of the term and never will be as long as they have the proverbial orifice, they’ve somehow managed to grab a licence and that’s as far as they’re bothered about skilling themselves up, doubtful they would even know about this forum, if they posted at all it would be to troll i imagine.

[robroy]

I encountered a knob in a truck the other day.
I was sat in lane 1 approached another slower moving truck, decided to overtake it.
Checked mirror, signalled in good time, waited, and saw this other truck approaching me from a fair distance sat in lane 2, I got a flash off him (off all of his dozen ■■■■ lights ) I was just about to edge out to start my overtake when I thought, hang on, this guy is coming up a bit fast to let me out, so I hung back, …and sure enough he was warning me to stay in as he obviously didn’t have 2 seconds to spare, and couldn’t be arsed to come of a couple of clicks on his limiter to let me out. .
So I just stayed where I was and consequently got baulked up by the slower moving truck.

Now I know I’m now gonna get the ‘‘Highway code/flash to let you know you are there’’ stuff chucked at me, and I accept that, but truck drivers rightly or wrongly, have done the unwritten rule of flashing each other out to allow overtaking for generations, the ‘done thing’ as most of you will know.
A lesser experienced driver could have come a right cropper.

This new generation of d/heads are just changing things that have worked for years, flashing in, flashing out and all the rest of mutual courtesies displayed to each other by drivers, resulting in an ‘every man for himself’ scenario.

[rowley010]

robroy:
I encountered a knob in a truck the other day.
I was sat in lane 1 approached another slower moving truck, decided to overtake it.
Checked mirror, signalled in good time, waited, and saw this other truck approaching me from a fair distance sat in lane 2, I got a flash off him (off all of his dozen [zb] lights ) I was just about to edge out to start my overtake when I thought, hang on, this guy is coming up a bit fast to let me out, so I hung back, …and sure enough he was warning me to stay in as he obviously didn’t have 2 seconds to spare, and couldn’t be arsed to come of a couple of clicks on his limiter to let me out. .
So I just stayed where I was and consequently got baulked up by the slower moving truck.

Now I know I’m now gonna get the ‘‘Highway code/flash to let you know you are there’’ stuff chucked at me, and I accept that, but truck drivers rightly or wrongly, have done the unwritten rule of flashing each other out to allow overtaking for generations, the ‘done thing’ as most of you will know.
A lesser experienced driver could have come a right cropper.

This new generation of d/heads are just changing things that have worked for years, flashing in, flashing out and all the rest of mutual courtesies displayed to each other by drivers, resulting in an ‘every man for himself’ scenario.

The amount of drivers (probably the majority) would have just pulled out there having seen the flash and then probably had a load of abuse from the prick who like you say doesn’t have a few seconds to spare in his day.

[theuncaringcowboy]

robroy:
I encountered a knob in a truck the other day.
I was sat in lane 1 approached another slower moving truck, decided to overtake it.
Checked mirror, signalled in good time, waited, and saw this other truck approaching me from a fair distance sat in lane 2, I got a flash off him (off all of his dozen [zb] lights ) I was just about to edge out to start my overtake when I thought, hang on, this guy is coming up a bit fast to let me out, so I hung back, …and sure enough he was warning me to stay in as he obviously didn’t have 2 seconds to spare, and couldn’t be arsed to come of a couple of clicks on his limiter to let me out. .
So I just stayed where I was and consequently got baulked up by the slower moving truck.

Now I know I’m now gonna get the ‘‘Highway code/flash to let you know you are there’’ stuff chucked at me, and I accept that, but truck drivers rightly or wrongly, have done the unwritten rule of flashing each other out to allow overtaking for generations, the ‘done thing’ as most of you will know.
A lesser experienced driver could have come a right cropper.

This new generation of d/heads are just changing things that have worked for years, flashing in, flashing out and all the rest of mutual courtesies displayed to each other by drivers, resulting in an ‘every man for himself’ scenario.

So you can’t bear to be held up by the truck in front but it’s perfectly fine for you to hold up the truck passing you, who is clearly going a lot quicker, don’t you have 2 seconds to spare?

If I’m passing a load of slow moving fannies I’ll hold the lights on when one inevitably puts an indicator on to creep past the fud in front doing 52mph at 52.1mph. Probably pointless because half the clowns don’t look in the mirror anyway.

[cgscott]

Cool story bro

[robroy]

TheUncaringCowboy:

robroy:
I encountered a knob in a truck the other day.
I was sat in lane 1 approached another slower moving truck, decided to overtake it.
Checked mirror, signalled in good time, waited, and saw this other truck approaching me from a fair distance sat in lane 2, I got a flash off him (off all of his dozen [zb] lights ) I was just about to edge out to start my overtake when I thought, hang on, this guy is coming up a bit fast to let me out, so I hung back, …and sure enough he was warning me to stay in as he obviously didn’t have 2 seconds to spare, and couldn’t be arsed to come of a couple of clicks on his limiter to let me out. .
So I just stayed where I was and consequently got baulked up by the slower moving truck.

Now I know I’m now gonna get the ‘‘Highway code/flash to let you know you are there’’ stuff chucked at me, and I accept that, but truck drivers rightly or wrongly, have done the unwritten rule of flashing each other out to allow overtaking for generations, the ‘done thing’ as most of you will know.
A lesser experienced driver could have come a right cropper.

This new generation of d/heads are just changing things that have worked for years, flashing in, flashing out and all the rest of mutual courtesies displayed to each other by drivers, resulting in an ‘every man for himself’ scenario.

So you can’t bear to be held up by the truck in front but it’s perfectly fine for you to hold up the truck passing you, who is clearly going a lot quicker, don’t you have 2 seconds to spare?

If I’m passing a load of slow moving fannies I’ll hold the lights on when one inevitably puts an indicator on to creep past the fud in front doing 52mph at 52.1mph. Probably pointless because half the clowns don’t look in the mirror anyway.

Wow mate,
Are you reading a different post to the one wrote, just choosing to interpret it in a certain way to make a point, having a bad morning…or all 3 ?

Where did I say I could not ‘bear to be held up’ exactly of course I had two seconds to spare…, I’m the cool chilled out type guy who will never have a work related heart attack caused by teararsing, nor feeling the need to be sat on the limiter all day, I work and drive at a sensible pace…However, on the other hand I ain’t a ‘slow moving fanny’ either.
If there was the slightest risk of my actions bringing his speed down to a dramatic pace, I would not have signalled my intention to pull out but waited, that’s common sense ain’t it?

It was a routine situation, approach a slower truck, check things are safe in mirror distance wise, and go for it when safe,…a good driver will always flash you out, job done.
(It WAS safe btw, I don’t think for a second I would have encroached on matey’s safety or space If I had just pulled out anyway, he was just coming the '‘Look at me in my big truck, out of me way, let me through’, a right arrogant ■■■■, no need for it… …end of. )

So I would argue the point all day with you on this if I could be arsed.

Maybe you and me are different bud, as I said I ain’t a teararse king, and I’d rather help another driver in however small way, than sit with lights on and/or horns blasting as some do, making a complete ■■■■ of myself to everybody sat watching me.

I really don’t believe I had to explain that …but hey…

[jakethesnake]

Juddian:

jakethesnake:
Get used to it mate, because the ratio of that type is rising.
I’ve seen some of the most stupid half witted aggressive unskilled driving ever from those wrongly allowed in lorries over the years, and over the last decade it’s increased massively in frequency, vehicles used to bully, seriously dangerous antics.

If I say anything like that I get told I am a lorry driver hater and that I am making it all up. I was once proud to be a lorry driver but with some of the antics we see now (I rarely see it now TF)
I don’t know how so many on here defend the idiots because it’s obviously none on here.

Most of the posters on here take an interest in their work, and are actively trying to better themselves, so i doubt the idiots are in fact posting on these pages, quite the opposite in fact, we have a lot of younger drivers on here, some have come and gone, who are articulate and educated, many of them have got themselves into good jobs and many of them have taught me a few valuable tricks via these pages, this place isn’t the home of the bod who brake checked the OP>

The idiots we are talking about arn’t real lorry drivers in any sense of the term and never will be as long as they have the proverbial orifice, they’ve somehow managed to grab a licence and that’s as far as they’re bothered about skilling themselves up, doubtful they would even know about this forum, if they posted at all it would be to troll i imagine.

While I agree with most I am not convinced that all are like that. There are some with attrocious attitudes on here and I have always found people with bad attitude usually transfers to bad driving on the road.
Also being articulate and educated does not always equate to being a good driver.

Better training and far more police presense is one of the ways forward.