As in Southampton for example, the bosses wife asked if either had been done in the past, and in future to refuse their request to search the vehicle or self.
I did say they would probably refuse you access to the terminal, or would they? Never tried, but will next time I am down that way.
Those idiots do seem to go a bit search happy at times, verging on harassment, more than once in a week is taking the ■■■■ I think.
Also since they search you before you go on the terminal, I have told them they are wasting there time, as I haven’t had the chance to pinch any thing 
I have asked them what they are looking for, there reply was offensive weapons to attack other drivers/staff with!!
You can refuse a personal search, but not a cab search as far as I know.
But, yes, in my opinion you’d end up banned from the terminal and possibly out of a job.
I had a barny with an Asian security guard (not being racist) at the Olympic Village when it was being built because he wanted to take my swiss army knife off me as it was banned from site, I told him to do 1, I was a tramper at the time, I permitted him to stand on the steps and look into the cab but not to climb in, he spotted the swiss army knife as I’d just opened a can of fruit in juice with it and he grabbed it stating “these are banned from site, no knives on site” and other such crap. I took it off him and told him he can either refuse the full load or ■■■■ off 
I was tipped but banned from site for future. It never got tested as it was a 1 off delivery.
waynedl:
You can refuse a personal search, but not a cab search as far as I know.But, yes, in my opinion you’d end up banned from the terminal and possibly out of a job.
I had a barny with an Asian security guard (not being racist) at the Olympic Village when it was being built because he wanted to take my swiss army knife off me as it was banned from site, I told him to do 1, I was a tramper at the time, I permitted him to stand on the steps and look into the cab but not to climb in, he spotted the swiss army knife as I’d just opened a can of fruit in juice with it and he grabbed it stating “these are banned from site, no knives on site” and other such crap. I took it off him and told him he can either refuse the full load or [zb] off
I was tipped but banned from site for future. It never got tested as it was a 1 off delivery.
You’re lucky he only looked in the cab. I was going in a couple of times a week and had the stinking sniffer dog in there a couple of times! I don’t mind dogs at all but when it’s jumping all over the bed it ■■■■■■ me right off. Couldn’t risk being banned off site so had to grit my teeth
waynedl:
You can refuse a personal search, but not a cab search as far as I know.But, yes, in my opinion you’d end up banned from the terminal and possibly out of a job.
I had a barny with an Asian security guard (not being racist) at the Olympic Village when it was being built because he wanted to take my swiss army knife off me as it was banned from site, I told him to do 1, I was a tramper at the time, I permitted him to stand on the steps and look into the cab but not to climb in, he spotted the swiss army knife as I’d just opened a can of fruit in juice with it and he grabbed it stating “these are banned from site, no knives on site” and other such crap. I took it off him and told him he can either refuse the full load or [zb] off
I was tipped but banned from site for future. It never got tested as it was a 1 off delivery.
Well I doubt I would be out of a job, but maybe banned off site.
You are liable to a cab search when you enter any premises which you cannot really refuse if that is the Company policy. You can however refuse a search of your person unless a Police Office is present. A couple of places I used to go to, AWE at Aldermaston they used to look in the cab and have a quick look in your bags but never bothered about me. The other place was a precious metal smelting plant in Enfield where again they would have a quick look in the cab and we would be onced over by a scanner.
When I say a quick look in the cab, that’s exactly what it was. It wasn’t a proper search. At the end of the day if they’re sensible in their approach I don’t see a problem and again if you haven’t got anything you shouldn’t…not a problem. I have heard about the over zealous “Jobsworths” in Soton Docks but we come across idiots wherever we go, don’t let it stress you just laugh at them!
Are there really any rules or is it just protocol? I believe they make it up as they go along.
They don’t like being called ‘dibble’ either! 
fredthered:
Are there really any rules or is it just protocol? I believe they make it up as they go along.They don’t like being called ‘dibble’ either!
Can’t answer that as a whole but the two places I mentioned going to did have established rules but then again an Atomic Weapons place and precious metals plant you’d expect something like that. The problem comes I think when you get an idiot boss of an idiot security company telling his staff they have to do searches but they don’t get proper training or instructions and they go on a
so-called power trip.
Some years ago, turned up at an army barracks with a van full of bagged parcels, they wanted to check the back, ok, but wtf would they see without opening 120+ parcels?
Unless they state to you that a condition of entry to the site is a search on exit or photograph taken they can’t do it.
I had this problem with livenation taking a pics of me and searching me when none of my male colleagues were. I took legal advice (I felt harassed) and it comes under the human rights act (may as well use it since its there) the right to privacy. They basically have to suspect your committing a crime to legally be able to photograph or search you on the spot.
Threatening to report them to SIA usually goes along with this bit of info very nicely.
I’ve been in several Sainsbury RDC’s where on exit you have to press a button and wait for either a red or green light - red means they search, green means they don’t. Never had a red though so I don’t know how hard they look. Also spent a week at a B&Q site where everyone leaving the building had to pick a ball from a bag containing 9 white balls and 1 black. Get the black, and it’s a full bag and body search, including latex gloves.
waynedl:
You can refuse a personal search, but not a cab search as far as I know.But, yes, in my opinion you’d end up banned from the terminal and possibly out of a job.
I had a barny with an Asian security guard (not being racist) at the Olympic Village when it was being built because he wanted to take my swiss army knife off me as it was banned from site, I told him to do 1, I was a tramper at the time, I permitted him to stand on the steps and look into the cab but not to climb in, he spotted the swiss army knife as I’d just opened a can of fruit in juice with it and he grabbed it stating “these are banned from site, no knives on site” and other such crap. I took it off him and told him he can either refuse the full load or [zb] off
I was tipped but banned from site for future. It never got tested as it was a 1 off delivery.
Heathrow was a right ballache when we was delivering to Terminal 5 when it was being built. You had to go to some sort of holding/inspection area at the side of the M25 where you had to drive the unit and trailer through an x ray machine and the cab and trailer was fully searched.
Because we was going “airside” the whole cab was stripped of everything ,liquids i.e milk, water, pop, gas, knifes, forks, food, cooker, microwave, batterys, tv remotes, dvd player, laptop (they couldn’t take my tv as it was fitted above the passenger door 
) and stored for you in a locker (that didn’t lock) until you got back. You was then escorted to Heathrow and airside where you was driving through terminals, taxiing areas and the runways all the way to terminal 5.
So a normal tip which may usually take upto an hour actually tookabout 4-5 hour 
Then you was escorted all the way back to the holding area where you retrived all of your personal stuff hopeing that nothing had gone walkies while you were away. An absolute joke in my eyes
Used to go in to olympics 3 or 4 times a day and had to go through the crap procedures.
Had the sniffer dog in one day and it ate the half eaten choclate bar id left on the dash.
Bloke went spare saying not to feed it etc.
Ended up in a big arguement as i said the dog stole it
kr79:
Used to go in to olympics 3 or 4 times a day and had to go through the crap procedures.
Had the sniffer dog in one day and it ate the half eaten choclate bar id left on the dash.
Bloke went spare saying not to feed it etc.
Ended up in a big arguement as i said the dog stole it
hahahah love it
kr79:
Used to go in to olympics 3 or 4 times a day and had to go through the crap procedures.
Had the sniffer dog in one day and it ate the half eaten choclate bar id left on the dash.
Bloke went spare saying not to feed it etc.
Ended up in a big arguement as i said the dog stole it
I hope you were fully compensated 
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They basically have to suspect your committing a crime to legally be able to photograph or search you on the spot.
Threatening to report them to SIA usually goes along with this bit of info very nicely.
They do to search you but they don’t to photograph you. Anyone can be photographed in a public place or if they’re on someone’s property and the property owner wants to
Conor:
10-08:
They basically have to suspect your committing a crime to legally be able to photograph or search you on the spot.
Threatening to report them to SIA usually goes along with this bit of info very nicely.They do to search you but they don’t to photograph you. Anyone can be photographed in a public place or if they’re on someone’s property and the property owner wants to
private person yes as a company no.
10-08:
Unless they state to you that a condition of entry to the site is a search on exit or photograph taken they can’t do it.
I had this problem with livenation taking a pics of me and searching me when none of my male colleagues were. I took legal advice (I felt harassed) and it comes under the human rights act (may as well use it since its there) the right to privacy. They basically have to suspect your committing a crime to legally be able to photograph or search you on the spot.
Threatening to report them to SIA usually goes along with this bit of info very nicely.
SIA?
Possibly Security Industry Authority? That’s what Google tells me anyway.
Sure you can search. Please give me a sign and print for my boss. No need to read it. Its just a formality
It is hereby acknowledged that Driver ■■■ has accepted the demand of the representative of Company yyy to search Driver ■■■ and his vehicle. It is accepted that Company yyy, its employees, agents, representatives, contractors and shareholders, jointly and severally, accept responsibility for any damage, loss or inconvenience of any kind whatsoever, corroborated or uncorroborated, that driver ■■■ deems to have been incurred and it is further accepted that Driver ■■■, personally, will be compensated and indemnified accordingly. failure to pay this compensation will incur interest at the rate of 19% from the date of the search. Any contraband was placed there by the person carrying out the search
Sign
With the country on an almost high alert, with the threat to this country from terrorists, I would almost certainly welcome a search. These guys will stop at nothing to hurt, maim, etc, and also on the cyber networks, so we have to help our security services where we can, and not hinder them. Yes, it is a pain in the arse sometimes, especially when at a lot of places, we are in there day in, day out, and almost on first name terms, but they are doing a job that our main security, police, cannot attend every place.