C2 First agency job

Hi Guys,

well I sorted out my agency registration today, and have my first days tomorrow. I have deliveries of foods (!!) to fast food restaurants in the Chertsey area (coming from Banbury). So the run isn’t too long and there are only supposed to be about 6 drops. £8 per hour isn’t too hot, but for a first day, it’s ok to start collecting instead of spending the pennies. Speaking to the DVLA today, they have apparently already dispatched my new Class II licence, so as soon as that arrives, I am going for my C1 assessment drive - again with Rollright. Once I have that under my belt, tjhe plan is to do a few jobs and THEN try and get a bit more picky over the work. Thank goodness though they didn’t in the end try to foist the furtniture delivery on me - they would have go short shrift if they had :slight_smile:

I will repost back on my day (starting at 4:30 so waking just before 3 :frowning: ) tomorrow.

Good Luck mate, just remember to relax and enjoy it. I found agency work a great way of gaining experience as it was pretty varied and it sets you up for your c&e pretty well

Hi John,
Looks like we are at the same stage with this class 2 driving, so good luck with your job tomorrow.
Re £8 per hour not being too hot, the agency I am with are paying £6 per hour, and this seems to be a fairly standard rate in the west of Scotland. Do rates of pay vary much between regions then?? Even the full time drivers at the place the agency sent me to this week are only on £6.70 per hour.

Al.

Hi Al,

according to my agents, the rate here (Oxon/Bucks border) the rates are £8-10 for class II, and… about the same for class I !!!

The reason is apparently that more of the C2 work is ‘harder’ i.e. multidrop, hence comparable rates to encourage more to do it. There are some choice C1 jobs - I will try and get one of those when I have some C1 under my belt - course I need to get the C1 licence first! lol

Cheers

Good Luck John :slight_smile: . Up at 3 am :open_mouth: I
will have to do nights when I pass :slight_smile: .

You don’t hang about do you :open_mouth: . Good luck John, hope it goes well for you :wink: .

Hi. well done on passing and i hope you enjoy the job if its new to you.
Have been with agencys for 'bout 5 months now. Started off sayingno multidrop please as i know ill struggle with routing and sorting out best order to work etc etc.
Still given that work by the agency though. Some of it is ok and can be completed in a reasonable time and the places your sent will offer advice and help. Usually if its their products that your delivering, e.g. food or drinks, spare parts etc.

Other times theyre not even slightly interested in helping load or find addresses and the amount of work and the requirements of timed drops seems to be ignored when dishing out the work to drivers. Lack of information on delivery notes such as early closing times or long dinner breaks also conspire to stuff the day up for you. This is usually from distribution warehouses that deal in any old stuff. (personally i loathe going to Gefco in Coventry near the airport)) :angry:

Dont worry if you cant complete all your drops and never try to exceed your hours to finish. Just phone the client and tell them your out of time and are coming back.Also make a note of your hours to ensure your paid for the actual time you work., including the time you wait to get loaded or tip.

I myself do not think that a 12 plus hour day is reasonable when a large part of it is spent loading and unloading the lorry myself and waiting on customers to finish breaks or dinners, and having to struggle to make deliverys on time when some customers seem totally disinterested in you when you arrive and all your told is “be with you in a minute” and are then ignored for what seems as long as possible.

Ive done some work in the area you seem to be in and the weight limits / lorry ban is a pain in the proverbial. Dont ignore the signs as you pay the fines. If your sure its a no lorry area dont go there.

paulwall:
(personally i loathe going to Gefco in Coventry near the airport)

I saw this and had to laugh hysterically paul its not just gefco cov thats a shower of [zb] beleive me i have worked on and of for gefco manchester for the last 4 years (now currently back there but working for an owner driver) and they are the kings of almighty [zb] ups, absolute shower of crap but the work is so easy its almost like stealing a living :sunglasses:
Ive left twice but i keep ending up back there as you have to work for a living in other firms :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: but ive now sussed out why gefco is so bad its because its
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nuff said :smiling_imp:

simon

alcraw62:
Hi John,
Looks like we are at the same stage with this class 2 driving, so good luck with your job tomorrow.
Re £8 per hour not being too hot, the agency I am with are paying £6 per hour, and this seems to be a fairly standard rate in the west of Scotland. Do rates of pay vary much between regions then?? Even the full time drivers at the place the agency sent me to this week are only on £6.70 per hour.

Al.

I think it’s normal for Agency drivers to be on a slightly higher rate than f full-time employees.

Here in sunny Northamptonshire I get £9 to £9.50 an hour basic (Time and a half for anything over 8 hours and all day on Saturdays), and (so far) the work has only been simple palletised deliveries and collections at supermarket RDCs and similar. The agency have offered me the chance to do some multi-drop stuff but I’ve resisted the temptation so far…

Well what a day that was. The start was re-arranged for 4am - not a problem. When I got there I was told I was going to Poole, not Chertsey - so bang goes all those pages from multi-map I printed out! Another driver was assigned to sort me out. He showed me the reams of paper work and explained it all to me. Then off to get the truck. Turns out is was an old Man truck with tail lift and refrigerated section. He checked I knew how to do that tail and gave me a couple of tips. Looking inside, he thought the load was a bit dodgy, so we got a couple of empty pallets to stop things moving around so much - and he noticed that there wasn’t a pallet truck on it! SO we got one of those sorted and I was off - leaving at 5am. I had 4 assigned drops, plus an additional plus a pick up on the way home.

I arrived at the first drop - a burger king. The driver had warned me that I would have to reverse down a dead-end along a narrow road with a sharp corner. However, I actually managed to get in the road without realising it was it!! There was no room to turn, so I had to back all the way out, turn around and then back in again. I got the first pallet off and then realised two things…1) There was no way a pallet was going to fit past the car parked at the loading entrance and 2) It was only an ordinary door, then a corridor to the kitchen. Therefore EVERYTHING would have to be hand-balled. So after two pallets, plus four dollys with bread I was knackered. It was then that I realised that they had a pallet of frozen as well. I had a look, and there was no way without unloading half the lorry that I would be able to lift the insulation barrier to get at the pallet, Therefore, the entire pallet had to be handballed from the side door - about 50 boxes, one at a time. I managed to persuade BK that I needed a hand so one of their guys helped - it would have taken another hour by myself.

As I was finishing, my TRansport office rang BK to find if I was there - i had left the mobile in the cab. “Do you know you are late?” “Err yes” “ETA on next drop?” “Dunno, how far is it?” I asked the BK man, and he said 10 mins if you know where it is. “30 minutes” I said.

In fact I got there in just over 10, another BK. I had to drive towards the drive-thru and then turn in the nearly empty car park (thank goodness) and then park up. Fortunately on this drop, i was able to drag pallets right to their back door and they then unloaded them. Even so, I had to re-arrange the truck to get at one of the frozen pallets. As I finished this drop, I was at 4.5 hours driving so had to take 30 mins (15 taken on the way down). Customer services were then on at me to re-arrange the order of the drops. I agreed as it wasn’t too far but pointed out I would have to go out of Poole and then find my way back in again.

I managed to find it, a small pub - but once again, everything was hand-balled. Time was slipping more and more. I then got to the 4th drop. Another pub and everything had to be carted thru some narrow corridors. The landlord offered me a sack truck - there hadn’t been one on the truck :unamused: When I got to do dealing with his split pallet of frozen, I realised that his load for the ‘Red Lion’ was shared with another pub called ’ The red lion’!! Great. SO we had to check product codes and descriptions and check them against the invoice - so that too ages as well.

I finally arrived at my last drop, the landlady was spitting teeth - although not at me. I apologised straight off and was friendly. It turned out that the latest she had ever had a delivery before was 1:30pm…I arrived at 4:40pm!!! It was a small drop and everything on the truck was hers so no sorting out to do. I then headed towards the pickup. I then realised that I was running out of hours. I spoke to my agancy and he said head home 'cos your’e not gonna make it otherwise and he called my client. It took an age to get to the M27 and then there were signs of an accident on the M3. I called again and we decided that I wouldn’t make it. I was going to wait at Sutton Scotney for recovery - in the end I made it to Chievely and parked up.

I had to sit around waiting for a man in a van to arrive. When he did, we swapped and I drove the van back to base and he took the truck. I sorted out paperwork etc and clocked out of the building at…10pm - 18 hours after I arrived :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I got home at 11 and had a curry and went to bed. I turned down work for today cos I am shattered. I feel as though I have the flu as my body aches so much - I will not be working for that particular customer again as apparently it happens all the time. My agent said he drove for them once and one drop took 2 1/2 hours and the paperwork said he should have done another 3 drops!

I had checked my paper work, and the delivery slot for my last drop said 10am-11:15am and I got there just before 5pm!!! Now a more experience driver could have done most aspects of the job quicker - but not THAT much quicker.

Well, my TomTom arrived today, I tested it and it is FAB. Tomorrow I am out doing some duoble manned multi-drop - I hope it is better cos yesterday was miserable. However the driving was ace :smiley:

Update:

I got a call just before going to bed. It has now changed to shunting work in Banbury 2pm-10pm. So at least I know when I will finish! It sounds boring but good experience.

That sounds about like my first run John, I ran out of hours on that one as well :unamused: and had to be collected. Nice read though, glad to see it’s not just me :wink: . I have a sneaking suspicion that driving the van could be thought of as other work though - I’d demand a pickup in future :wink: .

When he did, we swapped and I drove the van back to base and he took the truck. I sorted out paperwork etc and clocked out of the building at…10pm - 18 hours after I arrived :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

don’t forget that in VOSA’s eyes driving the van home still counts as Other Work - an 18hour shift would take a bit of explaining :wink:

Snap Denis, I’d just looked at the hours regs and edited my post :laughing: .

Hi Guys,

did shunting last night (plus some picking and loading - I got to play with about 20 different trucks up to 20 tons!). A lot easier!

I was told, cos the van didn’t have a tacho it was alright. I had been expected to actually be collected. It doesn’t matter though, I think that the shower I worked for are a joke - i won’t be working for them again and have told my agent so. Ridiculous timescales, appaling loading, no sack truck, crap lorry which sounding as though it was falling to bits, no radio, and now perhaps dodgy practices.

Taking the weekend off cos I got family visiting. I don’t know what I am gonna do next week :smiley:

Cheers all!

JayHoe:
Hi Guys,

I was told, cos the van didn’t have a tacho it was alright.

it wouldn’t count towards driving hours but it would count towards overall working time :exclamation:

it wouldn’t count towards driving hours but it would count towards overall working time

I see. It is possible then that there was a misunderstanding - but just as likely sharp practices!

Welcome to the real world

JayHoe:
I see. It is possible then that there was a misunderstanding - but just as likely sharp practices!

It is unlikely that there was a misunderstanding.

JayHoe:
I see. It is possible then that there was a misunderstanding - but just as likely sharp practices!

It’s called Taking Liberties John! :wink:

Seriously - be careful, it’s your licence after all…