Banbury does py a lot better than scotland 
My sister’s hubby works there and gets near on 30K a year! (class 1)
Even when you leave your lorry away from base and drive back to the yard you are classed as working until you clock out,so by doing 18 hours you have gone 3 hours over your maximum daily duty time.whereas if you had maxed out at chieveley you should have either had a night out or someone should have picked you up and driven you back to base.
I had to take my unit for a prep mot on friday afternoon,I took my tacho out at M.A.N they then gave me a courtesy car to drive back to the yard,when I had done all my timesheets,PODs for the week I then wrote my EDD (end of daily duties) on my timesheet and tacho even though I left my truck 1 hour previous. 
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So just to get all this clear,
my 15 hours maximum starts from when I clock on rather than start to drive, it includes my rest times, driving and other work and finishes on clocking off?
Can someone confirm that please (also is that 3 times a week maximum?) I have read the tacho rules regs but it all gets a bit mind numbing.
Cheers
JayHoe:
my 15 hours maximum starts from when I clock on rather than start to drive, it includes my rest times, driving and other work and finishes on clocking off?
100% correct there JayHoe. You are also correct that you can do a 15 hour spread 3 times in a week. Don’t forget that you need to pay-back to yourself the 2 hours rest which you didn’t have, within a fortnight of the short rest happening.
If your weekend off is longer than the minimum at home rest, you will have paid that time back.
On another occaision, if you do a 15hr shift and don’t start work till 11 hrs after you finished, that is still a short rest, with the time owed paid back at the same time. It is still one of your three allowed short rests though.
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simon:
On another occaision, if you do a 15hr shift and don’t start work till 11 hrs after you finished, that is still a short rest, with the time owed paid back at the same time. It is still one of your three allowed short rests though.Good point simon it is 9 or 11 hours rest in that 24 hour period.
i.e if you start at 06.00 monday do a 15 hour day finish at 21.00 (15 hour day )if you then dont start until 08.00 tuesday you cant take this as 11 hours rest as the 24 hour from previous day ends at 06.00 so you have to put it down as 9 hours rest.
You can do a 16 hour split also and have 8 hours daily rest without counting it in your 3 reduced daily rests but I wont confuse you with that one yet.
TIP Save one 15 hour day for a Friday or whenever your last day of the week is,then you have more chance of getting home instead of having to run in on a Saturday
JayHoe:
… my 15 hours maximum starts from when I clock on rather than start to drive, it includes my rest times, driving and other work and finishes on clocking off? …
John, I’m pretty sure I’m right in saying this - someone will correct me if not!
Please remember that other work doesn’t necessarily mean work in the haulage industry and/or even work for the same employer. Basically, if you do any paid work - regardless of its nature or whom it’s for - you need to include the hours spent doing this work in your weekly/fortnightly calculations. It is simply classed as other work in this instance, but will have a bearing on the legal hours you may work in haulage…
I spoke to my agent earlier about tomorrows job. While he was on the phone, I mentioned about the day I ran out of hours and how they had sent a van. He said that it IS illegal, they should have sent two guys i.e. one to drive me back but that most companies would try not to. He also said that if they insisted that was not the case - I should drive the recovering van straight home (i.e. clock myself off) and then take it in the next day!!! Shame he didn’t tell me on the day when I spoke to him.
On another note, I have just got my new Tom Tom Go sat nav. On my tests of it locally it has behaved superbly. I am gonna try it out in anger tomorrow.