Listen mate….word in your ‘‘shell like’’ about the enigmatic and curious individual who is Franglais…
You WON’T win…….he’ll hang on to it until he sickens or bores you to death …..like a Tramp hangs on to a half eaten Gregg’s pie he finds.
Best just to let him think he’s .‘won’‘ and make his day.
I find that a lot easier.
Let me explain then.
I said that a representative sample needs to be taken.
If your election pollsters stand outside the Henley Bowls Club on a Sunday lunchtime, they might get a different result than if they stood outside the Orgreave pit gates early Monday morning.
There is not enough to show the data taken is being taken in a representative way.
No one I can find says that it is a random sample, nor a representative sample. Just that it is incomplete.
Quote: ", “High levels of missing ethnicity data limit the ability to provide conclusive results”
Sampling is easy to get wrong.
Assuming the missing data is the same as the given data, is an easy way to get things wrong.
So let me explain. Here we have last years masses of data on prison inmates with amongst other stats nationality and ethnicity of inmates.
I rest my case.
So when you said that some data was not being published…you are now saying that is was being published…and here it is.
FFS, I have said all along that the stats are held by government regarding amongst other criteria nationality and ethnicity of inmates.
What I have also said all along is that the government, due to “sensitive information”, will not publish figures linking crimes to the likes of nationality and ethnicity of the perpetrators.
You continue to make yourself appear rather silly and obstinate.
You repeatedly assert that. You repeatedly say those data exist.
You have not shown it anywhere.
Some data exists about ethnicity and race and religion. Data exists about crimes and sentences.
The two sets are not the same.
The gov says they do have the information to linking and correlating race/religion/ethnicity to crimes. They say it is not available.
The link you gave does not do that.
It should be possible to make studies to link and correlate data, agreed…just as Jenrick has called for…as he called for, because it does not exist.
Yes you have. And I have quoted sources that the info is incomplete.
What are your sources then?
The link you gave shows race/religion/ethnicity of the prison population. It does not correlate it with crimes committed, which is what you seem to be asking for. .
Your’e an idiot, nationality / ethnicity of inmates known by government as shown in the pages of docs I posted. Crimes committed by inmates known by government.
Government will not publish the link between all nationalities / ethnicity and their crimes due to “sensitive information”.
Yes. At least partly true.
But the that is two different sets of data.
There is no data linking the two that you have shown. Just your repeated assertions that the Gov will not publish it.
I can list the number of people wearing black t-shirts in a room.
I can list the number of people smoking in a room.
I cannot reasonably say how many of those wearing black t-shirts are also smoking.
So once again, the government do not publish a breakdown of crimes committed on the basis of nationality or ethnicity……..FACT (that for your benefit means there are none)
You have been proven to be wrong in your assertion that government do not publish substantial details of inmates nationality and ethnicity……..FACT (that for your benefit means they do)
You carry on making a complete idiot of yourself……..FACT (that for your benefit means you appear to be an idiot)
You should’ve rested your case there. Anymore to and fro is just a waste of bandwidth.
At the risk of repeating myself, there’s none so blind as those who won’t see
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I think my advice was the best, given past experience.
True.
Because that data does exist.
That is why Jenrick wants it collected…because it does not exist.
Get it?
No. I never said that no ethnicity/racial data was published.
I have said, that data in incomplete. I have given sources for that.
I may well be an idiot. I am after all trying to hold a conversation with you.
But I am not so idiotic ts o believe that writing FACT in capitals is anything other than idiotic move by an idiotic, idiot from idiotville.
But, being an idiot, I will try again.
John looks into a room. There are 100 people and he counts 50 wearing black t-shirts.
Jill looks into the same room and counts the same 100 people and notes that 50 are women.
Do you know how many women are wearing black t-shirts?
Think this conversation duration and post count even outweighs my tedious exchanges with him
Is this the Trucknet Record.
Who will get the last word and bore the arse off the other one …….we all know the answer.
I know perfectly well what I am talking about, I couldn’t give a monkeys what Jenrick is on about…..FACT
And here it is again for your benefit, you got it?……… complete……FACTS
Trying but making an idiot of yourself……FACT
There ya go, I couldn’t put it any better than that………FACT
I’m sure he will, he can go away feeling all warm and fuzzy believing he is right even when he is wrong!
I refer you to my analogy.
Two sets of data. But not available as a correlated whole. ie incomplete.
Yep……..FACT.
You know where you can stick your (4n4l)ogy………FACT.
Both sets of data, (FACTS) are held by government, ie crimes committed by whom and by which nationality or ethnicity. The FACT no government publishes the link with types of crimes committed by which nationality or ethnicity as a percentage (sensitive information) makes no difference FACTS are, you guessed it FACTS……FACT
So where is that?
Why did Jenrick who was Minister not see it and publish it? Why is he calling for it to be made?
There is some published data of both types your describe. But that is not in one set.
It is not one set showing crime and race/ethnicity of guilty.
No one, so far as I can see, has tied the data into one set. S
You showing disparate sets does not mean that there must be a “hidden” full set somewhere.
You are sounding like a conspiracy theorist believing that “they know everything but are hiding it”.
If it was there would it still be “a secret”? Would no one have shown it? Or said I" have seen it"?
Is there not a single clerk, prison officer, copper, home office worker, minister, who would let it out of the bag?
Two sets of data…but nothing to make them into one correlated set.