That’s the thing though…there are people out there who actually believe all that type of b/s without trying to at least verify or refute it.
Propaganda is a useful tool out there as well as the people who are susceptible to it.
Then you get a biased media, in this case the good old BBC who go on to report it as fact, which takes it further.
As I said, best to listen to both sides of the coin instead of believing what you want to hear…on both sides of the coin btw.
The residents of Gaza must actually be the healthiest people on earth given that every frigging building is a hospital!
They should have dropped the atomic bomb on the whole of Germany
Pity it wasn’t ready in time, they would have done the world a favour
People have short memories of what they did and not only in regards to jews
thing is though they keep using the same people and video clips for different attacks. Clearly they are dubbing the appropriate info in im not suggesting as others might that they are prerecorded all though you can bet that will be their argument against it. These loonies lap it up they dont think hang on a minuet that doctor that is claiming she is treating people from such and such an attack is wearing the exact same clothes with the exact same marks on it as the last one days or weeks earlier.
this is too funny a days discussion on how evil israel is for “kidnapping” greta and she has been released less than 24 hours later. Mean while in our own country people are dying in jail for hurty words
They (Isreal) even gave her a sandwich.
if anyone wants further proof of what is realy happening
“If you see this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped in international waters by Israeli occupational forces or forces that support Israel,” Thunberg, 22, said in a video released by the FCC, filmed before the vessel was captured.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/freedom-flotilla-coalition-says-alarm-sounded-its-gaza-bound-ship-2025-06-08/
convenient that how did they jknow they were going to be captured were they smuggling things they shouldnt of been or is it more anti israeli bs we make sure we are caught then we can cry kidnap
It’s nothing like the issue over the status of Northern Ireland.
It’s an Iranian etc state sponsored and backed attack on Israel.
With the strategic aim of taking over the strategically important Gaza and Golan, as part of the wider aim of wiping Israel off the map.Just like Judeah before it.
That has never been a motivation of either side in Ireland.
The most recent attack, that caused this, involving the typical massacre of Israelis, by an organised assault by an Iranian backed and possibly manned paramilitary force.
Both Bloody Sundays would have been far more Bloody, if the IRA continuation faction, had carried out exactly the same type of attacks on the mainland here, as we saw and have seen carried out by HAMAS etc in Israel against Israelis.
But with a justifiably vengeful Brit Conscript Army.Let alone if those attacks were backed by Soviet Socialism.
Attacks on Israel, which are just a continuation of the Socialist backed wars against Israel of 1967 and 1973, by other means, to the same end.
Iran etc backed HAMAS etc is more than one murderer and it was more than one murderer that carried out the attack and massacre which crossed the Israeli’s line for tolerance.
Israel is in, an albeit asymmetric, war for its survival just like 1967 and '73.
A total war against forces and a population dedicated to its destruction.
Just like Bomber Command’s aircrews and armourers rightly saw those at the wrong end of a Lancaster’s load.
Harris and Bomber Command were under no rules of engagement regarding military targets only.
But they were under pressure from the our civilian population to give back with interest what they’d taken.
The Lanc was the tool that gave them the ability to do it.War isn’t a civilised debate especially the type of total war which the Germans Socialist Workers Party kicked off.
You never know the human instinct for revenge until it’s your family at the receiving end of a German bomb or V1 or V2 and their dismembered bodies having to be taken out of the rubble assuming there’s anything left to take out.
I’ve always said the 2t Cookie should have been configured as a parachute mine in that regard.Who needs a fire storm and who needs Churchill’s two faced Tory bs.Harris, like Dowding, was better and worth more than any Politician.Bomber Command’s losses could have been a lot less if they’d been given a larger fit for purpose Mosquito night fighter escort force.
According to the idf, but independent journalists are not allowed into Gaza.
about that bridge… its 1/2 a million or best offer
If the truth be told, they wanted it and they got it
Be careful what you wish for
Trumps resort is coming, he never misses a trick, they got what they deserved
What evidence do you have that the bombing of Dresden was at the behest of a vengeful British public? The Harris clip you posted was from June 1942, almost 3 years before the Dresden raid. Germany by that time was on its knees, Dresden was virtually undefended as there was next to none military infrastructure there. It was done partly as a sop to Stalin and as a boost to the Harris belief that killing lots of innocent civilians would be more destructive to the German cause than destroying factories that could be rebuilt. It was a war crime by any definition but as the history of any conflict is always written by the victors it’s airbrushed out of most narratives. As will be the actions of the Israeli government in relation to what’s happening now in Gaza.
Israel also backed Hamas at one time.
It supported it to oust out the PLO.
Now Israel is backing other criminal groups to try and oust Hamas. It is a very convoluted situation and evolves and twists over time.
The old adage “My enemies enemy, is my friend” is proven time and again to fall down. It was used as a tactic in many theatres by the UK, USA, and many others but often proved only a short term bodge.
That is true enough, but in Israel Netanyahu may not prove to be “the victor”.
What is “victory” in this case anyway?
Currently more Israelis are against him than for him. No one (almost no one) internationally likes Hamas, but that does not mean they are all in favour of the increasing extreme methods used by Netanyahu.
There is often a tendency for a country to unite in the face of a common enemy, but if it was briefly there, it has away.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1482429/israel-public-approval-rating-of-benjamin-netanyahu/
Some of Israeli press supports the current right wing gov, but some of it doesn’t.
B/S ? You are calling reports B/S.
Why? What do you know that shows those reports to be false?
Tell us what is wrong with them.
Multiple reports on the same alleged incidents from different countries, and Drs from the UK who are in Gaza, are more credible IMHO, than reports from the IDF who have banned independent reporters from the area.
Ref your mate who used to work with the IDF: as honest as he is, his info will come from…the IDF…so not an independent source.
Remember the “vehicles without headlights or signals” that were fired on? And later a video from one of the dead showed lights and flashing beacons?
Stuff happens in war. Mistakes are made.
But some actions are not honest errors but are criminal acts.
Stand up for troops who make mistakes when under fire, but do not allow the shooting of unarmed civilians by trigger happy morons.
Professional military are not infallible but they should be held to obey basic humanitary laws.
So first you accuse me of taking the word of politicians (although you could not be more wrong) and believing certain media, then you question why I do not believe propaganda which panders to the lefty agenda…you can’t have it both ways mate.
Why are certain events that are beliieved by you accurate, and others contrary are not then?
As I said before, listen to both sides and decide what you think is right…simple as that.
Exactly…in a nutshell, and what I have been trying to put across to you from the start.
Did he??
afair without looking back …I did not actually say he did, I said he may well have done, and maybe not allowed to tell me if he did…just to clarify.
umm the fact that they keep having to recant them as i said many times…
how many hospitals are in gaza and the west bank? no idea?? let me help you… 89… 54 in the west bank and the rest (35) in gaza.
How many beds are across those hospitals in total??? 7,296.
so apparently they are building hospitals quicker than the chinese are building coal fired power stations while being blown to smithereens and starving not to mention the 10’s of thousands of people that are supposed to of been injured or killed which would equate to more than 2 members of staff to a patient. Or look at it sensibly and realise its propaganda.
all with the same videos for different supposed attacks. doctors with the same blood splatter on their scrubs or the same lock of hair coming out from under their surgical caps with the same victims with the same injuries. funny that huh.
If they really are british doctors then what are they doing there I thought they were shouting they were under paid and under staffed.
did you watch the video in your link… the only vehicle that was fired on didnt have flashing lights. Then when some arabs turned up to help them they were fired upon so whats the problem?
As I said, if multiple sources from UK, US, Israeli, and other sites, and Drs in situ all say that Israel is launching attacks against unarmed civilians, and hospitals, that seems to me to be as good info as we can expect.
That is my reasoning. So, why do you say B/S ?
Fair enough.
Since we are not sure whether he did or didn’t have any inside info? Let’s forget him.
Yes it does. Some of that stuff is unfortunately going to happen.
But not all stuff is unavoidable.
All events should be investigated so that the competent and honourable servicemen and women are exonerated, and the incompetents are disciplined. In the professional military standards are expected to be upheld. Wearing a uniform is not an excuse to be a criminal.